Oh, you ladies, why do you even bother getting educated – sorry, “educated?” Don’t you know that if you get too educated you might end up marrying some dude who is less educated than you, which is apparently contrary to the laws of nature? Or maybe you’ll end up not getting married at all? The horror.
On The Spearhead, guest poster Lyn87 explains how he dropped some “red pill” knowledge on a buddy of his during a recent outing:
One guy has teenage daughters that he’s planning to put through college. I could not resist inserting some red pill into the mix, so I mentioned that 60% of degrees were going to women, and that women prefer to marry up. Since “educated” women don’t often go for “uneducated” men, a lot of women of his daughter’s generation were on their way toward spinsterhood for lack of “suitable” mates.
So women with education are only “educated” in scare-quotes. But men who are “uneducated” also get the scare quotes, because presumably they are wise beyond their years of formal study.
Alas, Lyn87’s friend wasn’t convinced by this brilliant argument to reconsider his decision to put his daughters through college, which leads Lyn87 to consider the possibility that “that some malevolent group of “Jezebels” is dissolving blue pills into the supply of drinking water.” Lions and tigers and malevolent Jezebels, oh my!
Consider his daughters. I’m sure they are good kids who would make any parent proud. But they don’t live on an island – they live among their peers and within the confines of biological and demographic reality. Even if EVERY one of their male college classmates marries one of his female classmates, a third of those young women will not find a male age-peer who is even her “academic equal,” much less someone with a higher level of education. But not every male graduate will marry a female classmate. Some will marry down. Some will choose not marry at all. Then subtract out the guys who are “creepy,” gay, or otherwise unsuitable, and we are left with a generation of “educated” women who are barreling toward a demographic wall at high velocity.
So women marrying guys with less education, or deciding not to marry at all, is somehow the equivalent of careening into a brick wall at top speed?
Marry up? My buddy’s daughters will be lucky if they can marry “across.” Many women of that generation will face hard choices: supply and demand in the adult world doesn’t much care how “empowered” you were in college. The women of that generation may be able to marry down, but few will want to. They may not marry at all and become wards of the state when they bear bastard children. They may become involuntary childless spinsters. They may go for much older men, but many of them have been through the Family Court meat grinder and must devote much of their effort to paying their exes’ bills.
Or they could end up like a friend of mine, happily unmarried at the age of 40 and dating a dude in his twenties. Or like another friend of mine, also 40, in a happily open marriage with a man a few years her junior and with several regular partners on the side. Or in a committed lesbian relationship.
And why assume that any single woman older than, oh, 25 is “involuntarily childless?” Most of the women I hang out with don’t want kids. They really, really don’t.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Lyn87, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
We know the score here: the degrees these girls are getting cluster in the “Who are you trying to kid?” category. They are not truly superior to the guys of their generation, but that degree in “You Must Be Joking!” makes them think they are. Most emerge from college with a pile of debt, no marketable skills they didn’t already possess in high school, and a few laps around the carousel – older but no wiser, and blissfully unaware that half of their years of prime beauty and fertility are already in the rear-view mirror.
Ugh. This again? At the age of 22 or so, “half of their years of prime beauty and fertility” are gone? Really? Their biological clock starts ticking at the age of, what, 16?
So instead of going to college, girls should be getting hitched before they even graduate from high school, so as to maximize their prime years of beauty and fertility? Sorry to have to break this to you, Lyn87, but that’s a recipe for disaster — even by “traditionalist” standards. According to a 2001 study by the Centers for Disease Control, nearly half of those who marry before they’re 18 divorce within ten years; that’s twice the divorce rate of those who wait until they’re at least 25.
Lyn87, somehow I suspect your buddy with the teenage daughters is doing a better job of looking out for their best interests than you are.
Some, er, “highlights” from the comments.
Kendoka seconds Lyn87’s concerns:
I question the popular wisdom of fathers relinquishing custody and authority over their 18 year old daughters by putting them through an institution designed to indoctrinate and create entitled promiscuous feminist careerist harpies and not loving wives and mothers through marriage.
A Father’s work is not complete until he has guided his daughter directly into marriage with his authority transfered to her husband. “Careers” can wait. Family cannot.
DruidV shares his less-than-fond memories of life in the 1980s, and offers a note of optimism for the future (for dudes anyway):
Way back in prehistoric times, say around 1985, I used to find myself very depressed when I would take note of all the foolish and desperate males I knew, who were jumping through impossible hoops for fickle females that just would let the poor bastards continue to keep right on jumping through those hoops, apparently just for their own entertainment. These twats seemed to take an almost sociopathic delight in this ‘sport’. The males were simply trying to be accepted.
Pathetic, really.Nowadays, I look about and see that young males are sick, tired, disgusted and jaded with these soulless cunts. Make no mistake, the hoops are still there, firmly in place for the males to jump through, but they are seeing less and less traffic every day.
