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The Spearhead: “Educated” women are destined for spinsterhood and misery

No one will ever love her.

Oh, you ladies, why do you even bother getting educated – sorry, “educated?”  Don’t you know that if you get too educated you might end up marrying some dude who is less educated than you, which is apparently contrary to the laws of nature? Or maybe you’ll end up not getting married at all? The horror.

On The Spearhead, guest poster Lyn87 explains how he dropped some “red pill” knowledge on a buddy of his during a recent outing:

One guy has teenage daughters that he’s planning to put through college. I could not resist inserting some red pill into the mix, so I mentioned that 60% of degrees were going to women, and that women prefer to marry up. Since “educated” women don’t often go for “uneducated” men, a lot of women of his daughter’s generation were on their way toward spinsterhood for lack of “suitable” mates.

So women with education are only “educated” in scare-quotes. But men who are “uneducated” also get the scare quotes, because presumably they are wise beyond their years of formal study.

Alas, Lyn87’s friend wasn’t convinced by this brilliant argument to reconsider his decision to put his daughters through college, which leads Lyn87 to consider the possibility that “that some malevolent group of “Jezebels” is dissolving blue pills into the supply of drinking water.” Lions and tigers and malevolent Jezebels, oh my!

Consider his daughters. I’m sure they are good kids who would make any parent proud. But they don’t live on an island – they live among their peers and within the confines of biological and demographic reality. Even if EVERY one of their male college classmates marries one of his female classmates, a third of those young women will not find a male age-peer who is even her “academic equal,” much less someone with a higher level of education. But not every male graduate will marry a female classmate. Some will marry down. Some will choose not marry at all. Then subtract out the guys who are “creepy,” gay, or otherwise unsuitable, and we are left with a generation of “educated” women who are barreling toward a demographic wall at high velocity.

So women marrying guys with less education, or deciding not to marry at all, is somehow the equivalent of careening into a brick wall at top speed?

Marry up? My buddy’s daughters will be lucky if they can marry “across.” Many women of that generation will face hard choices: supply and demand in the adult world doesn’t much care how “empowered” you were in college. The women of that generation may be able to marry down, but few will want to. They may not marry at all and become wards of the state when they bear bastard children. They may become involuntary childless spinsters. They may go for much older men, but many of them have been through the Family Court meat grinder and must devote much of their effort to paying their exes’ bills.

Or they could end up like a friend of mine, happily unmarried at the age of 40 and dating a dude in his twenties. Or like another friend of mine, also 40, in a happily open marriage with a man a few years her junior and with several regular partners on the side. Or in a committed lesbian relationship.

And why assume that any single woman older than, oh, 25 is “involuntarily childless?”  Most of the women I hang out with don’t want kids. They really, really don’t.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Lyn87, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

We know the score here: the degrees these girls are getting cluster in the “Who are you trying to kid?” category. They are not truly superior to the guys of their generation, but that degree in “You Must Be Joking!” makes them think they are. Most emerge from college with a pile of debt, no marketable skills they didn’t already possess in high school, and a few laps around the carousel – older but no wiser, and blissfully unaware that half of their years of prime beauty and fertility are already in the rear-view mirror.

Ugh. This again? At the age of 22 or so, “half of their years of prime beauty and fertility” are gone? Really? Their biological clock starts ticking at the age of, what, 16?

So instead of going to college, girls should be getting hitched before they even graduate from high school, so as to maximize their prime years of beauty and fertility? Sorry to have to break this to you, Lyn87, but that’s a recipe for disaster — even by “traditionalist” standards. According to a 2001 study by the Centers for Disease Control, nearly half of those who marry before they’re 18 divorce within ten years; that’s twice the divorce rate of those who wait until they’re at least 25.

Lyn87, somehow I suspect your buddy with the teenage daughters is doing a better job of looking out for their best interests than you are.

Some, er, “highlights” from the comments.

Kendoka seconds Lyn87’s concerns:

I question the popular wisdom of fathers relinquishing custody and authority over their 18 year old daughters by putting them through an institution designed to indoctrinate and create entitled promiscuous feminist careerist harpies and not loving wives and mothers through marriage.

