Oh, you ladies, why do you even bother getting educated – sorry, “educated?” Don’t you know that if you get too educated you might end up marrying some dude who is less educated than you, which is apparently contrary to the laws of nature? Or maybe you’ll end up not getting married at all? The horror.
On The Spearhead, guest poster Lyn87 explains how he dropped some “red pill” knowledge on a buddy of his during a recent outing:
One guy has teenage daughters that he’s planning to put through college. I could not resist inserting some red pill into the mix, so I mentioned that 60% of degrees were going to women, and that women prefer to marry up. Since “educated” women don’t often go for “uneducated” men, a lot of women of his daughter’s generation were on their way toward spinsterhood for lack of “suitable” mates.
So women with education are only “educated” in scare-quotes. But men who are “uneducated” also get the scare quotes, because presumably they are wise beyond their years of formal study.
Alas, Lyn87’s friend wasn’t convinced by this brilliant argument to reconsider his decision to put his daughters through college, which leads Lyn87 to consider the possibility that “that some malevolent group of “Jezebels” is dissolving blue pills into the supply of drinking water.” Lions and tigers and malevolent Jezebels, oh my!
Consider his daughters. I’m sure they are good kids who would make any parent proud. But they don’t live on an island – they live among their peers and within the confines of biological and demographic reality. Even if EVERY one of their male college classmates marries one of his female classmates, a third of those young women will not find a male age-peer who is even her “academic equal,” much less someone with a higher level of education. But not every male graduate will marry a female classmate. Some will marry down. Some will choose not marry at all. Then subtract out the guys who are “creepy,” gay, or otherwise unsuitable, and we are left with a generation of “educated” women who are barreling toward a demographic wall at high velocity.
So women marrying guys with less education, or deciding not to marry at all, is somehow the equivalent of careening into a brick wall at top speed?
Marry up? My buddy’s daughters will be lucky if they can marry “across.” Many women of that generation will face hard choices: supply and demand in the adult world doesn’t much care how “empowered” you were in college. The women of that generation may be able to marry down, but few will want to. They may not marry at all and become wards of the state when they bear bastard children. They may become involuntary childless spinsters. They may go for much older men, but many of them have been through the Family Court meat grinder and must devote much of their effort to paying their exes’ bills.
Or they could end up like a friend of mine, happily unmarried at the age of 40 and dating a dude in his twenties. Or like another friend of mine, also 40, in a happily open marriage with a man a few years her junior and with several regular partners on the side. Or in a committed lesbian relationship.
And why assume that any single woman older than, oh, 25 is “involuntarily childless?” Most of the women I hang out with don’t want kids. They really, really don’t.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Lyn87, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
We know the score here: the degrees these girls are getting cluster in the “Who are you trying to kid?” category. They are not truly superior to the guys of their generation, but that degree in “You Must Be Joking!” makes them think they are. Most emerge from college with a pile of debt, no marketable skills they didn’t already possess in high school, and a few laps around the carousel – older but no wiser, and blissfully unaware that half of their years of prime beauty and fertility are already in the rear-view mirror.
Ugh. This again? At the age of 22 or so, “half of their years of prime beauty and fertility” are gone? Really? Their biological clock starts ticking at the age of, what, 16?
So instead of going to college, girls should be getting hitched before they even graduate from high school, so as to maximize their prime years of beauty and fertility? Sorry to have to break this to you, Lyn87, but that’s a recipe for disaster — even by “traditionalist” standards. According to a 2001 study by the Centers for Disease Control, nearly half of those who marry before they’re 18 divorce within ten years; that’s twice the divorce rate of those who wait until they’re at least 25.
Lyn87, somehow I suspect your buddy with the teenage daughters is doing a better job of looking out for their best interests than you are.
Some, er, “highlights” from the comments.
Kendoka seconds Lyn87’s concerns:
I question the popular wisdom of fathers relinquishing custody and authority over their 18 year old daughters by putting them through an institution designed to indoctrinate and create entitled promiscuous feminist careerist harpies and not loving wives and mothers through marriage.
