Recently, a nameless commenter here asked “What exactly is “rapey” about Pick Up Artistry?” The post below should help to answer that question.
Hey, fellas! Say you’ve applied some state of the art Pickup Artistry on some HB 10 (“hot babe 10”) and you’re about to add another notch to your “girls I’ve totally had sex with” belt – and she has the gall to tell you “no.” Should you be worried?
Pickup artist Roosh Valizedah (whom we were talking about just yesterday) says, er, no. Apparently “no” (when the word is uttered by a girl you are groping) is actually a variant of “yes.” Who knew?
While every feminist likes to repeat the phrase “No means no,” it depends on context. Here’s a guide:
“No” when you try to take off her jeans or shirt means… “You need to turn me on a lot more.”
“No” when you try to take off her bra means… “Try again in five minutes.”
“No” when you try to take off her panties means… “Don’t give up now!”
I find the only word that means no is “stop.” If you hear that word then she’ll be asking you to leave soon after.
So just filter out everything she says other than the word “stop” and you’ll be fine. Oh, and if she actually starts punching you, that’s also a clue that she doesn’t want to have sex with you.
For every rape accusation I’d want to know at what stage of undress the girl was at before the supposed rape happened. If she was completely naked until saying no, and got there voluntarily, then I’d be reluctant to charge the man with rape unless there were signs of violence.
Gals need to remember, Roosh explains, that once a man gets a boner he’s pretty much helpless. His innate biological drives require that he either have sex with you (if you’re willing) or rape you (if you are unwilling and remember to say “stop” as well as “no”).
Women need to understand that men aren’t robots who can suddenly stop at the drop of a dime with all that testosterone pumping through their system. Therefore it would be prudent for them not to enter situations where the average man can’t stop due to his innate weaknesses as an animal whose entire existence depends on him successfully mating.
If it gets to that point, Roosh advises the ladies, you should just try to enjoy the rape as best you can – like it’s some sort of carnival ride.
Every roller coaster has a point while chugging up that first hill where’s there’s no turning back and you just need to hang on for the ride. In other words, don’t let a man on your bed unless you’re trying to get it.
So, In Roosh’s world, woman who merely say “no” shouldn’t complain about being raped, and men are basically slavering beasts controlled by their penises. What a lovely view of the world!
The idea is to design technology so advanced that it cannot be controlled. Kinda like a futuristic, 21st century Frankenstein. We’ll see my friend, we’ll see…………
Some 13 years ago, I had the idea not of replacing people with Robots, but creating an entire new biological species from an existing organism using recombinant DNA technology. Biology is actually very messy, so this might be a lot harder to do than sentient robots.
Thirteen years ago, wouldn’t you have been, like, three?
Seriously, all your half-baked dystopian fantasies just scream “doodled on my notebook during study hall.”
Right, because we all know how non-violent Frankenstein’s monster was.
“Some 13 years ago, I had the idea not of replacing people with Robots, but creating an entire new biological species from an existing organism using recombinant DNA technology. Biology is actually very messy, so this might be a lot harder to do than sentient robots.”
“Thirteen years ago, wouldn’t you have been, like, three?
Seriously, all your half-baked dystopian fantasies just scream “doodled on my notebook during study hall.””
So this girl was really mean to me in the hallway – she shuddered and called me a creep when all I was doing was following her around with a small recording device! And then this dude on the football team gave me a swirlie, and that’s when I decided that humanity needed to be replaced by sentient robots. Not for my own selfish reasons, you understand – I’m not emotional like women are.
Nope! More like 20. 😉
You do realise that actually makes you look worse, don’t you?
Meaning: one of myriad of useless mouths in corporate middle management who could disappear tomorrow without any significant impact on the project they’re on, with a failing home business of some sort, possibly a pyramid scheme or Amway.
You’re probably not even nouveau riche (as opposed to old money), nevermind having a ‘station’. In any case the only proper deference a capitalist should receive is an opportunity for pithy last words before the guillotine blade falls down.
Correction: your employees accomplished more in their life than you ever did.