A Father’s work is not complete until he has guided his daughter directly into marriage with his authority transfered to her husband. “Careers” can wait. Family cannot.

DruidV shares his less-than-fond memories of life in the 1980s, and offers a note of optimism for the future (for dudes anyway):

Way back in prehistoric times, say around 1985, I used to find myself very depressed when I would take note of all the foolish and desperate males I knew, who were jumping through impossible hoops for fickle females that just would let the poor bastards continue to keep right on jumping through those hoops, apparently just for their own entertainment. These twats seemed to take an almost sociopathic delight in this ‘sport’. The males were simply trying to be accepted.
Pathetic, really.

Nowadays, I look about and see that young males are sick, tired, disgusted and jaded with these soulless cunts. Make no mistake, the hoops are still there, firmly in place for the males to jump through, but they are seeing less and less traffic every day.

I for one can easily see the females of generation z growing old alone, but for their cats and dying that way too and from what I’ve seen, these bitches can forget about marrying up, or even across anymore. These asshole entitlement whores won’t even be marrying down, in the not too distant future.

YAY!!!

Keyster presents a similarly optimistic scenario for the future — if predicting the apocalypse counts as optimism, which it generally does in MRA circles:

We have a perfect storm brewing of women working, men not, and each one rejecting marriage. In case no one noticed the Feminists started the gender war, and they won. Present day we live with the spiraling consequences; societal decline. Upon the collapse women will be the victims, AGAIN. The survivors will be men with only their own self-interest in mind. The last remnants of white-knightery will struggle to protect and provide, but will be ill-equipped to handle the guilt of failing.

Days of Broken Arrows isn’t quite so dramatic. He merely predicts that the dad planning on sending his girls to college will end up regretting this decision:

[N]ow instead of his daughter someday marrying the guy she met at 18, he’d prefer [her] to be using every orifice when she’s a fucktoy for a line of Alpha males who’ll pump and dump her. And he means that he doesn’t want a son-in-law or grandchildren. Well, I guess that’s all well and good, so long as it’s not “the way it used to be.”

Huh. Do colleges even have classes any more, or is it just one long orgy? How do these Alpha males have any time to study?

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pillowinhell
12 years ago

* hands in the air!*

Shadow Run is awesome!!!!!

I played it quite some time ago. Unfortunatley, I don’t know anyone into RPG in my area and haven’t for YEARS….=(

Helen
Helen
12 years ago

Yay spinsterhood and misery for me! I am single and far happier that way! Off topic but the Spearhead is currently bashing the NHS and the London Olympic Ceremony. Bless their little cotton socks. I never knew before they enlightened me that the NHS only treats women or that the artistic director of the Olympic Opening ceremony was a “Marxist”.
We send people to the “Brit gulag” too. Still I had better go my several hundred cats are mewing for their dinner and my female brain obviously cannot cope with the truth..

Falconer
12 years ago

I haven’t actually played anything since 3.5ed, so I ended up skipping past Pathfinder and onto redesigning 3.5ed for my own “3.75ed”. Only problem is, I tend to do bits and pieces at a time, so it’s still a half finished mess years after I started doing it. 😛

I’ve done AD&D and both versions of 3E.

For a while I was trying to get into GURPS but the thing about GURPS is that everyone already needs to know it, or it’s not fun. Kind of a neat Catch-22, eh?

So, anyway, now I’m back to 3.5.

I’ve also played a couple sessions of Shadowrun. It was fun, but the GM had some problems with some of the terminology. Most people in the game world had an RFI chip known as a SIN (a something-or-other identification number), whereas people who were off the grid and didn’t have the chip were known as Sinless, and as a fundagelical so newly-minted he squeaked when he turned round fast enough, he had a problem with this term.

Because, of course, everything is using the same set of symbols and metaphors and thus a Dungeons & Dragons dragon might very well be Satan in disguise because the Bible refers to someone he interprets to be Satan as a dragon, and the very word “sin” is nearly taboo, to make people feel uncomfortable.

