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GirlWritesWhat on “The Necessity of Domestic Violence”: “I don’t really find too much [that’s] seriously ethically questionable.”

Yesterday, we took a look at Ferdinand Bardamu’s manosphere manifesto “The Necessity of Domestic Violence,” a thoroughly despicable piece of writing that concludes:

Women should be terrorized by their men; it’s the only thing that makes them behave better than chimps.

I decided to take a look at Bardamu’s post yesterday after running across a discussion of it in Reddit’s new FeMRA subreddit, a forum ostensibly devoted to what “women can do to advance men’s rights as women.” It’s a strange little subreddit, started by a man and dominated by some of Reddit’s most unsavory MaleMRAs, some of them banned in the regular Men’s Rights subreddit.

Recently one of the most unsavory of the bunch, calling himself JeremiahGuy this time, posted a link to Bardamu’s domestic violence manifesto, which he hosts on his website. Jeremiah naturally used the discussion as an excuse to post more apologias for domestic “discipline” along the lines of the quote from him I featured yesterday.

But I was a little surprised to see GirlWritesWhat, the blabby FeMRA video blogger who’s captured the hearts of Reddit’s Men’s Rights crowd, step into the conversation with something of a defense of Bardamu’s noxious views. After reading Bardamu’s manifesto – the one advocating that men “terrorize” their women to make them behave – GWW blithely concluded:

I don’t really find too much in the article that strikes me as seriously ethically questionable.

Have I taken that remark out of context? Yes. In context, it’s worse. Here’s the entire quote from her, and a further clarification of her position.

She wasn’t the only one in the discussion to get upvotes for suggesting that men slapping women around from time to time isn’t really such a big deal. MaunaLoona (a MaleMRA) wrote:

Lots of MRAs like to pretend that they care about male victims of domestic violence. But the Men’s Rights movement hasn’t done shit for them. And here, I think, is why: too many MRAs are less interested in helping male victims of domestic violence than they are in providing excuses and justifications for male abusers.

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Amused
12 years ago

No use, Lawgirl has already climbed into his Bentley and is currently on the way to the country chateau.

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

Reading through this thread, I believe I am missing something.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
12 years ago

Hmm. Should’ve gone for something a little better than ‘”waste you have plunged yourself into.”

Hey ho, it’s not like I’m claiming my Insult Practice is high art.

Snowy
Snowy
12 years ago

Your brain?

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

I have a keylogger on his webhost’s server

Sure you do, Dr. Lawyer Shareholder Hacker.

jumbofish
jumbofish
12 years ago

@ buttpole

Some troll showed up supporting girlwrites what and it ended up being an old troll named pell who makes up a bunch of weird things and keeps sockpuppeting after being banned numerous times. Now we are making fun of him. 😀

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

Hey Pell, if you have so much control over David’s server, why’d you have to make a sockpuppet to get around a ban?

I feel a little ridiculous even questioning him now. This is like when someone shows you a rock, and claims it’s a pony. And you start explaining how it’s not as large as a pony, and it doesn’t have hair like a pony, and getting all detailed when for fuck’s sake everyone fucking knows it’s not a pony.

Reynardine
Reynardine
12 years ago

Ah, well, Lawgirl/Dr. Pell/other, this is for you:

I was born about ten thousand years ago
And there isn’t a damn thing that I don’t know:
I saw Peter, Paul, and Moses
Playing ring-around-the-roses
And I’ll whup the guy who says it isn’t so!

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

I’m guessing Dr. Lawpell’s keylogger caught David typing “ahaha! they will never suspect that I actually have nowhere near 5 million pageviews!” into a draft and hitting control-v over and over again because that’s the only way that claim makes any sense to me.

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

Jumbofish, here is a moth for you. It’s even fat.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/5078539468_6a4f2e3c79.jpg

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
12 years ago

… Wait, we have rules about personal attacks, don’t we? I don’t take what I say too seriously, but while it was in response to Lawgirl gettin’ personal, I kind of escalated. A lot.

Have I fucked up?

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

Ahem. Notwithstanding, I do not agree with the gist of the views espoused in the quoted material; nonetheless, I see no reason to believe it is representative of the Movement.

clairedammit
clairedammit
12 years ago

Oh, goody, Mr. Chortles is going to tell us David is cherry picking again.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@Nobinayamu

Nawww. They’re the jags that get kicked out of parties and then try to get back in wearing a fake mustache.

jumbofish
jumbofish
12 years ago

@claire
Awww so cute I want fat moth!

@morkais
I am sure you are fine morkais, I don’t recall you saying anything that bad.

cloudiah
12 years ago

Ahem. Notwithstanding, I do not agree with the gist of the views espoused in the quoted material; nonetheless, I see no reason to believe it is representative of the Movement.

Creepy Steele dude, you are seriously the worst writer in the world.

Sharculese
12 years ago

Ahem. Notwithstanding, I do not agree with the gist of the views espoused in the quoted material; nonetheless, I see no reason to believe it is representative of the Movement.

pretentious diction, sad excuses? that’s our mikey!

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
12 years ago

Check the end of last page and the two paragraphs of overblown insultin’…

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

Ahem. Notwithstanding, I do not agree with the gist of the views espoused in the quoted material; nonetheless, I see no reason to believe it is representative of the Movement.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! And Steele swoops in to bring some much needed levity to the thread!

Sharculese
12 years ago

mikey, the mrm loves gww and doesnt even give a fuck about you, how can you say that she’s not representative? do you know nothing about the sad little grievance cult you’ve glommed on to?

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

Ahem. Notwithstanding, I do not agree with the gist of the views espoused in the quoted material; nonetheless, I see no reason to believe it is representative of the Movement.

Are you really this starved for attention, Steele? What happened, your supervisor didn’t give you that raise she hinted at last week when you worked a whole nine hour day last week?

We get it, you disapprove of domestic violence and you’re going to pretend that no members of the MRM advocate it. Despite all evidence to the contrary. Can we just skip all of the “Excuse me’s” and “jester’s fools” and the rest of the bullshit?

Maybe you could take your lady to the movies or something.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

I see no reason to believe it is representative of the Movement.

Yeah, blinders’ll do that to ya.

Anathema
Anathema
12 years ago

@ Lawgirl,
So you’re a bilingual Doctor Lawyer and a major shareholder?

What will you be telling us next? That you’re an inventor whose slept with at least three hundred women. And you are totally 55 years old and you can totally prove this because you have a picture of yourself from thirty years ago Montgomery Cliff from around sixty years ago. (But he’s totally your Mom’s uncle and he looks just like you, so really, it’s a mistake anyone could make.)

fembot
12 years ago

Can someone give me some background on Pell?

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

Sharculese – I am a fan of GirlWritesWhat. I have found most of her videos to be thoughtful and thought-provoking. I disagree with her here, in an instance of what seems, to me, an unfortunate error of judgment; I do not disown her, merely her cherry-picked words; in this particular instance.

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