A Father’s work is not complete until he has guided his daughter directly into marriage with his authority transfered to her husband. “Careers” can wait. Family cannot.
DruidV shares his less-than-fond memories of life in the 1980s, and offers a note of optimism for the future (for dudes anyway):
Way back in prehistoric times, say around 1985, I used to find myself very depressed when I would take note of all the foolish and desperate males I knew, who were jumping through impossible hoops for fickle females that just would let the poor bastards continue to keep right on jumping through those hoops, apparently just for their own entertainment. These twats seemed to take an almost sociopathic delight in this ‘sport’. The males were simply trying to be accepted.
Pathetic, really.Nowadays, I look about and see that young males are sick, tired, disgusted and jaded with these soulless cunts. Make no mistake, the hoops are still there, firmly in place for the males to jump through, but they are seeing less and less traffic every day.
I for one can easily see the females of generation z growing old alone, but for their cats and dying that way too and from what I’ve seen, these bitches can forget about marrying up, or even across anymore. These asshole entitlement whores won’t even be marrying down, in the not too distant future.
YAY!!!
Keyster presents a similarly optimistic scenario for the future — if predicting the apocalypse counts as optimism, which it generally does in MRA circles:
We have a perfect storm brewing of women working, men not, and each one rejecting marriage. In case no one noticed the Feminists started the gender war, and they won. Present day we live with the spiraling consequences; societal decline. Upon the collapse women will be the victims, AGAIN. The survivors will be men with only their own self-interest in mind. The last remnants of white-knightery will struggle to protect and provide, but will be ill-equipped to handle the guilt of failing.
Days of Broken Arrows isn’t quite so dramatic. He merely predicts that the dad planning on sending his girls to college will end up regretting this decision:
[N]ow instead of his daughter someday marrying the guy she met at 18, he’d prefer [her] to be using every orifice when she’s a fucktoy for a line of Alpha males who’ll pump and dump her. And he means that he doesn’t want a son-in-law or grandchildren. Well, I guess that’s all well and good, so long as it’s not “the way it used to be.”
Huh. Do colleges even have classes any more, or is it just one long orgy? How do these Alpha males have any time to study?
I can spin, and knit (some). I know who to make rope (from things like, “New Zealand Flax), and I can graft trees, and make pickles, and sauerkraut and kimchees. I know how to ride, and train a horse to saddle. I can make fire without matches, or steel. I can make fishhooks from bones, and do more than trivially basic first aid. I know how to make pots from bark and purify water without fire.
I know the theory of making glass, and I know how to make a kiln.
And, as I said before, I have books.
I’m waiting for the troll response to this.
“Yeah, well, I know how to call for pizza delivery, so I win!”
Yeah I can call for delivery, and sew (and bake, but I suspect pecunium’s got me beat on that) — other than knowing how to RTFM, I’m kind of screwed here I think.
I’m also half way decent at “that berry is edible, that one isn’t”, but idk if that counts (wild blueberries are amazing though)
I can knit (hats, bags and scarves mostly), mend clothes (self taught, so a bit crude, but durable), I was pretty good with a bow when we did archery in high school, and I’m a fair hand with a foam sword, which is a start, I guess.
Oh, and I have a lot of experience chopping an stacking firewood.
And felling trees in general, come to think of it. I could be the woodcutter. 🙂
What the hell pecunium? Got a TARDIS over there?
@captain bathrobe
Absolutely not!! Slimer is way too awesome to be associated with those concentrated balls of dull!
*that concentrated ball of dull
Though I think I should immunize him from association with any other MRA dickwads too
I can organize Pecunium’s books, as well as any other information resources. [cloudiah realizes her skills are not well-suited to a post-apocalyptic environment, and goes back to reading Rex Libris where librarians are superheroes.]
“What the hell pecunium? Got a TARDIS over there?”