Oh, and when they made that movie where Brendan Fraser sells Elizabeth Hurley his soul, and then gets a talking-to from Ice Cube, Ice Cube’s gotta be a lesser demon because there’s a shot of him playing chess with Elizabeth Hurley where he catches her cheating, so he can’t possibly be anything but.

Fundagelicals are socially rewarded for finding hidden meaning in things, did you realize that? They’re like conspiracy theorists, but for “international bankers” or “Learned Elders of Zion,” read “Satan.”

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
12 years ago

Falconer: Reminds me of the changes D&D went through back in the day because of the fundies. Though at least with that, we got some actual decent names for demons and devils out of it, so I count it as a partial win.

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
12 years ago

Everybody here thinks I’m a misogynist/MRA, but in truth I’m a just misanthropist who has no more sympathy for women than for men. Truly misanthropic women seem to be quite rare. Most women I encounter, both IRL and across cyberspace, have an overall positive view of humanity and revile the mere idea of people being basically mechanical and highly predictable in their behavior(hence the violent opposition of posters on this blog, and feminists in general, to evopsych).

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
12 years ago

@Cassandrasays,

I feel like Owly is really more of an Orc.

If we’re talking Lord of the Rings Characters, I think NWO is more like Ted Sandyman: an unpleasant, self-important person who happily serves Sharky’s thugs, even if it means he only gets to clean the wheels of the mill where his dad was the owner. Also, that scene where Sandyman laughs at Sam for crying when he sees the Party Tree has been cut down? Totally what NWO would have done.

If we’re talking D&D races, I’d say he’s more of a Kobold.

Sharculese
12 years ago

Everybody here thinks I’m a misogynist/MRA, but in truth I’m a just misanthropist who has no more sympathy for women than for men. Truly misanthropic women seem to be quite rare. Most women I encounter, both IRL and across cyberspace, have an overall positive view of humanity and revile the mere idea of people being basically mechanical and highly predictable in their behavior(hence the violent opposition of posters on this blog, and feminists in general, to evopsych).

lol

‘im not a misogynist, just a dude who thinks women are stupid and inferior’

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

Somewhere in my dad’s basement I have a copy of the original edition AD&D manuals–Player’s Handbook, Monster Manual, Dungeon Master’s Guide, and Deities and Demigods. I used to own issues of The Dragon (back when it was called The Dragon) dating back to issue 12 or so, but a friend of mine borrowed them and didn’t give them back.

Why, no, I didn’t date much in high school. Why do you ask?

fembot
12 years ago

Yeah, that’s why the women do the household bills and all the food and household supply shopping in every couple I know — because they are not good at long term planning.

I can’t tell you the number of times we’ve had to have candy canes for dinner and wipe our asses with post its because I couldn’t get the shopping right. 😀

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Everybody here thinks I’m a misogynist/MRA, but in truth I’m a just misanthropist who has no more sympathy for women than for men.

Never thought you were an MRA, actually. But there’s ample evidence that you’re misogynist, what with you constantly singling out women as inferior in one way or another.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

(hence the violent opposition of posters on this blog, and feminists in general, to evopsych)

I’m pretty sure that shit is pretty much universal to anyone with any critical thinking skills whatsoever.

Remember when Satoshi Kanazawa, the world’s most prominent evo-psych guy, “discovered” that white women were more attractive than black women using a panel of white men rating women on a 10-point ratign system? And called that “objective attractiveness?”

Or how about their continuing insistence on the “men hunted, women gathered” model of the Paleolithic, despite the fact that no archaelogists think that was the case?

Like, seriously, you realize that evo psych is just a load of confirmation bias being sold to morons, right?

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Ninja’d.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

Also, I love how 99% of all evo psych models of humans as mechanistic reproductive machines can be disproven by the existence of lgbtq people and the use of contraception.

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

Everybody here thinks I’m a misogynist/MRA,

You spout their talking points, dude XD

but in truth I’m a just misanthropist who has no more sympathy for women than for men.

In practice, that *always* means a misogynist. See: 2 and a Half Men. Women are terrible because they’re women. Individual males suck because those individuals have flaws XD

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

Also, remember that time that MSN says he hates all women (smiley face)? I do, because it was yesterday.

