Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, some of the fellas are discussing a recent post from Arthur Goldwag on the Southern Poverty Law Center Hatewatch blog. Goldwag looks at some of the hero-bashing comments from MRAs in the wake of the Aurora shootings, which we’ve discussed here and here.
This somehow inspires the prolix Men’s Right Redditor Demonspawn to set forth some of his opinions about (most) women and how shitty they are. The whole discussion is worth reading, as a sort of case study in MRA hypocrisy: all this woman-hatred comes in a thread in which Reddit MRAs wax indignant once again that anyone might possibly label them hateful. (Also, how dare women suggest that there’s anything untoward about a dude hanging onto nude pics of an ex, when clearly not deleting them is a sign of “respect.”)
Looks like Demonspawn won himself a convert! Congrats. you beautiful douchebag.
This is, in point of fact, why I firmly believe that men should date women who are roughly comparable in earning potential. I have gone on many dates, it’s true; I’ve also turned down and/or neglected to pursue many potential dates. There were, obviously, a plethora of reasons, but one of the most common is and was a disparity in earnings. I will not be objectified for my money – I consider this a shining example of cultural misandry and will mitigate it whenever possible. And women who work – and especially, who are as successful as me – are much less inclined to expect me to subsidize their livelihood, like I’m some sort of all-purpose servant and butler.
I encourage other men to restrict their dating pool likewise.
But if she has a job, she might be intelligent or educated! And that’s a SUPER NO-NO!
Am I just having a bad day, or is Demonspawn a really fucking confusing writer? Also, I was sort of puzzled by how Canadian4Paul folded when I looked to the left and saw Canadian4Paul.
“Success objects” lol.
Dude, you forgot to mention Ella. You’re slacking.
“I will not be objectified for my money” this statement literally made me lol
“And women who work – and especially, who are as successful as me – are much less inclined to expect me to subsidize their livelihood, like I’m some sort of all-purpose servant and butler.”
Haven’t we all gone over how paying for dinner = / = subsidizing livelihood (or even food intake), and how none of this relates to your ragewanking over servant/butler?
Ha ha, creepy dude Steele Pole Butthorn’s blog is back! And he thinks what he does is “journalism.”
http://antimanboobz.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/hiatus/
Reason 43290875# Steele shouldn’t have been a writer: from his usage, it is no longer possible to know if “subsidize their livelihood” actually just means “pay for a dinner.” He also doesn’t seem to realize that servants and butlers are paid employees, not financial benefactors.
Then fuck talking about men or women. Talk about people.
“A perfectionist to the last, I’d much prefer to be upfront than have the quality of my journalism suffer. ”
Thank you, Steele, I needed a good laugh today.
I don’t mean to be too hard on you, though, Steele. Good on you for standing up to society’s oppression of wealthy men.
No “excuse me”, no “vile”, no “disgusting”. He didn’t even say “misandrist-feminist”.
That whole meme that there’s separate gendered definitions of love/respect needs to die a horrible death. NOW.
Heh, any Diana Wynne Jones fans here? ‘Cos the first thing I thought of when I read that was this quote from Lives of Christopher Chant:
“Christopher had no idea that people saw him like this. He was astounded. What’s gone wrong with me? he thought. I’m nice really! When he went to the Anywheres as a small boy, everyone had liked him. Everybody had smiled. Total strangers had given him things. Christopher saw that he had gone on thinking that people only had to see him to like him, and it was only too clear that nobody did.”
SuicideBanana doesn’t seem to realise that this works exactly the same for girls. When you’re a small and adorable child you can do anything you like, and people will indulge you and adore you and tell you you’re cute, and run around cleaning up after you because you’re an adorable but clueless child who doesn’t know any better yet, and you don’t have to actually be a decent person or take responsibility for anything to earn this.
I am quite worried for this guy that this is his definition of adult love.
Love it. He’s trying to simultaneously argue that obsession with material wealth is shallow, but obsession with physical beauty is not. What the fuck ever, duder.
Also, apparently cleanshaven dudes are as adorable as kids!
DAMMIT
Steele is so funny. Men own/control 98% of the land on the planet and he thinks misandry is a thing. If that’s losing, I want to be a loser too!
Tulgey, its not just you. I read Demonspawn’s initial kickoff several times, and it’s still not perfectly clear.
FIGHT THE POWER, STEELE!!! Or shut the fuck up, your choice.
I do enjoy how his example of male respect puts “respect” in scare quotes, making it clear that the speaker does not respect his ex and likely did not when he was with her. The misogyny froth is so great, he can’t even make his own misogynistic point without tripping himself up.
CLEAR UNBIASED CRITICAL THINKING
OK, so they want to be loved like children? The shitty writing was throwing me off. And the “success object” thing…errr, are these guys all millionaire CEOs?
She should have realized that I’m the kind of asshole who would cease giving any consideration to her feelings the moment I wasn’t being rewarded with sex. Is it my fault she failed to notice I’m a total doucheface?!??
I would try to frenchcountertroll here, but I feel I’m wearing it out already.
I love how, if there are nude pics from sexytiems, not deleting them is “holding her accountable for her actions.”
Those actions you are “holding her accountable” for? Those actions are not “letting you snap her nekkers.” Those actions are “breaking up with you.”
And they are to be punished by releasing said dirty snaps to the Intarwebz.
She shouldn’t have broken up with you, huh? You’ll show her that actions have consequences!
You utter slimeball. If I found you stuck to the bottom of my shoe, I’d have to throw away the kitchen knife I used to scrape you into the trash. I might have to throw away the shoe, too, but then I’d look daft.
No, some of them are millionaire CEO yuppie grad student entrepreneurs.
With a hot girlfriend. Sorry, semi-attractive.
And a flying car.
And a professional journalistic website.. I mean, blog. A half-arsed blog.
And a yacht, don’t forget the yacht.