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Roosh V has a little trouble with the concept of “no.” [TW: Rape Apologia]

Recently, a nameless commenter here asked “What exactly is “rapey” about Pick Up Artistry?” The post below should help to answer that question.

Hey, fellas! Say you’ve applied some state of the art Pickup Artistry on some HB 10 (“hot babe 10”) and you’re about to add another notch to your “girls I’ve totally had sex with” belt – and she has the gall to tell you “no.” Should you be worried?

Pickup artist Roosh Valizedah (whom we were talking about just yesterday) says, er, no. Apparently “no” (when the word is uttered by a girl you are groping) is actually a variant of “yes.” Who knew?

While every feminist likes to repeat the phrase “No means no,” it depends on context. Here’s a guide:

“No” when you try to take off her jeans or shirt means… “You need to turn me on a lot more.”

“No” when you try to take off her bra means… “Try again in five minutes.”

“No” when you try to take off her panties means… “Don’t give up now!”

I find the only word that means no is “stop.” If you hear that word then she’ll be asking you to leave soon after.

So just filter out everything she says other than the word “stop” and you’ll be fine. Oh, and if she actually starts punching you, that’s also a clue that she doesn’t want to have sex with you.

For every rape accusation I’d want to know at what stage of undress the girl was at before the supposed rape happened. If she was completely naked until saying no, and got there voluntarily, then I’d be reluctant to charge the man with rape unless there were signs of violence.

Gals need to remember, Roosh explains, that once a man gets a boner he’s pretty much helpless.  His innate biological drives require that he either have sex with you (if you’re willing) or rape you (if you are unwilling and remember to say “stop” as well as “no”).

Women need to understand that men aren’t robots who can suddenly stop at the drop of a dime with all that testosterone pumping through their system. Therefore it would be prudent for them not to enter situations where the average man can’t stop due to his innate weaknesses as an animal whose entire existence depends on him successfully mating.

If it gets to that point, Roosh advises the ladies,  you should just try to enjoy the rape as best you can – like it’s some sort of carnival ride.

Every roller coaster has a point while chugging up that first hill where’s there’s no turning back and you just need to hang on for the ride. In other words, don’t let a man on your bed unless you’re trying to get it.

So, In Roosh’s world, woman who merely say “no” shouldn’t complain about being raped, and men are basically slavering beasts controlled by their penises. What a lovely view of the world!

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KathleenB
KathleenB
12 years ago

Steele: FFS, dude, you need to expand your list of stock phrases. Even the most creative snappy one liners (which yours aren’t, just so we’re clear) get old if you repeat them too often.

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

Meant ‘won’t’ for ‘can’t’. The implication is he could do better and chooses not to XD

But then, that’s kind of the story of his life. Re: Farrell being unqualified, you should hear him talk about history too. There’s a lot of amateurs lacking formal education who put his history ‘knowledge’ to shame.

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

You have no talent. Telling you that is, if anything, doing you a favor, because it’s an honest evaluation of your ability.

Irregardless whether this is is true or not, my teacher’s views toward all her male students’ writing was explicitly informed by misandry. I was the only one who showed any level of interest, so I was the only one whom her vile misandry actually affected.

But I’m done with this particular argument. You don’t actually get to inform me what my teacher who you never met said, and you don’t get to call me a liar for accurately reminiscing on my life.

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

What our society needs is a tradition where it’s romantic to pay a lady’s gas bill, gentlemanly to pick up her car payment, and a gesture of chivalry to purchase one’s date a bottle of oven cleaner and a 4-pack of socks at the Family Dollar.

Then we’ll have some goddamn subsidized livelihoods.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

also half a handle of captain morgan’s and a bottle of rex goliath for when he’s trying to impress his semi-intelligent semi-attractive ladyfriends.

Don’t forget the bottle of Grey Goose, because he’s baller like that.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

But I’m done with this particular argument. You don’t actually get to inform me what my teacher who you never met said, and you don’t get to call me a liar for accurately reminiscing on my life.

