Men’s Rights subreddit regular Demonspawn (remember him?) is back again with some deliberately vague but definitely threatening talk about judges and politicians:
Not a lot of “plausible deniability” here, though I am sure various MRAs will try to excuse this as not being what it obviously is: a threat of violence against judges, politicians and others who work for the government.
He’s done this before; I wrote about it here.
And while we’re on the topic of Demonspawn, here’s a little followup comment of his from the thread we discussed the other day. It’s a giant wall of text, I know, but it contains gems like: “When women mouth off to men and get their faces bashed in, they’ll know equality.” At least this comment of his got as many downvotes as upvotes.
I’m banned from the Men’s Rights subreddit, of course, but Demonspawn, despite repeatedly violating the subreddit’s rules about posting comments advocating violence, continues to post away. See his comment history for more lovely thoughts on, among other things, why women are parasites who don’t deserve the vote.
Predictably, a Google search shows that the ‘4 shooters’ claims are all from far right/White supremacist sources (Libertarian Patriot, Infowars) that are using it as evidence of a ‘false flag’ operation.
The First Joe, since YOU don’t think it’s a false flag operation, can you tell us what you think the implications are in your opinion, or are you going to simply ‘ask questions’ indefinitely while refusing to ever acknowledge that you believe anything of your own?
@Blackbloc
LOL infowars. I love how Alex Jones pulls down 400k a year from that website.
It’s pretty hilarious that conspiracy theorists think “Soviets planted feminists in academia in the most convuluted Wile E. Coyote plot to take down the west,” but never seem to think, “hey, maybe this millionaire I keep sending money to has a vested interest in making me think that if I don’t send money everything everywhere will be ruined.”
Oh, the big conspiracy baby whined that I proved ‘male disposability’ by pointing out that men aren’t really disposable, and don’t die often at all as civilians in the modern world. Heeeeeee
FirstJoe:
So? Steven Steinberg repeatedly stabbed his wife, and his defense was that she had nagged him and that was claimed as “abuse”. He didn’t even do “a few months”. He was acquitted. One of the jurors later commented that Steinberg should have been awarded a medal for killing his wife. Source. And while this was a far more gruesome crime than Winkler’s and a far more sensational trial, notice how there isn’t a Wikipedia page with critical viewpoints. Feminist conspiracy, huh?
@Rutee – you proved your support for male disposability by saying:
The deaths of 5 thousand men plus per year (in the USA) is in Your Opinion “insignificant”,
(and now you’re doubling down on that!)
whilst simultaneously – being as your a feminist – no doubt regarding the deaths of far fewer women in DV as being very significant indeed.
Not to mention that you couldn’t resist on trying to steer the whole convo onto another non-fatal issue so that you could say “oooh look women have it worse!” thus showing us that you regard non-fatal women’s issues as more important than men’s deaths.
You have utterly exposed your own bias.
@Blackbloc – what? do you sincerely believe that they have all the forensics done on the crime scene within 24hours?? I hate to break it to you, but RL does not = CSI. Forensics takes TIME.
What I actually said:
You’re the one who said insignificant. I said it isn’t evidence that dudes are disposable.
Not in the way you’re claiming workplace fatality matters for men.
Dude, 16ish% of women get raped. That’s a thing that actually affects a high number of women. Being raped isn’t as bad as dying, no, but pretending workplace death (A huge plurality of which is traffic accidents, btw, not mineshaft accidents or w/e) is an issue that is likely to affect men is… pretty fucking laughable.
Exactly. I knew where he was headed the moment he said it. He’s just mad that I jumped ahead of all of his “science” and beat him to the punch on his conclusion.
Every major attack like this one has a false flag conspiracy theory attached to it. Every single one of them. That would mean that there are literally no terrorists in the world. Everything is faked by “them” as part of “their” plans to rule the world.
If I were in a mood to entertain conspiracy bullshit, I’d ask how the existence of 4 shooters makes “ZOMG TEH FALSE FLAG” more likely than “There were 4 violent racist shitheads”, but I doubt I want to hear the BS that is likely to flow. Hint to stupid white people: There are still plenty of violent racists.
FYI the odds of dying on the job, over 60 years of a working lifetime, are at .24%, so still less than a percent…
.23. Stupid tpyos.
@Amused – Wow. Ok, I am astonished. That (Steinberg)’s as bad as the Winkler case in some respects, certainly in the sense of being a horrible killing of a sleeping partner.
Weird that the judge did not provide the jury an option to convict for manslaughter too. That said, I notice his defence had to convince the jury of BOTH suffering abuse & sleepwalking / temporary insanity. I wonder how the case would have gone with only one half of that defence? a la Mary WInkler…
@Rutee and Blitzgal – It’s you who keeps wanging on about false flags. And the evidence I presented does not SOURCE from sites that happen to link TO that evidence. You are putting the horse before the cart.
