Men’s Rights subreddit regular Demonspawn (remember him?) is back again with some deliberately vague but definitely threatening talk about judges and politicians:
Not a lot of “plausible deniability” here, though I am sure various MRAs will try to excuse this as not being what it obviously is: a threat of violence against judges, politicians and others who work for the government.
He’s done this before; I wrote about it here.
And while we’re on the topic of Demonspawn, here’s a little followup comment of his from the thread we discussed the other day. It’s a giant wall of text, I know, but it contains gems like: “When women mouth off to men and get their faces bashed in, they’ll know equality.” At least this comment of his got as many downvotes as upvotes.
I’m banned from the Men’s Rights subreddit, of course, but Demonspawn, despite repeatedly violating the subreddit’s rules about posting comments advocating violence, continues to post away. See his comment history for more lovely thoughts on, among other things, why women are parasites who don’t deserve the vote.
No, that’s me missing details again. Sometimes I get lost in these comment threads, lol!
Yeah, I will not be surprised if we find out that this guy is a member of an active white supremacist group in the Milwaukee area and that this group facilitated or helped plan this attack. I just get so annoyed that the first two reactions out of a particular group are always “1) Everyone at the church should have been armed so they could defend themselves” and “2) This guy came out of nowhere and pulled this off? No way, the government did it for XYZ reason.”
This article has a photo of a guy hanging around the scene yesterday with a 9/11 tattoo on his arm. He is now named as a person of interest. I wouldn’t be surprised if an active white supremacist group is involved in planning the attack.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/shooter-wade-page-was-army-vet-white-supremacist-856cn28-165123946.html
@Rutee –
Deaths on the job (from the latest year on Wiki) were about 5,500, of which 92% were men = 5,060.
Multiply that by a working life of say 45 years and you have 227,700 men killed on the job during a working lifetime in the US. That’s over a QUARTER OF A MILLION.
Tell me again, how many people have died from t3rrori5m in the last 45 years in the USA and how much has your society transformed in response to that?
now add in all the deaths accounted for by deaths in combat** (about another 5,500 over the last 45 years, and that’s leaving out Vietnam!),
the disparity between male and female suicides (total of 33,300 in 2006, men kill themselves about 4 times more often than women, so 80% = 26,640 – 6,660 = roughly 20,000 more male suicides than female in the US per annum which is about 900,000 male suicidess over and above the female death rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States),
That’s 227,700 + 5,500 + 900,000 =
1.13 MILLION more men dying (over a 45 year period in the USA) than women due to work, combat and suicide.
And I’m not even getting into the discrepancy in stress related illness fatalities!
Tell me again, how much you think men’s deaths don’t matter, Rutee.
Why am I focussed on death when you are SOOOO keen to focus on non-fatal problems?
Because deaths are indisputable. Death is a 0 / 1 datum. It’s not opinion, subjective assessment or “he said / he feels”, it’s not a “cry for help”.
Death rates are hard numbers, that IMO reveal underlying social bias.
** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war#Wars_ranked_by_US_combat_deathsALMOST all men.
t3rrori5m
Wow..
Terrerism is not really a fucking threat tot he USA. You are not going to hear an anti-racist who is remotely good about it whining about how terrerists are going to kill us all.
You’re only looking at US Casualties in foreign wars, and you’re surprised there’s no civvies and mostly men? You imperialist piece of shit. It’s not the USians who die in droves in their last few wars, dude, and you’re going to pretend men die more than women in general.
You’re not very good at this, seeing as you’re just extrapolating from 2009 data, are you?
And I’m going to care about hilariously biased, poorly derived statistics, because…?
Fuck, you idiot, you’re conflating military with workplace deaths (Which is to say, workplace statistics count the military), so you’re double counting. You’re not looking at workplace data over time, which would help your case if you knew what you were talking about (kind of, except that that rate isn’t going to climb to what you want it to be because it’s the modern era) because the US is safer now.
And all of this misses everything that isn’t death, and there’s a lot of shit that isn’t death that you try to magically claim doesn’t happen.
