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Hey, MRAs: If you don’t want people to associate you with hatred, don’t associate yourself with hate groups

MRAs: digging their own hole.

Here’s a bit of advice for Men’s Rights redditors and MRAs in general: if you don’t want people to associate the Men’s Rights movement with hatred, you should probably not associate yourselves with hate groups.

Yesterday, a fellow called heiligenschein posted a link in the Men’s Rights subreddit to a relatively new subreddit called simply SPLC, a subreddit set up by enemies of the Southern Poverty Law Center and devoted to, as heiligenschein put it, “compiling the numerous criticisms of the [SPLC].” As he explained in a comment:

That’s a somewhat odd criticism for heiligenschein, one of the moderators of the SPLC subreddit, to make. If you look at the front page of this subreddit, you’ll discover that he and his pals are already doing a fine job of associating themselves with “neo nazi nutters” all by themselves.

If you scroll through the links, you’ll notice that Heiligenschein has posted links to several different articles from VDare.com, which the SPLC describes as an “anti-immigration hate website” which “regularly publishes articles by prominent white nationalists, race scientists and anti-Semites.” Note to MRAs: if you’re disinclined to take the word of the SPLC on anything, all you need to do to get a sense of VDare’s genteel racism is to do a search on the site for, well, the word “racism,” or “immigrant.” Or you can read VDare founder Peter Brimelow’s repulsive victim-blaming post on the “root causes” of the Sikh temple murders in Wisconsin.

Heiligenschein  also links to the virulently anti-immigrant American Patrol Report and a Confederacy-loving group called the Georgia Heritage Council; a quick glance at either group’s website will reveal what sort of organizations these are. He also links to a pretty hateful site called A Voice for Men, which some of you may have heard of already.

But the connection to the racist far-right goes beyond a couple of links. The five other moderators of the r/splc subreddit – mayonesa, dvance, Octuple, salsaverde, warkin – are also the moderators of reddit’s race-obsessed “new right” subreddit. Some of the submissions in that subreddit at the moment:

18% of marriages by Chinese and Japanese Americans are to Jews. Thoughts?

The poison of multiculturalism

USA Olympic athlete waves Mex flag: propaganda-bearing parasite prole being used as an infectious agent by the master parasite class?

The not-so-fab five also moderate a smaller subreddit called “alternative right,” a dog-whistle term amongst the far right for (pseudo) intellectual racism and so-called “human biological diversity.” Some of the submissions there, all of them submitted by moderator Mayonesa:

Emo neckbeards having hategasm over pro-white flyer

“I believe Europe to be the ‘white man’s country’. If they don’t want non-whites among them, I think it’s fair.”

Diversity perversity: Behind multicultural push is effort to degrade American culture

The West has been seriously damaged by Communist successes at memetic subversion.

The five run at least two more subreddits devoted to this kind of crap.

Just so you know, MRAs, these are the sort of people you end up hanging out with once you join the SPLC anti-fan club.

Naturally, the handful of comments I found in the r/mensrights discussion on the subject pointing out that the r/splc moderators were a bunch of race-obsessed far-right extremists — see here, here, and here —  all got downvotes from the regulars there.

You’re digging your own hole here, MRAs.

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hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Aw, Tropes thinks it’s coming here with Earth-shattering new info. Sorry, little troll, you’re not.

MBSD
MBSD
11 years ago

eline, I suppose calling MRA’s a hate group isn’t a tired old feminist tactic?

clairedammit
clairedammit
11 years ago

You suppose correctly, MBSD, it isn’t. Thanks for playing!

Now this tired old feminist is off to bed.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Thread necromancy and projection, on the other hand, are definitely tired old MRA tactics.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
11 years ago

Why do MRAs want to be associated with hate groups?

Wow, old thread. I miss sharkules.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Owly rabbitting about Marxism being anti-white European Christian males is kinda precious. At least, I suspect Karl and Friederich might find three out of the four amusing.

pecunium
pecunium
11 years ago

What always amuses me in a case of necromancy like this is that they aren’t saying anything really relevant to the topic. It makes them look afraid of actually having to interact with a feminist.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

If they really were the big, bad MRAs they think they are, they’d come into a recent thread and try to play there.

Cowards.

aworldanonymous
11 years ago

Looking back over this thread is making me realize how active I used to be on the comments here, I think I’m gonna start doing that again.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

aworld – yay! Be great to see you back again. 🙂

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

What is it WITH the thread necromancers lately? Eesh.

PMA
PMA
11 years ago

People aren’t MRA’s just because they disagree with you. Seriously you’re how old 50+ and you still don’t get that?

matt
11 years ago

“NOTE TO MRA TRYING TO POST HERE: I’m not going to let your comments through”

Good ole’ censorship. If you can’t debate using truth and reason, silencing someone will do just fine.

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore.” ~ J Briant

I’m sure this post will be removed, most likely dismissed as “hate speech” without any explanation.

I believe in free speech. But that’s just me. You are entitled to your own opinion.

Cheers

aworldanonymous
11 years ago

Matt, you are a fucking moron, moderation isn’t about censorship, it’s about keeping ignorant bullshit like what you’re spewing out of places where it doesn’t belong. If you want to go whine about how the vast fempirial conspiracy is censoring you, go back to reddit, you’ll be better recieved there.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: Matt

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore.” ~ J Briant

“HAI I LIKE DINOSAURS DID YOU KNOW DINOSAURS LIVED IN HUMAN TIMES AND WE RODE THEM AND FED THEM SNICKERS AND AND AND–”

“Dude, shut up. What the hell.”

“YOU ONLY TRY TO SILENCE ME BECAUSE I’M RIGHT!”

Seriously, what a shitass quote.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Hey, dumbass Matt – censorship is about governments limiting what can be said. It, and free speech, are not about you getting to blather on a privately owned website if the owner doesn’t want you to.

pecunium
11 years ago

matt: Good ole’ censorship. If you can’t debate using truth and reason, silencing someone will do just fine.

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore.” ~ J Briant

I’m sure this post will be removed, most likely dismissed as “hate speech” without any explanation.

I believe in free speech. But that’s just me. You are entitled to your own opinion.

Cheers

Good old self-valorising rubbish.

1: This isn’t the gov’t. No one is required to allow any asshole who wants to be an ass to be an ass in their presence.

2: There isn’t any content in that statement of yours. Really. All it says is you wish assholes were allowed to stink up the place.

3: You were allowed to say it. Going to apologise for being an asshole?

4: Not all opinions are of equal validity. Some are just plain wrong. Giving them equal time is why people think the Post Office is non-competitive (fact is, that were the post office allowed to run its pension like the rest of the Gov’t [which it isn’t], they would be about 1.5 billion in the black. If they were allowed to run their pensions like fedEX, it would be more like 2 billion).

5: Dave allows a lot of wrong to post here, so you don’t have any legs to stand on. Neither moral, nor logical, nor even in terms of political science, can you honestly say Dave doesn’t give the other side a far chance to defend itself.

So why are you lying?

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Because he’s an MRA and they wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped ’em with a fish?

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
11 years ago

I love it when people quote mine other people and then go on about the nobility of free discourse. Fucking amazing.

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

Wow, Matt believes in free speech everyone…but what does that have to do with basic moderation policies? Going for deep with the Briant comment? It didn’t work. Try Kafka next time. Meanwhile, PMA thinks he’s getting David’s goat by suggesting he’s a 50 -something-year-old. You guys are wildly ageist as you are sexist.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

These guys are idiots. Hey, Matt–do you feel stupid? You should.

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
11 years ago

Perhaps he should add an e, so he’d be Matte, as in Dull.

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