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Science proves the Men’s Rights subreddit to be totally not (completely) misogynistic

So apparently I’m way off base with this “misogyny” thing. For example, I have been under the impression that I have been finding misogynistic stuff in the Men’s Rights subreddit, like, all the time. With upvotes, and everything. But evidently I’m wrong.

Because now ignatiusloyola, one of the subreddit mods, has done a very scientific study that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that, well, whatever misogyny is there is officially not a big damn deal.

Ig explains his protocol:

I did a quick scan of the first 400 comments on the list (100/page, 4 pages in). I scanned for words like “cunt” and “whore”, and read the context of these. I looked for the words “woman” and “women”, and read the context of these. I looked for “suffrage” and “vote” also.

I found two comments that used the word “cunt”, one of them was used to describe men, the other to describe a specific woman. The only instances of “whore” were “attention whore”.

There were two comments involving the word “woman” that generalized women with negative stereotypes.

“Suffrage” and “vote” instances did not involve any context that suggested that women did not deserve the right to vote.

How a person defines “hatred of women”, either loosely (suggestive from context, rather than explicit) or strictly (explicit statements), it is pretty clear that out of 400 comments, very few are misogynistic.

Does misogyny exist? Yes. But it does not seem to be a significant contribution to r/MensRights. At best, people are seeing a few comments and focusing on their existence while ignoring the rest.

It’s a lot like that time Michael Richards did that standup routine, and everyone focused on that one word he said, totally ignoring all the other words he used that were totally not racist slurs. I mean, yeah, he said that word a bunch of times, but it still made up a very small percentage of all the words he used that evening.

So that’s that, then. Misogyny, officially not a problem!

Or that would have been that, had Ig not actually posted about his experiment to the subreddit he had just proved was, like, totally non-misogynistic:

Because it turned out that a couple of the fellas had an issue with Ig’s methodology. In particular, that stuff about female suffrage. Because, apparently, you can totally be against women having the right to vote and still not be a misogynist. As zyk0s put it (garnering upvotes in the process):

[T]here’s the matter of female suffrage. I really don’t see how suggesting women should not have been granted the right to vote is misogyny. It might be motivated by it, but not necessarily so, and treating it as such is akin to criminalizing holocaust denial: it’s censorship, pure and simple, and if [1] /r/MR wants to keep calling itself an open space where ideas are not silenced, that attitude has to change.

Our friend Demonspawn went even further(and got a few upvotes himself):

Suggesting that the government works better without the women’s vote is not misogyny. It’s an analysis of the facts and the consequences of allowing women’s suffrage.

Suggesting that women retain the right to vote without the corresponding responsibilities that men face is misandry.

So there you have it. The Men’s Rights subreddit doesn’t have a misogyny problem; if anything, it’s a hotbed of misandry.

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fembot
12 years ago

No reason. I was watching Stepford Wives (the new one with Nicole Kidman) and there was a Nancy Drew joke in it. I guess it was fresh on my mind.

Falconer
12 years ago

Spreading Misandry
Legalizing Misandry
Sanctifying Misandry

OMG they’re like a fantasy trilogy.

Does the main character have an endearing flaw and eyes that change color?

Falconer
12 years ago

@fembot: Ah. That happens to me a lot.

I heard “Somebody That I Used To Know” on the radio the other day and wanted to make Gotye references all day, despite the fact that the meme’s been played out for weeks.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
12 years ago

Next one in the series:

Misandry the Unconquered
Misandry at the Earth’s Core
Son of Misandry

Freitag
Freitag
12 years ago

Misandry Untamed
Misandry Triumphant
Misandry, King of the Library

Freitag
Freitag
12 years ago

BTW, Nancy Drew is very misandrist. She solves mysteries ON HER OWN!

fembot
12 years ago

Don’t forget the new Misandry Vampire series:

Misandry Thrall
Misandry Sleeps
Misandry Corpse
Misandry Maker
Misandry Day Walker

Falconer
12 years ago

Okay, Amazon.com recognizes the Hard Chair Trilogy and The Myth of Male Power, but it doesn’t recognize Why Britain Hates Men — it tried to sell me Torchwood on Blu-Ray — and Self Made Man appears to be about trans men, transitioning, and social pressures surrounding transitioning.

Freitag
Freitag
12 years ago

Now that I think about it, Nancy Drew may have been a primary source of misandry. She was written by a woman, for girls to read instead of having girls read stories where boys were the heroes, thereby teaching little girls that girls have worth. Pure, unadulterated misandry, that.

Falconer
12 years ago

Oh LOL I think I derailed the thread!

Tom Martin
12 years ago

As I was saying, there is a cut out point in debates where v-fems can’t contribute any further without back peddling, so they simply try making a lame joke or two, then disperse.

“Sexism debates are our ball, and we’re not playing any more.”

cloudiah
12 years ago

Mission Misandry 1. The Penguins’ Plan
Mission Misandry 2. Hard Chairs
Mission Misandry 3.The Enemy Within
Mission Misandry 4. An Alien Affair
Mission Misandry 5. Fortune of Feminism
Mission Misandry 6. Losing a Court Case
Mission Misandry 7. Voyage of v-Feminism
Mission Misandry 8. YouTube
Mission Misandry 9. V-Feminism Victorious
Mission Misandry 10. The Doomed Planet

Falconer
12 years ago

Which of those Misandry books is the one with the plagiarized chapter on ferrets?

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
12 years ago

If you people wonder why I troll this site…………….Well, a few posts back I posted a RALE KEWL video of the rarely observed deep sea giant Ocotopus, but nobody replied, so, back to trolling! Carry on. 😉

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
12 years ago

Misandry’s Eagle
Misandry Meets Jesse James
El Misandro contra el Conde Dracula

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
12 years ago

BTW Tom Martin, stop trying to be rational with sharculese. Your arguments are well above his head so he resorts to 9th grade level insults(against anyone who disagrees with the manboobz paradigm). He somehow thinks this is going to help him get laid with the female posters on this blog……….LOLz :-p

Freitag
Freitag
12 years ago

Msr. Nom, it’s Octopus Day. Lots of people posted octopii without it being mentioned. What were you expecting?

Falconer
12 years ago

@M sans Nom: One octopus video (and a time lapse of the NY skyline, for some reason) is a paltry olive branch after all the trolling you’ve done.

Mr.Al managed, by dint of long effort at not being a shitlord, managed to get the commentariat to treat him like a decent human being. Sadly, he reverted to type about 5 minutes after most of us said, you know, Mr.Al’s not half bad.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Misandry’s Ladies of the Night

(Tom wrote that one himself)

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
12 years ago

Misandry’s Eagle
Misandry Meets Jesse James
El Misandro contra el Conde Dracula

Yup

fembot
12 years ago

He somehow thinks this is going to help him get laid with the female posters on this blog……….LOLz :-p

That’s a really stupid comment, even for you. Once again, the only reason you think a man would be respectful to a woman is in the hopes of getting laid. PROJECTION, it ain’t a river in Egypt.

Falconer
12 years ago

@M sans Nom: Then we’d ignore you, because you’re not in charge.

Freitag
Freitag
12 years ago

@Tom, is anyone dispersing? I missed it.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
12 years ago

Is sans Nom the “kill all humans” guy, or am I getting my trolls mixed up?

fembot
12 years ago

Hasn’t Tom threatened to leave before? He always comes back.

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