@Rutee- how the fuck would you know what race I am (or not)?
Southern Poverty Law Center has been keeping tabs on this guy since 2000, so he’s a known element of the white supremacist movement.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/08/shooter-identified-in-sikh-temple-killings/1#.UB_1mmGXTNU
Aww. Pell called me “hysterical” for worrying about women things. That’s just quaint.
And yes, the Arizona law is really that bad: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/07/30/604631/fatal-fetal-defect-counselors-brace-for-influx-of-families-after-arizonas-abortion-ban/?mobile=nc
Also, no a woman cannot walk into any medical facility and get an abortion. In addition to waiting periods, late-term bans like Arizona’s, and the cost, Catholic hospitals will usually refuse to perform an abortion under any circumstances, even if the mother’s life is at risk.
/FYI
@TheFirstJoe
I don’t actually assume anything about you in particular, but it’s funny you get all defensive and feel a need to prove you don’t beat women. I’m just mentioning some nasty things, and using it as a rhetorical weapon to verbally beat you into doing something instead of whining that things are baaaad. It’s what I despise about MRAs: they sit on their asses and complain on the internet instead of HELPING those homeless men or men who suffered workplace injuries. Feminists (male, female or any gender) are out there doing stuff, and they manage to do it without killing innocent people too.
I’m not interested in the conspiracy BS you spammed the previous pages with so I’m not commenting on the “main topic”, btw. The job accident topic is a side topic. But if you give a stupid opinion on a side topic I find moderately interesting I will comment on your stupid opinion. Your opinion is stupid btw, because you basically suggest “if it can’t be done perfectly let’s not bother” by whining about accidents happening despite safety measures.
And did you see me mention I’m Scandinavian? I know Scandinavian history quite well. Going that far back in history isn’t really relevant to today’s financial crisis. What is however relevant is the sweet irony of you praising probably the most feminist-influenced country in the world while blaming feminism for being part of some great NWO conspiracy or whatever-the-hell your particular flavour of lunacy calls it today. Icelanders think and do the way they do because most of them are left-leaning (even the right by US standards), progressive and feminist egalitarian regardless of the party they vote. Maybe you should reconsider your standing if you truly admire Iceland. Because now your admiration is, like I said, sweet irony.
You whined about how RuPaul is the only dude for peace, so I’ve got a pretty good guess.
You might just be a really shitty writer, but it soundsl ike you’re trying to say you think that evidence exists, and you are indeed angry that Blitzgal has heard your spiel and beat you to it.
Sooo, has “bankers” ever meant anything but “the jooowss own eve-ry-thangg”?
so why were you yammering about additional evidence if there isnt any yet. i mean it doesnt matter because when the forensics come back, youll just start claiming the government is suppressing the truth, but still.
The buzz words tend to be consistent. There are news stories that I go out of my way to avoid talking about to this co-worker, because I just know it’s going to turn into some kind of “Mossad….buzzbuzzbuzz….bankers…buzzbuzzbuzz….HAARP caused the Japanese earthquake….also Ron Paul really won the primary.”
BlackBloc, I know what politician is putting us on moderation. R.P. Can’t believe I missed that one.
Yeah, David mentioned at some point that whiny libertarians meant Ahistorical Nitwit Sr.’s name is going to make the post go through moderation. Sorry, thought that was known.
Oh yeah and I will give you a concrete example of how feminists fight against this “male disposability” you like to talk about: in Finland we have draft. Only men are drafted, women volunteer. It’s the feminist, progressive parties that have been fighting for decades to get this changed so that either BOTH men and women of suitable capability get drafted. Or that nobody does and everyone volunteers. This is one of the main talking points of my party, along with paternity rights, shared parental leave and shared custody. This is a party with slightly more female MPs than male, all feminist, progressive and green. This is real actions to better the lives of men AND of women, brought to you by feminism. And it’s the parties made up mostly of middle-aged (white) men who oppose the issues that you MRAs share with us.
Who really is the enemy, and who is the imagined foe?
Eline: MRAs don’t really want the draft to be gender equal; they believe women make shitty soldiers. They want us to worship them for their cocks, the trait that all soldiers are supposed to have, and act like their penis-holding means they could have been in the military (Even when it’s enlistment only…)
This sort of shit is why I say military service is a class benefit, not detriment, at least for the western men who whinge about it. If we were, for instance, talking about slave levies in aztec, that’d be different, but we’re not.
@blitzgal
yeah, but it’s a well known fact that the splc is part of the feminist conspiracy, which is why theyve been working overtime to discredit paul elam, remember.