Actually yeah, we do. Because your story isn’t that plausible to start with, and you have a proven track record of dishonesty and self-delusion. Why must we keep going through this?

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

Irregardless

In case you had any doubts, you just proved my case for me.

Whether this is is true or not, my teacher’s views toward all her male students’ writing was explicitly informed by misandry

So, being the super activist you are, you went and had her outright statements of “Men can’t write” used as evidence for the fact that she should be fired?

Oh wait, you’re just lying to our faces again XD

You don’t actually get to inform me what my teacher who you never met said

But I can say that you are clearly lying to us. Also, you are still a talentless hack.

and you don’t get to call me a liar for accurately reminiscing on my life.

And you’re lying about why I called you a liar, and how… XD

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

Inventing facts out of wholecloth is the definition of being a liar, and you’ve been doing it XD

Whether you consider them legitimate or not, I point to Farrell, Glenn Sacks, Fidelbogen and many other sources. I disagree with your assessment of Farrell; also, in point of fact, it is unsurprising that academia, like everything else in society, is tainted with misandry. Naturally he doesn’t get support. Vile. Vile.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
12 years ago

PLEASE vary your vocabulary a bit, dude, it’s getting increasingly tedious to read…

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

proven track record of dishonesty and self-delusion

In point of actual fact, I don’t – yourself, Rutee, and the rest of Boobzland have just set up a a “tautological loop”, as they say. I’m a serial liar because I lie about misandry and my teacher, which you know are lies because I’m a serial liar, because I lie about misandry and my teacher.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

@Steele

HAHAHA Fidelbogen is not a “source.” Sources are things like statistics, or studies. Random hateful rantings on the internet is not a “fact.”

Also, as I mentioned above, most psych/science undergrads are more qualified to write about gender roles than Farell. Do you have any sources by people who actually have degrees in related fields?

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

None of them are researchers, the former two are laughed at by what few academics are familiar with their work are

I disagree with your assessment of Farrell;

I know that you’re not a fan of reality, dude.

Naturally he doesn’t get support.

Yeah, academia, which is still dominated by old white dudes, is so misandrist. hmhmhmhmhm XD

You don’t know what oppression looks like XD

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

I’m a serial liar because I lie about misandry and my teacher, which you know are lies because I’m a serial liar, because I lie about misandry and my teacher.

You’re a serial liar because of the sockpuppeting, which you’ve admitted to. Everything else is just icing on the cake.

Wetherby
Wetherby
12 years ago

Finally, the misandry of my teacher did indeed discourage me from pursuing a writing career. Would I have made it? I cannot be sure, but in point of fact, misandry was what ceased my progress.

Well, I reckon the rest of us can be very sure indeed.

You’re a dreadful writer. You’re needlessly verbose, you scatter clichés like confetti, your vocabulary is repetitive to the point where it’s become a meme in itself (Julian Barnes once chided himself for using the word “crepuscular” twice in the space of a year), you don’t seem to understand what half the big words that you use actually mean, and you show not the slightest inclination to improve, even though you’ve had plenty of surprisingly constructive criticism in recent weeks.

Instead, you blame some teacher that you had years and years ago for “discouraging” you. Well, boo hoo hoo – I’m sure the rest of us exclusively had teachers who recognised our potential immediately and ensured that we fulfilled it to the max. Not.

Writing really isn’t a hard career to break into. It doesn’t require massive investment or a shedload of equipment – Stephen King once reckoned that the total production cost of The Shining at his end was about $24.00, mostly spent on typewriter ribbons. It doesn’t require years of training at elite universities or hard-won scholarships. Hell, these days it doesn’t even require investment in dictionaries or thesauruses, as you have access to countless free ones online.

It just requires talent, and an ability to pitch that talent to people who are prepared to pay for its end products.

If you have it, and you know it, no amount of discouragement (misandrist or otherwise) will make any difference, because you know that you’ve got what it takes – the rest of the world will catch up eventually.