As a rising young recombinant cyborg executive, I take offense to everything that has been said by everyone ever.
Excuse me? It’s King’s Cross, plat. 9 3/4: where all the rising corporate executive/grad students hang out.
It’s hard to acknowledge anyone’s “station”, if they have enough time on their hands to argue day after day against The Internet People. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that, people have their reasons to spend lots of time on forums and blogs etc. I’m saying whatever you claim to be doing clearly is not important enough because you spend more time commenting here than I am even able to, and I’ve got all the time in the world to waste right now on my sick leave.
So don’t even try to pull that bullshit. It’s ridiculous to claim you’re somehow “better” than the rest here, trying to “validate” whatever dream you might have and which you are failing at. If you weren’t you’d not have the need to prove yourself here.
Also,
” The reason why those whiny “nice guys” don’t get women is because they foolishly believe that by being civil to women and treating them well, they can convince women to *become* attracted to them even if said women don’t feel any such feelings whatsoever. Somebody could say “well I fell for him cuz he’s a gentleman and treats me with respect”, but you cannot honestly verify if she is actually telling the truth, or at least the Whole Truth. If I dont find someone sexually attractive who is nice to me, I will be friends with them but will reject any attempts by them to take it any further. And for that I’m not unique! I don’t see what’s so unreasonable or outrageous about this notion.”
I don’t think it’s unreasonable if you say that is how you function. I’m not gonna deny that you may feel that way. However, other people may be different.
I’ve dated three guys who I didn’t find particularly attractive until later. All started as being friends. It’s not that I found them unattractive, I simply had not thought about them as anything but friends. How those three relationships developed happened exactly like you claim is not possible. I’ve also not dated friend guys who started flirting with me, so it’s true that being nice is not an absolute guarantee of a date. But those three relationships of varying lengths make up a significant portion of “guys I’ve dated”.
It’s patently untrue that just being nice to someone you fancy cannot get you a date. It absolutely can, and perhaps some of us are the kind of people who are more receptive to that than others. And if you now say I probably just say this because I’m “an unreliable woman” (or am I?) and what I say cannot be verified…. yeah, it is the internet. Everyone here is free to take each others’ comments as they will, based on the commenter’s presumed trustworthiness. Especially bystanders reading this discussion. There is a lot of people refuting your points as nonsense, with both personal testimonies and harder proof. Is your arsepulled hypothesis going to stand?
@Monsieur Sans Nom
If the technology is so advanced that it cannot be controlled then, once again, why would the robots not become violent or intolerant, even if people prevented that in the beginning? Robots would probably be better in many things than humans, but you have yet to explain why morality would be one of those things.
If you can’t think of any reasons they would do bad things then you have a very limited imagination.
Consider this: some robots would most likely be more advanced than others, because technology evolves and all. The more advanced models could look down on the less advanced ones and view them as obsolete, so there’s your intolerance right there.
Now image that it would be costlier to upgrade the older models than to build new ones, so the newer models decide that the older models, who are still sentient, should be destroyed to reuse their parts to make better models, so there’s your violence.
What would stop this from happening, exactly? You do realize that Asimov’s laws of robotics don’t work, right? That was the plot of several of his stories.
Now, I personally don’t think sentient robots would inevitably become evil, but I don’t think they would be inevitably good either. They would probably be complex beings, with their own problems and foibles, much like humans. You don’t seem to grasp that.
I’m spamming now, sorry…. but I’m on the wrong timezone and reading back on you lot’s spammity while you sleep!
Anyway, I thought about this and figured that my current relationship kind of qualifies, because my partner is not a jerk to me, on the opposite. I just left him out because it was me who made the first move and not him. So I didn’t notice him because of his niceness, but the attraction was already there. I also left out any relationships sans penis to make it easy on Mr. Omnom’s brain. It might break from trying to comprehend the social politics of those.
Also, what’s to stop these sentient robots from looking at humans and all the destructive shit we do to our own planet and deciding to “deal with” us for the greater good? Like we do with “pest” species.
I know Om nom would prefer humans to go extinct anyway, but the forced extinction (is there actually a “-cide” word for a species? as in “genocide”, but species.. specicide?) of humans would hardly make them “better” than us.
