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More terrible MRA thoughts on Sally Ride

Sally Ride, not thinking about boys.

We’ve already heard from the so-called Thinking Housewife on the subject of Sally Ride. Meanwhile, over on The Spearhead, the regulars also have opinions about Ride. Regular commenter Keyster has this to say about Ride’s work in promoting science and technology education for girls:

She was supposed to have inspired a generation of girls to take science and math. While she may have inspired the “Grrl Esteem” movement, very few girls went on to get degrees in math and science as a result of Sally Ride … .

She was frustrated by the fact young girls were very interested in math and science initially, “…but for some reason we lose them around the age of 13.” MMmmm…I wonder why that would be. Because they discovered an interest in boys? Not surprisingly, Sally was able to keep her interest.

That’s right: girls are incapable of thinking about both math and boys. Lesbians are the only women who can sustain an interest in math, because their brains aren’t cluttered with thoughts of Justin Bieber. (Ok, bad example.)

In another comment, Keyster expresses his annoyance at the fact that Ride turned out to be capable of astronautery despite being a woman.

Sally Ride proved that a woman can have “the right stuff”, like Amelia Earheart proved a woman can fly long distances.

OK so now that we know she won’t become hysterical during her period while in outerspace and allow her used tampons to clog the toilet, what do we do with this information? Just because a woman accomplishes something normally associated with men, is this inspiring young girls to spontaneously excel en masse and compete against men in male dominated arenas? Or are women like Sally Ride the exceptions that prove the rule?

You know, “exceptions that prove the rule” aren’t actually a thing. The fact that Ride was a capable astronaut doesn’t actually “prove the rule” that women aren’t capable as astronauts, but instead suggests that this particular rule is not a real rule. You would think that Keyster, as a logical male, would understand this.

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RubyHypatia
RubyHypatia
12 years ago

I’m sure women will continue to make progress in the fields of math and science. I mean, look how far we’ve come in the past few decades.

Sharculese
12 years ago

oh god lol

howardbann1ster
12 years ago

Oh, Nommie, Nommie, Nommie. You really are transparently bad at this.

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

I’d like to think of myself as a Stalinist, actually.

All our trolls lately seem to be such tryhards.

You gotta keep it subtle, dude! If you go straight to “and feed kittens to Hitler” you lose all your troll cred.

howardbann1ster
12 years ago

Ruby’s comment is deliciously out of context. I almost feel sorry for her.

(thinks about it for a second)

Almost.

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

However, I personally tend to favor authoritarianism since I believe that people in general need to be controlled and when they are free, they used their freedom to be destructive and hurtful to others. I’d like to think of myself as a Stalinist, actually.

Om Nom, I can only assume you’re being ironic here.

howardbann1ster
12 years ago

@Ugh: I know, right?

fembot
12 years ago

@Dani Alexis

Thank you for the explanation. That makes sense. Of course, MRAs are still doing it wrong.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

Is it just me, or is calling yourself a “transhumanist” pretty much 100% correlated with being an over-privileged hateful twerp? I have no idea why this is, but I for real have never seen it otherwise.

I’m pretty sure that 99% of transhumanist “activism” involves going on the internet to tell actual activists that grievances problems aren’t a big deal.

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
12 years ago

Om Nom, I can only assume you’re being ironic here.

You’re wrong about that. I meant ever word when I said that I have authoritarian beliefs.

Sharculese
12 years ago

All our trolls lately seem to be such tryhards.

was there any chance that the dude who goes by ‘monsieur sans nom’ wasn’t going to be a tryhard?

fembot
12 years ago

The most talented women in math and science have some degree of masculine personality traits.

Any woman who demonstrates any sort of success, intelligence, competency, or interest in any area other than mothering, housekeeping, and looking sexy, is by default exhibiting masculine personality traits.

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
12 years ago

over-privileged

LOL! If you knew anything about my personal life(offline) and how people treat me you’d eat those words, my friend.

Those who are underprivileged have far more of an incentive to hate the world than those with excessive privilege.

Sharculese
12 years ago

Is it just me, or is calling yourself a “transhumanist” pretty much 100% correlated with being an over-privileged hateful twerp? I have no idea why this is, but I for real have never seen it otherwise.

you have to have no actual problems to worry about before you can start thinking ‘wouldnt it be cooler if i was a five-dimensional sex robot’

Sharculese
12 years ago

LOL! If you knew anything about my personal life(offline) and how people treat me you’d eat those words, my friend.

do you behave like a titanic asshole offline too, dude? because that might explain it…

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

Eh, I think it would be cool if I was a five-dimensional sex robot.

However, I recognize that current technology is nowhere near that and I don’t have the skillset to advance it much, so I don’t spend a whole lot of time or commit a lot of my ego to wanting to be a five-dimensional sex robot.

howardbann1ster
12 years ago

Wait, Nommie, your first thought on the subject of privilege is HOW PEOPLE TREAT YOU??? You mean the people throwing you in jail allatime, right? Because… privilege is not just about how folks treat you, ya know.

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

And if I did really, really badly want to be a five-dimensional sex robot, I’d spend more time studying electrical engineering and computer science and robotics, less time arbitrarily deciding which of women’s traits were really secret man traits.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

Those who are underprivileged have far more of an incentive to hate the world than those with excessive privilege.

Statistically untrue. Financial stability and income are negatively correlated with morality.

http://www.dailycal.org/2012/02/28/rich-people-are-more-likely-to-behave-unethically-study-finds/

Most people who “hate the world,” statistically speaking, are hyper-priveleged people who expect the world to give them everything and then get angry when it doesn’t.

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
12 years ago

do you behave like a titanic asshole offline too, dude?

No, actually. Just on the internets! :p

You see kid, in your sheltered world, life is always fair in that people are always treated the way they treat others. But the real world don’t work that way. People really do judge you on things you don’t have any control over. If you have a non-physical disability, people are going to look down on you, ridicule you, and exclude you. And being male certainly doesn’t help ameliorate this worth a damn. But enough about my personal life for now.

Cliff: 5 dimensional objects are not possible in this Universe. WTF is wrong with a 3-dimensional robot? Humans are 3-dimensional, ya know! 😉

BlackBloc (@XBlackBlocX)

>>>I’d like to think of myself as a Stalinist, actually.

Have you tried the great taste of Fascism? It pretty much fulfills all your needs and you don’t need to pretend you care for working class peons.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

You see kid, in your sheltered world, life is always fair in that people are always treated the way they treat others.

You realize that, if this was true, then people who have admitted to hating half the human race (like you did yesterday) would be at the absolute bottom of the heap, right?

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

You’re wrong about that. I meant ever word when I said that I have authoritarian beliefs.

Actually, Om Nom, I meant the part where you talk about the harm people do to one another, then follow up by calling yourself a Stalinist. Unless, of course, you are a fan of his five-year “everybody dies” plan. In that case, you and First Joe have much to discuss.

Sharculese
12 years ago

You see kid, in your sheltered world, life is always fair in that people are always treated the way they treat others. But the real world don’t work that way. People really do judge you on things you don’t have any control over. If you have a non-physical disability, people are going to look down on you, ridicule you, and exclude you. And being male certainly doesn’t help ameliorate this worth a damn. But enough about my personal life for now.

yeah, im a white dude and i have to say this is the biggest slurry of privileged whining ive seen in a while.

acting like a big baby about it online wont solve your problems, dude.

Sharculese
12 years ago

and granted thats including championship level privileged whiner mikhael varpole