And if you, can I please borrow it? I promise not to break anything important (maybe for a few years? Apprenticing back when that meant something would be frikken’ awesome)
Idk if it counts as a D&D skill, but I can paint.
Argenti, we will always need good painters.
If you were to ask me, I’d say we’ll always need librarians as well.
cloudiah — well if painting counts as a useful skill, I don’t see why organizing information wouldn’t — it’s all well and good to have a collection of info, but lot of good it does if you can’t find the info you need. And Ruby disgraces Hypatia’s name, preserving information is Very Important. Which isn’t even touching the loss of the library of Alexandra…
Ninja’ed while poking the info on the library of Alexandra!
Ironically, someone will need to know where Dracula is being stored, thus librarians = important.
I would never put Dracula into remote storage. Dracula is put into the reference collection for everyday use. 🙂
Sweet!
BTW anyone can start a free library.
Oh man, that is awesome.
See, pecunium would be perfect for town bard. At least in D&D, bards are the embodiment of “jack of all trades” – in the good sense (along with some kind of entertainment-based ability, like an instrument, and lots of knowledge). Sounds exactly right. 😛
Argenti: Painting would be a skill in D&D, it would come under “Craft”.
I don’t think you understand how predictable YOU sound. You think you’re the first misanthrope out there? Kafka and Johnny the Homicidal Maniac beat you to it and were less obnoxious about it too. Yes, humans are flawed. Yes we fuck up a lot. And to some small extent, we can be predictable. For example in times of crisis, there will be riots and looting, but most people will stick close to their families and loved ones.
Nothing wrong with a healthy dose of realism or “misanthropy.” I’d take someone who errs on the side of negativity over those who are disgustingly positive about everything. But you take it to the fucking extreme. What makes you so special to think you know what’s best for humanity? what makes you so smart to think we would do best to be replaced by machinery? Humans have fucked up in many ways, but we’ve also advanced in many ways too. Just look at technology, look at how we treat others. Many countries are getting closer to something resembling equality. It’s the people who believed we were capable of more that caused these changes to happen. Also think about it this way, if those people were so positive, they wouldn’t try to change anything because it’s doubtful that they would actually see problems that need changing in the first place. Those who recognize the darker side of humanity find ways to fix it. We’ve come a really long way and its by no means perfect but if we were so hopeless we’d still be clubbing each other over the head and living in caves.
Also for someone who has no more sympathy for women than for men, you sure do focus the most one how much women suck.
Of course Nomface exhibits more common sexist stereotypes. Women are stupidly happy and positive bimbos with shiny happy rainbows and la-dee-da. Yet show a woman who’s either negative, sarcastic or depressed and it’s all stupid female with her female emotions acting all sad and moody for attention. Probably on the rag amirite? Also what a bitch! sarcasm is for the menz only!
As Rutee said, when women act a certain way it’s because they’re women, even if one woman acts in a completely different way from another woman. When men act a certain way it’s examined as that man as an individual. It’s all about him as person, with unique characteristics whether they be positive or negative. What he does doesn’t reflect on men as a whole. Does anyone ever question men’s leadership even though some of them have committed atrocious things throughout history? nope. Cuz men are people!
Um, Quackers, plenty of happy positive women are exceedingly sarcastic. In fact, sarcasm is FAR more common in women then in men!
I don’t notice women being happier than men, but I definitely notice them having a tendency to be more positive in their overall outlook. Cynical, negative women do exist but sadly they are rare.
I do this deliberately to counter all the focus on how much men suck(in our society).
I have. And I can already see technology surpassing humanity.
Why do you believe that I think I’m the first and only misanthropist? Of course there were those who came before me! And hopefully there are those who share my beliefs.
I’m sure the exponential growth in technology had nothing whatsoever to do with the exponential growth in humanity’s population.
Which is why they run it. As I said, ‘in practice, a misanthrope is always a misogynist first’.
Citation needed.