…Which is less than half of a percentage point of the current population in the USA, and you used the numbers (which you magicked up in a few ways) over 45 years. Yup, feel my apathy at the plight of men.
Oh and… what’s this BS about eyewitness accounts tromping police investigations? May I point out the famous study on eyewitnesses after which subjects say, “what gorilla?” because nobody saw the fucking gorilla prancing in the middle of the video for a good while, despite staring intently at what was going on in the video.
http://psychologytoday.com/blog/brain-sense/201007/expecting-the-unexpected-you-probably-wont-notice-when-it-happens
There’s a book called The Invisible Gorilla written about the unreliability of eyewitness testimony, too. Probably others as well, but this one is pretty famous.
@Rutee – You do know R.P. has black supporters too, right??
@blitzgal – so you do accept that there MAY be more than one shooter involved. That’s all I was driving at here. Evidence first, then conclusions.
And no, I’m not taking anything SPLC says seriously. Particularly when it wangs on about misogynist “hate groups” – have you checked out the history of the SPLC’s founder, who makes plenty $$$ out of the supposedly non-profit .org? Clue: his treatment of the actual women in his life is far from spotless.
He reminds me of that shithead Schwyzer who seems to believe that because he, Schwyzer once tried to kill his gf that other men must be just like him. NAMALT.
@Sharculese – we have enough physical evidence to say “there was definitely a shooting” that’s not in any doubt* whereas we have no physical evidence for UFOs, so most people do not agree that UFOs exist.
We do NOT yet have physical evidence re. bullet trajectories yet, but we DO have testimony of multiple shooters from witnesses who were shot at the shooting we all agree happened.
(*unless you are the kind of dink who believes the planes themselves on 9/11 were holograms, or maybe the more numerous kind of dink who believes a third, steel frame skyscraper that was NOT hit by a plane can just fall down due to a fire – see WTC7)
I’m not entirely discounting the possibility that you’re just a really stupid, myopic non-white person, but it is growing considerably less likely since your primary concern about racism seems to be being identified as a white guy. Plus, this stupid little dance instead of just “I’m black” or w/e, is pretty fucking characteristic of ignorant white people. So is trying to pretend that the fact that Senor Historically Illiterate Sr has a few rare non-white supporters means that the majority of his supporters aren’t white, because his policies are aimed at helping white people at the expense of people who aren’t white.
Plus, you know, he’s a massive fucking racist, which tends to appeal to white people more…
@Rutee – “Terrerism is not really a fucking threat tot he USA.”
Wow. We agree on something. Maybe you could write to Obama and ask him to stop assassinating people with drones, eh?
“You’re only looking at US Casualties in foreign wars, and you’re surprised there’s no civvies and mostly men? You imperialist piece of shit. It’s not the USians who die in droves in their last few wars, dude, and you’re going to pretend men die more than women in general.”
I’m comparing death rates of US women vs. US men. Not death rates of Iraqi women vs. US men. Duh.
Double duh. I oppose all wars of aggression – i.e. invading other people’s countries. So I’m the opoosite of Imperialist.
“… Yup, feel my apathy at the plight of men.”
Thanks. Proving my point that society in general (and US feminists in particular) regard men as disposable robots.
this doesnt make the slightest bit of sense, but yeah dude, you totally proved that different things are different. congrats?
oh god, of course your a truther babby
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, stop, you’re killing me. Please add more “male disposability” to make it funnier.
I see you did. Thanks.
Does that tinfoil ever get uncomfortable, or do you like getting all the pay cable along with your resistance to government thought rays?
I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise at the reveal that 1st Joe is a truther.
when my family was sf we did the children’s science museum, and there’s a station where you can do the gorilla experiment. i didnt do it, because I already new the trick, but it was pretty cool watching other people get caught by it
Bullshit that’s all you were driving at. And I pointed out his known history as a white supremacist to circumvent the next bullshit point that ya’ll tend to make, which is that he “came out of nowhere,” which you folks take as “evidence” that he’s a patsy of some nefarious black ops arm of the government.
like, i’m sure these little outburts are therapeutic for you, but they dont exactly change to the fact that eyewitness testimony is poor evidence, or that if the forensics show that youre just gonna claim it’s because TEH GUBBERMENT is trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
I’m aware you are erasing everything that could possibly hurt your point.