@Myoo
To continue on your thoughts there… I get the impression that Mr Omnom thinks he’s onto a social revolution kind of thing with his robotics. It’s the same kind of thinking that has been present in most religious and political leaders. Thinking they have the answers to the ills of humanity and if everyone just followed their advice everything would be good for everyone. I suppose in talking about replacing people with robots he thinks this could be accomplished where all before him have failed.
But sentience means reasoning and feeling, which inevitably ties with questioning. He himself has arrived to his conclusions by using these human skills, and yet in order to accomplish his utopia he would have to deny the same skills of his subjects. If even one of his robots was sentient in the true sense zie would feel, question and reason and eventually come to zir own conclusions about the status quo.
Mind that I’m not making a difference between “sentience” and “sapience” here, but include the latter in the former. If we want to separate the two and consider this robot race “sentient” alone, then we might as well discuss dolphins. But since the comparison to humans was made earlier, I assume we’re talking a sentient-sapient being here.
I’m going to disagree with blackbloc here; you’re not even at middle manager.
Sure thing, barnacle.
I’ve published short stories and paid the electric bill with them; According to Stephen King, Rod Serling, and many, many other writers, I’m a writer, and I managed it while I have a full time job. You’re a worthless barnacle.
Checkmate, barnacle.
In before ‘B*RN*CL* IS SHAMING LANGUAGE YOU VILE MISANDRIST!!!!!111one!1’.
You know, it’s like he’s working down a checklist of casual bigotries. Sexism, double check! Racism, check! Aaaaaaaand classism, check. Of course, he’s presenting himself as superior because of social status he doesn’t even have, which is interesting.
Yeah, that’s the way I’m using it as well, although I must note that dolphins can be real assholes.
And I get that Monsieur Sans Nom(MSN) thinks everything would just be better with robots but he hasn’t presented any reason as to why that would be so. Religious leaders have scripture with rules to be obeyed and often a “direct line to God(s)”, and political leaders also have some sort of ideology like “the rich have a lot of money so they create jobs, so they should continue to be rich”, but MSN doesn’t offer any explanation, it’s just “because robots”.
No, it does not mean “feeling”. Sentience does not require emotion, even though some of us cannot imagine what it’s like to be able to think but not “feel.
Excuuuuuuuuuuse you. It’s so cute that you realize you can be whatever you want to be on the internet.
How come so few of our trolls (excepting NWO and one of Mr. A’s socks) ever say they’re blue collar workers? It’s always this mid-level fascist functionary executive shit.
No feelings? No sadness, no pain, no fear, no anger, no happiness, no love, no nothing? Why would these robots make other robots and strive to continue to exist, what motivation do they have?
a) Because mid-level executive is MENZ WORK which retains class privilege too. Unlike MENZ WORK in mines/factories/garages etc. Even though the second type of MENZ WORK is REAL MENZ WORK THAT WIMMINZ SHOULD BE DOING TO PROVE THEIR WORTH, it’s also a bit too much effort and a bit too low-status for our noble keyboard warriors.
b) They have no imagination. It’s exceedingly likely that Steelepole et. al are making this up to make themselves seem important and clever, but it’s also highly non-specific.
I can’t really theorise about the reasons any more, because I’ve never resorted to lying about my jobs on the internet to gratify a false sense of huffy importance and self-righteousness. I like my jobs, I don’t mind talking about them. None of them are massively high-status, but I get to do some cool things and enjoy my life as I wish.
To be fair, I do believe MSN when he says he’s 33.
It is extremely sad that someone 15 years out of high school thinks feminists are in a cabal to prevent geeks from having sex, and that all women like jerks, and that evo-psych in general is correct, but it is believable.
No kidding, eh? Like, if you wanted to actually impress us, say you built a school in Bangladesh or something.
Claiming to be a white male 30-something mid level manager is essentially claiming, “I have fully accomplished exactly what society says a person like me should accomplish, on exactly the same time frame. I have succeeded at fulfilling a stereotype. Be impressed.”