But if you don’t have it… well, it’s so much easier to blame someone else, isn’t it? And if you can tie it into some great big misandrist conspiracy, so much the better.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

Also, pro tip, actual writers don’t say “point of actual fact” every three sentences or so. If they actually have facts to say, they say them, without the tedium.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Vile. Vile.

Yet another reason you’d never make it as a writer: You don’t listen to criticism. We’ve told you time and how fucking tedious and repetitive your writing is, but do you crack open a damned thesaurus already? No! You just keep repeating the same crap over and over until the words lose all meaning.

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

yourself, Rutee, and the rest of Boobzland have just set up a a “tautological loop”, as they say.

Suck less. Stop taking advice on how to write from Fidelbogen (oh lord does you reading him explain a lot.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_%28logic%29

I’m a serial liar because I lie about misandry and my teacher, which you know are lies because I’m a serial liar

You were a serial liar before that story, dude. I said as much; there’s a lot more you directly lied about, blatantly and obviously.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

I’m a serial liar because I lie about misandry and my teacher, which you know are lies because I’m a serial liar, because I lie about misandry and my teacher.

This is, of course, ignoring all the points people have made to you, time and time again. And your own admissions of repeated dishonesty.

So your defense against being called a liar is to commit multiple lies of omission.

Sharculese
12 years ago

In point of actual fact, I don’t

if your totes not actually a liar, why come your new blog post repeats the admitted lie that david accused you of sockpuppeting to get your blog shut down?

in point of fact, it is unsurprising that academia, like everything else in society, is tainted with misandry. Naturally he doesn’t get support.

do you have any other goals besides working towards a society where nothing is ever a man’s fault?

Polliwog
Polliwog
12 years ago

Steele is now inserting his stupid catchphrases in every comment, to a degree that pretty much has to be deliberate. The question is, is he (a) so staggeringly pathetic that he is actually thinking, “They think they can tell me not to write like a moron, but I’ll show them! Nobody tells Butthorn what to do!” or (b) just a Poe after all?

Either way, I fully expect the next thing he posts just to read, “Excuse me? In point of fact, you’re the jester’s fool. Irregardless, you are vile misandrists. Vile, vile, vile.”

heidihi
heidihi
12 years ago

@Everyone with a green icon that mocks Steele by starting a paragraph with Excuse me?:

I like to just read your comment and see how long it takes before i realize that it’s a mockery of his style instead of just him. Not surprisingly, often i get to the end and have to read the name of the writer to see who it was!

As a writer myself, I gotta say, he’s got a ‘voice,’ at least 😀

Flib
Flib
12 years ago

Wetherby, that is exactly why I feel the term “Not a Poe” applies so well to Varpoole. His writing is so needlessly excessive and over the top.

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
12 years ago

Haha guess who fails at reading comprehension? Valenti is American, not Canadian.

Also, who fails at research. You realize that the hypothetical act, the Human-Robot Personal Relationship Act, does not exist outside of MRA sites, right? Like, you realize that rationally, you could go to the Parliament website, search proposed acts of the last ten years for that, and it wouldn’t be there right?

More simply, you understand there is a difference between things that are true, and things that are not true, right?

I am quite pleased to be wrong about this. Now my plan to create robot lovers can proceed without any interference!!! 🙂

People like YOU spend way too much time trying to disprove things stated by those you dislike as well as statements you don’t like that happen to be true. Get a hobby. 😉

Sharculese
12 years ago

monsieur sans self awareness

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

@MSN

I disproved it not 0.24 seconds after typing the act’s name into Google (Parliament’s pages are indexed). This is remarkably easy to do, which is why it’s all the more hilarious how few MRAs seem capable of doing so.

Eh, I’m enjoying myself. I need regular 5 min breaks from my work or I can’t focus at all.

People like you might want to consider why it is that MRA sites actually just make shit up out of whole cloth. Have you ever considered that actual political movements don’t have to invent grievances?