No, not being an imperialist would be not counting your own country as more important and permanently trumping the people your country murdered. Most of this shit isn’t done by violence; according to you, apparently, free trade agreements that fuck over South Americans: not imperialist, because there was no violence.
Yup, men are totally disposable when less than 1% of today’s men can be counted as dying more than women over the last 45 fucking years of ‘gendered deaths’. That is totally an accurate statement *eyerolls*. My apathy at a non-existent plight does not mean feminists regard men as disposable robots, it’s because men aren’t disposable robots, no matter how much you and Farrell stamp your feet and insist that you are treated this way.
@eline – I’m pretty sure that centuries of Iceland’s independent minded anarchism (which is WHY Iceland was founded as a nation in the first place) are more significant than Iceland’s PM right now happening to be a feminist lesbian in deciding to tell the thieving banksters to fuck off.
Ah, you’re a Finn. Maybe you’ve seen Swedish women hitting on drunk Finns in preference to their Swedish house husbands? I heard a rumour that’s how it goes. I wonder how the cuckolded Swedish house-husbands feel in the femi-paradise of Sweden? Sweden, where they had an entire political party whose anthem was all about chopping up men. Sweden, where selling sex is legal, but buying it is illegal.
http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/you_cant_handle_the_truthiness_a_night_out_with_the_9_11_truth_community/
http://www.csicop.org/sb/show/how_i_debated_a_9_11_truther_and_survived/
wow it sure is convenient how you can make everything fit into the narrative you want to be true, just by assuming it is true
@Rutee – jesus fucking Christ, NO! That’s TOTAL BULLSHIT!
Just because I happen not to mention a thing, does not make me magically, automatically in favour of that thing! Quit trying to put words into my mouth, or make out that I’m somehow ignorant of the harm done by so called “free trade” agreements, because I happen not to mention them in a discussion about excess male deaths (vs. female deaths in the same country).
You’re obvious attempts to reframe and manipulate are OBVIOUS.
emphasis mine
All about the hard facts and critical thinking, this one
>>@Rutee – You do know R.P. has black supporters too, right??
Yeah, they all meet once a month at a pub, order two pitchers of beer for the whole gang and go home roaring drunk.
You summed up imperialism as solely violence, you fucking ignoramus. Don’t be surprised when I don’t magically assume that you’re knowledgeable when you’ve demonstrated yourself a fucking ignoramus.
‘excess’, still less than 1% of the current population of men after counting the last 45 years of it. Stop pretending that this is a thing when your support is this weak.
This, from the guy who refuses to engage with the fact that his grand proof that men are totally dying in droves is less than 1% of just currently living men have died when you account for the last 45 years of deaths just men suffered.
Also, that you’re ignoring everything but Meriken death and trying to pretend only Meriken death mattered. Not willing to face up to what your country did? Fucking asshole. I’ll take that fucking trade, of being 99% likely to survive for all the rights men get over women.
@whoeveritwas – By the way I don’t give a fuck what religion thieving banksters happen to have (or don’t have). I care about what they DO. And what they DO is fuck everyone else on the planet to their own profit.
A thieving bankster is a thieving bankster is a thieving bankster, it’s not fucking “code” for fucking anything! I can’t believe people still buy this smokescreen of “ooooh it’s ‘anti-semitic’ to criticise massive banks that destroy / asset strip entire countries”. There are shitloads of WASPs in banking, and lots of other people of different races too. It’s a massive fucking con, not a fucking religion nor an ethnicity!
@Blackbloc / Sharculese – ah, “truther” another handy label so you can ignore reality! Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back now.
dude, you’re actually just really bad at expressing yourself. do you know how hard it is to wade through the high octane rage and weird punctuation to get at what youre saying?