Oh, you ladies, why do you even bother getting educated – sorry, “educated?” Don’t you know that if you get too educated you might end up marrying some dude who is less educated than you, which is apparently contrary to the laws of nature? Or maybe you’ll end up not getting married at all? The horror.
On The Spearhead, guest poster Lyn87 explains how he dropped some “red pill” knowledge on a buddy of his during a recent outing:
One guy has teenage daughters that he’s planning to put through college. I could not resist inserting some red pill into the mix, so I mentioned that 60% of degrees were going to women, and that women prefer to marry up. Since “educated” women don’t often go for “uneducated” men, a lot of women of his daughter’s generation were on their way toward spinsterhood for lack of “suitable” mates.
So women with education are only “educated” in scare-quotes. But men who are “uneducated” also get the scare quotes, because presumably they are wise beyond their years of formal study.
Alas, Lyn87’s friend wasn’t convinced by this brilliant argument to reconsider his decision to put his daughters through college, which leads Lyn87 to consider the possibility that “that some malevolent group of “Jezebels” is dissolving blue pills into the supply of drinking water.” Lions and tigers and malevolent Jezebels, oh my!
Consider his daughters. I’m sure they are good kids who would make any parent proud. But they don’t live on an island – they live among their peers and within the confines of biological and demographic reality. Even if EVERY one of their male college classmates marries one of his female classmates, a third of those young women will not find a male age-peer who is even her “academic equal,” much less someone with a higher level of education. But not every male graduate will marry a female classmate. Some will marry down. Some will choose not marry at all. Then subtract out the guys who are “creepy,” gay, or otherwise unsuitable, and we are left with a generation of “educated” women who are barreling toward a demographic wall at high velocity.
So women marrying guys with less education, or deciding not to marry at all, is somehow the equivalent of careening into a brick wall at top speed?
Marry up? My buddy’s daughters will be lucky if they can marry “across.” Many women of that generation will face hard choices: supply and demand in the adult world doesn’t much care how “empowered” you were in college. The women of that generation may be able to marry down, but few will want to. They may not marry at all and become wards of the state when they bear bastard children. They may become involuntary childless spinsters. They may go for much older men, but many of them have been through the Family Court meat grinder and must devote much of their effort to paying their exes’ bills.
Or they could end up like a friend of mine, happily unmarried at the age of 40 and dating a dude in his twenties. Or like another friend of mine, also 40, in a happily open marriage with a man a few years her junior and with several regular partners on the side. Or in a committed lesbian relationship.
And why assume that any single woman older than, oh, 25 is “involuntarily childless?” Most of the women I hang out with don’t want kids. They really, really don’t.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Lyn87, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
We know the score here: the degrees these girls are getting cluster in the “Who are you trying to kid?” category. They are not truly superior to the guys of their generation, but that degree in “You Must Be Joking!” makes them think they are. Most emerge from college with a pile of debt, no marketable skills they didn’t already possess in high school, and a few laps around the carousel – older but no wiser, and blissfully unaware that half of their years of prime beauty and fertility are already in the rear-view mirror.
Ugh. This again? At the age of 22 or so, “half of their years of prime beauty and fertility” are gone? Really? Their biological clock starts ticking at the age of, what, 16?
So instead of going to college, girls should be getting hitched before they even graduate from high school, so as to maximize their prime years of beauty and fertility? Sorry to have to break this to you, Lyn87, but that’s a recipe for disaster — even by “traditionalist” standards. According to a 2001 study by the Centers for Disease Control, nearly half of those who marry before they’re 18 divorce within ten years; that’s twice the divorce rate of those who wait until they’re at least 25.
Lyn87, somehow I suspect your buddy with the teenage daughters is doing a better job of looking out for their best interests than you are.
Some, er, “highlights” from the comments.
Kendoka seconds Lyn87’s concerns:
I question the popular wisdom of fathers relinquishing custody and authority over their 18 year old daughters by putting them through an institution designed to indoctrinate and create entitled promiscuous feminist careerist harpies and not loving wives and mothers through marriage.
A Father’s work is not complete until he has guided his daughter directly into marriage with his authority transfered to her husband. “Careers” can wait. Family cannot.
DruidV shares his less-than-fond memories of life in the 1980s, and offers a note of optimism for the future (for dudes anyway):
Way back in prehistoric times, say around 1985, I used to find myself very depressed when I would take note of all the foolish and desperate males I knew, who were jumping through impossible hoops for fickle females that just would let the poor bastards continue to keep right on jumping through those hoops, apparently just for their own entertainment. These twats seemed to take an almost sociopathic delight in this ‘sport’. The males were simply trying to be accepted.
Pathetic, really.Nowadays, I look about and see that young males are sick, tired, disgusted and jaded with these soulless cunts. Make no mistake, the hoops are still there, firmly in place for the males to jump through, but they are seeing less and less traffic every day.
I for one can easily see the females of generation z growing old alone, but for their cats and dying that way too and from what I’ve seen, these bitches can forget about marrying up, or even across anymore. These asshole entitlement whores won’t even be marrying down, in the not too distant future.
YAY!!!
