We’ve already heard from the so-called Thinking Housewife on the subject of Sally Ride. Meanwhile, over on The Spearhead, the regulars also have opinions about Ride. Regular commenter Keyster has this to say about Ride’s work in promoting science and technology education for girls:
She was supposed to have inspired a generation of girls to take science and math. While she may have inspired the “Grrl Esteem” movement, very few girls went on to get degrees in math and science as a result of Sally Ride … .
She was frustrated by the fact young girls were very interested in math and science initially, “…but for some reason we lose them around the age of 13.” MMmmm…I wonder why that would be. Because they discovered an interest in boys? Not surprisingly, Sally was able to keep her interest.
That’s right: girls are incapable of thinking about both math and boys. Lesbians are the only women who can sustain an interest in math, because their brains aren’t cluttered with thoughts of Justin Bieber. (Ok, bad example.)
In another comment, Keyster expresses his annoyance at the fact that Ride turned out to be capable of astronautery despite being a woman.
Sally Ride proved that a woman can have “the right stuff”, like Amelia Earheart proved a woman can fly long distances.
OK so now that we know she won’t become hysterical during her period while in outerspace and allow her used tampons to clog the toilet, what do we do with this information? Just because a woman accomplishes something normally associated with men, is this inspiring young girls to spontaneously excel en masse and compete against men in male dominated arenas? Or are women like Sally Ride the exceptions that prove the rule?
You know, “exceptions that prove the rule” aren’t actually a thing. The fact that Ride was a capable astronaut doesn’t actually “prove the rule” that women aren’t capable as astronauts, but instead suggests that this particular rule is not a real rule. You would think that Keyster, as a logical male, would understand this.
Excuse me, Steele, but “irregardless”? Really?
You do realize that it’s not an actual word right? I don’t mean to nitpick, but someone has to counter the MISANDRY!!!11! that kept you from becoming a writer.
…you can’t be referring to your own terrible, failed blog as ‘professional articles’, can you? XD
Irregardless… hahaha. The world has truly missed out on a great writer.
I’m not saying I believe the study, but my major sticking point is the idea that you can pick out criminals just by appearance, not that rapists would be an exception.
? No one here has said you can.
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Also, whatever you say, Steele. Have fun with those people and places. I personally cannot stop laughing at the “excuse me?” bits he prefaces just about every other comment with. I just keep wanting to say “you aren’t excused”.
Excuse me? Did you ever notice how Steele is content to troll here for hours but when someone points it out he suddenly has “places to be”?
Varpole accuses others of armchair psychology when he conducts such exercises regularly, news at 11.
Oh varpole… Are you starting to dance?
Excuse me? It’s nice to see Boobzland’s damn “armchair psychologists” out in full force. I think that the dinner anecdote was, in fact, the only occasion I have openly speculated on Ella’s thoughts. You’re right, I didn’t ask her opinion, but you know, I didn’t talk about it at all with anyone.
In plain English, you made it up. You wanted to accuse a woman of being mythandrist, and you needed something better than your pathetic, and repetitious, bleating on the subject, so you used Ella.
So noble.
In addition, I refer to Ella frequently because she is my best friend and we spend a lot of time together, not to win any particular sort of “credit’ from Boobzland.
One wonders why this paragon of comradeship and comfort took so long to appear in your discussion; but now makes up so much of it.
A cynical mind might think it was more convenient to have a means of trying to divert charges of misogyny (which seems pretty apparent) by holding up this woman you like so much.
Who happens to share your views, on so many things (so much so that you don’t need to ask her opinion, you can just infer it). It’s nice, for you, that she’s not one of those young women making the “pay gap” you were talking about.
I notice that you don’t think she (as you said of Cliff) ought to be paying for you, since women (as a class) are (so you say) making so much more money than men.
It’s shit like that which makes me think you are dishonest as the winter nights are long: well, that and AMBZ.
Random linkage; girl pulls car off father: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/48449955/ns/today-good_news/
I’m sure this is somehow misandry, of course.
Cue the trolls to point out that she wasn’t in physical danger herself, or to poo poo the notion that a woman can be that strong in an emergency situation.
Thing is, women are a lot stronger than they think. We lift and carry sixty pound kids, but often balk at lifting a sixty pound tool bag.
You are not obliged to interact with anyone that you don’t want to. End of Story. And if someone is following you or tries to approach you physically and you find them creepy, you have legit cause to take action to get yourself to safety.
HOWEVER, if someone in a public place who is minding their own beeswax and not interacting with you whatsoever(following is an interaction so that doesn’t apply here) that happens to make you uncomfortable, either deal with your feelings or leave the area! You do NOT have a “right” to get rid of them just because they don’t strike your fancy except on your own personal property. I have personally seen far too many cases of this happening IRL and it’s just not acceptable. The same is true when a new guy gets hired, tries his best to get along, but some sniveling female coworker is uncomfortable around him for something he can’t help so she makes up a story to the boss to get him fired.
I hope you understand. Even if you disagree.
“Thing is, women are a lot stronger than they think. We lift and carry sixty pound kids, but often balk at lifting a sixty pound tool bag.”
Kids are bit easier, they hold on. Though…I think I’ve carried heavier stage weights than kids (then again, 75+ lb kids can frikken walk, get down!)
cool story
I love that Steele is somehow both a terrible enough writer to hamfistedly cram an inappropriate idiom into a sentence yet self-aware enough to realize that he needs to clarify what his clumsy attempt at metaphor is supposed to mean.
Moonz:
That story was amazing! The combination of adrenaline, love and training is indeed potent.
What a woman!
I’m just waiting now for the MRAs to start minimizing it.
Falconer:
I’m very disappointed. Not with you, of course, but with Alain de Botton. I’ve read some of his stuff and watched some of his TV series and found him moderately helpful and interesting, even when I disagreed with him, but this book seems like ignorant, sexist drivel. First he seems to blame sexual problems on one’s parents and then graduates to blaming women. Impotence being caused by men having to please their partners? Where did that little Just So story come from? And is he suggesting that the fact that rape is considered a crime these days means that men have en-masse become impotent? You’re right, NWO would just love it.
Thankyou for posting the link, though, now I know I should avoid de Botton’s book at all costs!
I think I see a little resentment. One wonder if the apparently repetitive nature of it might make the sense that women thinking they are being followed doesn’t have some small basis in fact.
Of course that just might be my confusing a story of Nomless, with a story of Eurosabra’s. Both of whom are PUA defenders. One wonders at the apparent congruity of reaction.
keeping a blog where you write turgid gibberish about how you hate hate hate another blog isn’t really professional.
or do you mean to tell us someone is paying you for that whiny garbage?
write less shitty
sharculese: Stop being such a try-hard. And stop projecting it onto others.
While you’re at it, clean the sand out of your mangina. 😉
More pointless abuse.
Monsieur, you are quickly becoming bad company.
But Buttpole you do hang around here long, you even made a site dedicated to this site. You can’t trick us silly buttpole.
This is for you buttpole:
i see weve moved on to the passive aggressive sniveling section of the program
The problem in that scenario is that the woman is lying to the boss to get someone fired. That doesn’t mean people have to stop using the word creepy though. Creepy is still a good descriptive word for someone or something that makes a person feel uneasy and unsafe.
Also, can you be more specific on “something he can’t help”, because there is a lot of creepy behavior that can be helped. For example, people don’t accidentally make lewd comments to their coworkers.