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
12 years ago

If we’re talking D&D races, I’d say he’s more of a Kobold. – Captain Bathrobe

Aww, but Kobolds are awesome! (I’m not the only one who likes Kobolds, am I?) Goblin would be more accurate, I think.

Though i’m still a fan of the comparison to D&D Trolls. I mean, they resist everything you hit them with, cause a massive scene wherever they go, keep coming back when you think they’ve been dealt with (regeneration), and have a very specific weakness.

Kyrie
Kyrie
12 years ago

“revile the mere idea of people being basically mechanical and highly predictable in their behavior”

You’re not describing people, you’re describing trolls. That’s why we have bingos and the such.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

“Also, remember that time that MSN says he hates all women (smiley face)? I do, because it was yesterday.”

Yep, bookmarked it for future reference even.

MrsBennet
MrsBennet
12 years ago

Dear MRA’s, I am a feminist. I also like evopsych. I find it to be a useful tool for understanding human behavior in large groups. Please stop torturing it to death. It is a lot more general than you think it is. K thanks.

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

@Shadethedruid,

If we’re talking D&D races, I’d say he’s more of a Kobold. – Captain Bathrobe

Aww, but Kobolds are awesome! (I’m not the only one who likes Kobolds, am I?) Goblin would be more accurate, I think.

Can we agree on green slime? 🙂

MrsBennet
MrsBennet
12 years ago

Just because women, on average, will take a man’s wealth into account when considering marriage in a society in which men own the lions share of the property, does not mean that women are natural gold diggers. It also does not mean that men SHOULD own the lions share of the property. K?

Just because it may just be possible that in a completely egalitarian society you may find that a higher percentage of women would choose to be stay at home parents then men (at least when the kids are quite young) does not mean that women who work are bad or that a family that chooses to have the Dad as the stay at home parent is bad or wrong. K?

Just because people, on average, are heterosexual and desire to procreate, does not mean that LBGTQ people or people who choose to remain childless should be forced to conform. K?

Just because many women (possibly the majority, probably more then men, I don’t know, I just know that I am one) tend to give their hearts away with their bodies and therefore tend to shy away from casual sex out of a sense of self preservation, does not mean that women who can and do enjoy casual sex should be shamed for it. K?

Evopsych is about understanding human behavior in general terms, in the context of a desire to reproduce, and it is wildly flexible. Feminism is about choice, especially for those individuals that don’t conform. I don’t see how they are incompatible.

pecunium
12 years ago

And Nomless has started to meltdown. He’s upset that actual equality is being demanded. When men have to work like hell to keep up; are expected to be the perfect caregiving parent, and the perfect employees, are penalised because other men might have kids… then you might have a valid complaint, because and end to that is what I want.

Of course I’m not a woman.

pecunium
12 years ago

My partner has a dual BA (one from JTS, one from Columbia). I have no actual degree.

She makes a lot more money that I do.

She and I intend to marry.

pecunium
12 years ago

Shade: I can work a forge, and I can do foundry work. I am really good at sharpening things, and a decent potter.

I know more ways of killing people than most people have heard of. If it has an edge, I have probably played with it. I also know how to train soldiers (the two are not unrelated… 16 years in the Army). I am a very good shot. I like (and am passable at) archery.

I can farm, and I can cook. I am a tolerable maintenance gunsmith (the Army made a point to train me to repair/maintain weapons. I was a unit armorer) and an adequate woodworker. I know how to brew, and can manufacture/work a still.

I’ve dabbled at bowmaking, and have zero interest in fletching.

I can do a vast number of things to a level which is adequate to say, “it works”. If I had to, I could learn all of them levels of mastery; but more than a couple would be more than I could manage.

And I can teach. I also have books.

amandajane5
amandajane5
12 years ago

I can crochet, which I thought was the coolest thing when I first learned to do it – I can take a piece of yarn and make it into, like, a bazillion things, with just a little hook. Knots are neat. I’m a very good shot, archery and riflery, and can cut up and cook a dead thing quite nicely, in several venues. Sign me up?

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