Keyster presents a similarly optimistic scenario for the future — if predicting the apocalypse counts as optimism, which it generally does in MRA circles:
We have a perfect storm brewing of women working, men not, and each one rejecting marriage. In case no one noticed the Feminists started the gender war, and they won. Present day we live with the spiraling consequences; societal decline. Upon the collapse women will be the victims, AGAIN. The survivors will be men with only their own self-interest in mind. The last remnants of white-knightery will struggle to protect and provide, but will be ill-equipped to handle the guilt of failing.
Days of Broken Arrows isn’t quite so dramatic. He merely predicts that the dad planning on sending his girls to college will end up regretting this decision:
[N]ow instead of his daughter someday marrying the guy she met at 18, he’d prefer [her] to be using every orifice when she’s a fucktoy for a line of Alpha males who’ll pump and dump her. And he means that he doesn’t want a son-in-law or grandchildren. Well, I guess that’s all well and good, so long as it’s not “the way it used to be.”
Huh. Do colleges even have classes any more, or is it just one long orgy? How do these Alpha males have any time to study?
Even the 1950’s were an anomaly. The idea of women marrying up and depending utterly and totally on their husbands was steadily eroding since the late 19th century, when women began to enter universities and work outside the home in significant numbers. Hell, it probably began eroding earlier than that, when legislatures in various countries began repealing coverture laws. The Fifties, with their quaint values, were anomalous and caused, I think, by the aftermath of World War II.
While I haven’t polled my female professors about their love lives (because, yanno, totally unprofessional to do that) I know that at least one of them has her degrees from CalTech and Stanford and is either married to or in an LTR with a man who has nothing beyond a high school diploma. They both seem perfectly happy with this arrangement.
These are just the moanings of pigs despirate to revive a dying patriarchy.
I have a law degree, and I’m married to a college drop-out.
Normally I let things go a bit longer before derailing with animal videos. BUT since David has been neglecting his duty to post pictures of his new kittens for us, I thought I would share the cutest 4 seconds I have seen in at least a week:
A friend of mine’s great grandmother was the first in her family to graduate from a university. She ended up marrying a man who could barely read. And they had six children. But you know, women only marry up, so it didn’t happen.
@cloudiah
Yes, David, where are teh kitties?
We want kitties! We want kitties!
I have a master’s in math, and I married a guy who went into the Navy instead of go to college. My relationship before that was with a guy getting his math PhD, hailed as a whizkid, and was heading towards ‘great things.’ He was a dick. I dumped him.
So much for marrying up.
I like how the still screen of that video has the wombat flying.
It’s the famous hover-wombat model.
Has any semblance of an explanation for the cause-and-effect relationship MRAs seem to attribute to ‘people stop getting married therefore apocalypse’ ever been given?
(I haven’t slept in longer than is generally considered healthy, so I apologize for my wonky structures.)
But Jessonian, men have the right to be dicks! Who are they going to marry if you have the power to choose?
Also, I remember my very sexist dad, who was normally proud that I was smart, say it was a shame that I was going to have such a hard time finding someone to marry when I grew up, since “women should marry men who are smarter than they are.” This was in the early ’70’s. Even he figured out that was bullshit before the end of the decade.
HOVER WOMBAT!
In case of non-hypergamous women, break glass, take red pill, and shut your ears.
Asoldlace – There’s often an undertone of “we’ll run out of white babies!” I suspect that’s the real “demographic brick wall”–not that the human race goes extinct, but that the “right” people aren’t breeding.
The MRA showing again that their issue is not with women being gold diggers, their issue is with women being *efficient* gold diggers. A proper woman should be buyable but not expensive, and it certainly cannot leave your household any more than your table would, or question your demands or needs any more than your sound system would.
Sorry if you’ve seen it a thousand times, but it never gets less relevant 🙂
I know these asshats from Spearhead, A Voice for Men and Reddit are fun to spotlight here, but why no quotes from http://ncfm.org/. I think they’re the longest running MRA group.
Asoldlace, I’m pretty sure there’s a good bit of racism behind the idea. As in: there may be plenty of babies being born in the world (in the US for that matter), but not enough white babies.Too few white babies means the end of civilization as we know it. And single moms aren’t acting like proper white people, so…
I see Cliff beat me to it!
women are stupid and bad at things. therefore, once women have taken over the planet, which they will somehow pull off despite being stupid and bad at things, everything breaks.
then the spearheaders use the knowledge they gained from years of complaining about women on the internet to somehow lead the way into a glorious new dawn where they totally get revenge on everyone who ever laughed at them.
Women tend to marry up in average (citation needed*) so women who are ‘up’ can’t marry? That’s stupid, it just mean (at ‘worst’) they’re more likely to marry ‘down’, not marry less.
Is it okay to get educated if you’re gay?
ncfm says fewer patently absurd things so it tends to be less ripe for mockery, but theyve been featured here before
and actually this hot mess looks pretty deserving
http://ncfm.org/2012/07/news/domestic-abuse-violence/what-is-domestic-violence-anything-your-heart-desires-honey-a-word-of-wisdom-to-an-american-male/
I’m not familiar with ncfm, but the thankfully now-deceased Bobstruth blog was around for a number of years and was the source of the most hateful,bigoted, racist, homophobic, fill-in-the-trigger site I ever found. I don’t know what shut it down, but it made the interwebz a better place.
@Sharculese Thanks for the link. I know some MRA sites are listed as hate groups by SLPC, but I didn’t see ncfm on it. Maybe an oversight.