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Reddit Island Redux, or, The Possibly True Saga of Current Island

Dudes, try making a Lego island first, see how that goes.

You remember Reddit Island, right? The utterly serious, unintentionally hilarious project in which a bunch of Redditors attempt to set up a Reddity miniature utopia on some remote island somewhere? They are still trying to find an island, and apparently that process is … not going so swimmingly.

As Adrian Chen of Gawker notes in a nice long piece on the project, a fortysomething IT guy from Virginia names Mark Wells has been telling prospective Reddit Islanders that he may have found the perfect place for them:

Wells, who uses the handle Citizenpolitician, explained in a series of increasingly breathless posts on Reddit Island that he’d been scoping out a tiny tropical splotch called Current Island. Just off the coast of Bahamian island of Eluthera, Current is sparsely inhabited, and could be a possible option for their settlement. He’d cold-called members of the local government about the possibility of having a few hundred internet nerds settle Current Island. And he had been met with a very promising response.

Or so Wells said. Trouble is — SPOILER ALERT — Chen himself got in touch with Theo Neilly, the Bahamian Member of Parlliament who Wells had said was “very interested” in the Reddit Island project. And Neilly had a rather different story to tell Chen:

Neilly was more than a little surprised when I told him this. He’d never spoken with or even received an email from Wells, he said. He had heard word of Reddit Island, but only because an acquaintance Wells had actually contacted forwarded him the email. … [E]veryone in Eluthera I spoke to was eager to distance themselves and anyone they knew from him the Reddit Island idea.

D’oh!

Wella, for his part, claims that Chen has mucked up a good thing by actually trying to check to see if anything Wells was saying was true.

When Chen contacted the Bahamians, after being asked not to be involved since we were at a delicate time trying to start a process of negotiations, his contact to the Bahamians, making the relationship public, removed all opportunity for any further communication with the Bahamians and I am afraid now that he has gone to the extent of mentioning them in his article, will suffer political fall out because of this. THis is extremely poor journalism and unfortunate not just for us but for those that wanted to find out more about what we had to offer and what could come of that.

This also puts us in a difficult situation because any further communications with other land owners and government representatives in other countries could become publicly abused as this relationship did and end all hopes for negotiating in good faith with those people. It means that going further will be difficult if we are to maintain transparency and be open to the group here because people like Chen will use it to distort and dismantle those efforts.

So, back to the drawing board, I guess. (The whole discussion of Chen’s article in the Reddit Island subreddit is hilarious, actually.)

Let me make a suggestion, guys: Don’t try to go it alone! Basically, what you’re talking about is forming a tiny civilization that will be essentially a bunch of dudes. In the past, you guys have treated the “sausage party” aspect of the project as a liability.

Instead, you should embrace it as a selling point. Team up with some of the fellas over in the Men’s Rights subreddit; many of them seem not to be fans of women at all.

Heck, some of the guys there are ALREADY TALKING ABOUT GETTING AN ISLAND:

MRA Island! Make it a reality.

In related news, a number of years back a bunch of Something Awful goons launched a similar island project. It involved an actual tropical  island and everything. It seems to have fallen apart; it’s not clear (since I haven’t actually read anything about it beyond that blog post I linked)  if there was any cannibalism involved.

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Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

To be clear, I’m not a guy. I have also experienced lots of privileges as a woman

The list of privileges given to women, on the basis of being women, is vanishingly short, and is typically irrelevant. Free drinks on wednesday night at like 2 bars (In the town area I grew up in) doesn’t really stack up compared to not being sexually harrassed in bars, f’rex.

There is no “male privilege” any longer here in the white western world.

How did you connect to our internet from your alternate dimension?

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

It’s much more my speed regarding lack of bullying

In that it is perfectly fine with bullying? Because Reddittors will dox the shit out of people for the most inane shit.

I hate that there’s no middle ground- no room for people who think that everybody should have equal rights, but think the idea of ‘male privilege’ or ‘white privilege’ is embarrassing bullshit.