I for one can easily see the females of generation z growing old alone, but for their cats and dying that way too and from what I’ve seen, these bitches can forget about marrying up, or even across anymore. These asshole entitlement whores won’t even be marrying down, in the not too distant future.
YAY!!!
Keyster presents a similarly optimistic scenario for the future — if predicting the apocalypse counts as optimism, which it generally does in MRA circles:
We have a perfect storm brewing of women working, men not, and each one rejecting marriage. In case no one noticed the Feminists started the gender war, and they won. Present day we live with the spiraling consequences; societal decline. Upon the collapse women will be the victims, AGAIN. The survivors will be men with only their own self-interest in mind. The last remnants of white-knightery will struggle to protect and provide, but will be ill-equipped to handle the guilt of failing.
Days of Broken Arrows isn’t quite so dramatic. He merely predicts that the dad planning on sending his girls to college will end up regretting this decision:
[N]ow instead of his daughter someday marrying the guy she met at 18, he’d prefer [her] to be using every orifice when she’s a fucktoy for a line of Alpha males who’ll pump and dump her. And he means that he doesn’t want a son-in-law or grandchildren. Well, I guess that’s all well and good, so long as it’s not “the way it used to be.”
Huh. Do colleges even have classes any more, or is it just one long orgy? How do these Alpha males have any time to study?
Neither me nor my husband are particularly good at budgeting money. We are better than we were, and I am better than he is, but still not very good. I think I am better than him because I grew up with food scarcity and having to do without cell phones, tv, internet and a car. I know well which bills are necessities and which aren’t, and what kind of defaults are worse on a credit report. My credit is worse than his because I had scores of doctor bills that were finally paid off after 2 years of tax returns and being hounded by creditors. His credit has to be good because he has a top secret security clearance, so when we were having a really rough time and could only afford to pay one of our credit cards, we’d pay on his and let mine go one month.
I am good at shopping though. Somehow in my head I always spend exactly how much I mean to and the food lasts for the time I reserved it for. I was also really good at making timely food orders for the deli I worked out so we wouldn’t run out of food or have it go bad before it was used up. Reduced our shrink (thrown away product) by 15%.
This is one of those things that I think is a somewhat negative result of privilege. I think most men who are single and self sufficient for a length of time learn to budget and shop, it is the men that go from parents, or college, to being married that have a hard time with it (especially if in a traditional or conservative marriage).
I refuse to do doctor appointments. I might have to someday, but damn it I hate calling them too. Right now the military handles all that, and before the military we didn’t have insurance so we didn’t see a doctor (or dentist).
That’s where I draw the line dealing with a presumably grown-ass individual. Thankfully, Mr. HK is pretty good about his own appointments.
Personal least favorite task I used to do for a former BF…making his lunch to take for work. Then he got this brilliant idea that I should pack up our newborn AND a picnic and travel for fourty minutes by bus so he could have a fresher meal and show off baby to co workers.
That didn’t happen.
He did however, bring a coworker over at four in the morning, for breakfast (which of course I made). “Of course Pillow will be happy to have company, besides, she’ll be up with the baby anyways”.
haha Pillow I feel like a bad wife sometimes for not making my husband’s lunches (or breakfast, hell I am rarely if ever awake when he leaves in the morning). Only because it is something a lot of spouses on the air force base do. However, every time I have made him a lunch he ended up either not really wanting it or forgetting about it and buying fast food anyway. He doesn’t like leftovers, sandwiches or microwave meals so… yeah what am I supposed to do? Sometimes he comes home for lunch but then he often brings his taco bell with him.
I hate cooking, my family is lucky to get 1 meal a day that didn’t come out of a box.
Annnd…I just had a tenant tear my head off because he can’t keep track of his finances and eitheer overpays a bit or underpays a bit so his rent payment seems to change each month. Well, yes it would because we are either crediting his account or adding the small bit he still owes the next…
I keep track of these things, and he’s not. Since when is this my problem?
Joe: So that means every MRA who has ever commented in a less than anathemising way at Eivind Berg’s Blog, or the Spearhead, or Stormfront, or r/mensrights is therefore 100 percent behind everything that has ever been said on those blogs?
Got it.
Have you ever commented at any of those blogs?
If so…
BTW: Do you have anything to say about the parent post? Shall we assume your silence equals assent?
Then again, if you posted on the Spearhead, perhaps we don’t need to ask; not according to the “Rules of Joe” on ideological purity and taint.
@Joe, also, since you’re commenting here, does that mean you agree with everything Manboobz stands for?