I have no sympathy for people who compromise on the matter of reality, no.

Also, many MRAs probably are mentally ill. What’s wrong with stating the truth?

Similarly, I have no patience for people who invent their own reality. Do you have any evidence that this is true?

Don’t forget that while the majority of people wouldn’t like MRA beliefs, they would find most of the beliefs of the regulars here almost as silly.

Argumentum ad Populum. If I was going to inform my beliefs based on the majority of people around me, I would reject evolution as an explanatory mechanism for the diversity of life on Earth. Not that I think you are correct in saying that our beliefs are ‘equally silly’. Most people have at least some peripheral awareness of the shit that occurs to women, or black people, they just try hard to rationalize this as equality if you press them on the matter.

And now you can rip me to shreds (or ignore me, fine by me), which is a shame, because I really like this blog. But I had to say it.

For someone whining about the comments section, it’s vaguely surprising that you think this shit is new…

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

Those infamous group of Taiwanese animators have made a video about Reddit Island and it is glorious

Ugh
Ugh
8 years ago

@MSM

To be perfectly honest, the answer to this question is a big fat NO. It really doesn’t matter what their political aspirations are.Being honest with people doesn’t get shit done the way making up sensational stories does.

Haha wow. “It’s fine that the blogs I read lie to me because they need to attract more gullible followers.”

Yeah, this might surprise you, but most blogs do not straight up make up stories to write about. Even conservative blogs are usually at least tangential to the truth.

Maybe you should read Feministing. I guarantee you that there has never been a Feministing article about a totally imaginary law.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Yes! My own Artistry for Misandry, er kittens and stuff, post!

All I need now is an Anti-Manboobz post and I can die happy.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

(the latter whom are favorite targets of stupid-ass neurotypical feminists when they decide to go man bashing to stroke their egos).

Go ahead, Nomless, provide even a single example of this.

“Elevator Guy must have been an awkward autistic guy and feminists were mean to him” doesn’t count.

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
8 years ago

Oh noez!!

Kavette was going to call us DUDEZ!

My spirit is crushed by the overwhelming guilt of my mocking ways!! I must do penance!

NOT

The poverty of Winipeg is worse than Nica? In what way precisely?

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
8 years ago

I second Tulgeys wish for another Anti Manboobz post!

Myoo
Myoo
8 years ago

@cloudiah
Oh, you featured my birthday octopus! Thanks!

Amused
8 years ago

MSN: As someone intimately familiar with autism, I seriously doubt you have the condition. I know there are high-functioning autistics who experience difficulties navigating ordinary social situations, and then there are a bunch of entitled dudes who simply diagnose themselves and invoke this bogus “diagnosis” as an excuse for their asshole behavior. And if you are as familiar with the affliction as I am, you can tell the difference between the two when the subject pontificates at length.

cloudiah
8 years ago

@Myoo, I love that octopus so much I can’t even… 🙂

pecunium
8 years ago

But Amused… Nomless is practically Patient Zero for Asperger’s, don’t you remember?

How dare we question him.

jumbofish
jumbofish
8 years ago

He also hates other autistic people and thinks special ed is bad and for “real [slur]” unlike him. Real charmer, sounds like someone who totally understands what its like and not some privileged dick.

Sorry no your lack of empathy for other human beings, passive aggressive anger, social awkwardness, and awkward attempts to get our attention does not make you autistic.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
8 years ago

So, about them people with the laughably underdeveloped and ambitious plan to go and live on an island…

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Morkais, don’t derail the thread with the original topic!

teiresias
teiresias
8 years ago

Okay, so, not sure anyone’s paying attention, but right-wing authoritarianism is a fairly specific term — it means someone who believes strongly in social hierarchy and believes in enforcing it by any means necessary. (Stalin was nominally left-wing, but definitely an RWA in attitude.) I’m not exactly sure what left-wing authoritarianism is — it wasn’t part of Bob Altemeyer’s field of study — but my guess is that it involves enforcing extreme groupthink.

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