Or do WE have to agree with everything YOU stand for, bad apple/whole barrel style?
mah laydee brainz are so confused! oh no wait, it’s just your illogical argument 🙂
The only reason I was making his lunches at that point was because money was very tight and it was far cheaper to make everything from scratch than to buy it premade or from a restaurant. I was thinking of actually making our money last to the end of the month instead of being flat broke and our munchkin catching an infection that needed medicine.
Not that we ever had any of the money I worked so hard to save. He’d spend it on timmies and take out anyways. Or flip when I still had twenty dollars for an emergency that he didn’t know about. Apparently twenty dollars is enough for a woman to spontanously move out on.
Whenever someone says “men can’t do X because they’re men” or “women can’t do X because they’re women,” I find myself becoming acutely aware that what that person is ACTUALLY saying is either “I want to come up with an excuse as to why *I* do not want to have to do X and am blaming it on my innate physical genital set-up” OR “you are incompetent on the basis of your physical genital set-up ALONE regardless of your actions and there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO to change it.”
Silly humans. We are the species with the highest level of plasticity. If we can adapt to live in a fucking tundra and a desert wasteland, some of the highest as well as lowest altitudes, etc, we *can* sure as hell remember when to pick up the dry cleaning and make grocery lists.
Not WANTING to do these things, on the other hand, is a completely different matter.
It’s true that women usually do the grocery shopping and the meal planning.Not to mention shopping for the household supplies. Back in college, I couldn’t help but notice that girls dormrooms where always much cosier and cleaner than guys dorm rooms(which were pigsties). So yeah, women are just better at housekeeping than men. And if HE is the one who has to work all day, then she has to do her part to take care of the house and the kids. Living together is all about division of chores. But quite often it is the MENZ who pay the bills, even if she works too(or she is the breadwinner).
But if you leave the long term planning to us, you’ll find that you’ll much better off overall. 🙂
Absolutely, MSN. You need look no further than the fucking bang-up job men have done with the global economy over the last couple of years.
Joe is claiming to have gone to a top university? Where he apparently learned, among other things:
1. George Orwell was stridently anti-Marxist.
2. All Muslims everywhere speak Arabic.
3. Iran and China are experiencing population booms.
4. The Frankfurt school was actually a Soviet plot to destroy the nuclear family in America. It was also simultaneously a corporate banker plot to destroy all states and implement corporatist rule.
5. Feminism was a CIA plot to strengthen the American government. However, it was also simultaneously a Soviet and banker plot to destroy all Western governments, and replace them simultaeously with Soviet rule and with corporatism.
5. The language of business in India is Hindi.
6. China is sending young men to found mercantilist colonies across the globe.
7. Mercantilism is still a viable economic model.
Either educational standards are REALLY low among British universities, or by “a top university” Joe actually means stormfront.org.
HAHA wow that’s some amazingly direct use of one anecdote to apply to all women everywhere.
Hahaha! Omnom, the only man I’ve had a relationship with who has been able to keep a budget and plan a future is…my dad.
This has nothing to do with being male or female. It has everything to do with being taught good financial skills, critical thinking in those skills and good discipline about ensuring that the knowledge is being put to good use annd that you have a job that meets your needs.
Both my parents know how to plan for the future, keep within budget and both have planned and saved for the future.
LOL! And you honestly think women have no part in that whatsoever?
It’s just too fucking easy for women these days to scapegoat men for the worlds problems as well as their own problems.
“But if you leave the long term planning to us, you’ll find that you’ll much better off overall”
Please define “better off overall”?
And listen Mr No Name dipshit. *I* work all day. In fact I work 12 hour shifts, 24 hours on call for 3 – 5 weeks straight (Not a complaint I freaking love what I do) and you are sitting there trying to tell me I have no ability to long term plan.
Extreme shift work involves a RIDICULOUS amount of planning. From just what groceries I can buy and eat during the time I am home, to making sure bills get paid while I am away (and no, even in 2012 not everything is online pay). I have a fish tank and plants that have self-feeding/ watering mechanisms so I can enjoy some of the benefits of a normal life that others take for granted. When I am home I have to be ready to leave as little as 12-24 hours notice. Can you pack for 3 weeks away to a place that may or may not have working phone or internet on 24 hours notice AND have everything at home take care of itself while you are gone? By the shit you spout I highly doubt it. You clearly have no idea about anything. I realize my life is not the “norm” but it involves a HUGE amount of work and planning on my part to make it work, and this is on top of the actual job I do. So ya dude, you can just STFU and knock it off with the “let the menz make all the big life decisions because the womenz are clearly not capable of such a high thought process”.
Name one.
Oh look! The Book of Joe!
@pillow
That’s just scratching the surface. The base assumptions of his insanely complicated conspiracy theory could fill out quite a few more posts.
Your mom :p
But seriously, the global economy is not controlled by any one person, or institution. It is comprised of thousands of companies and BILLIONS OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK JOBS AND BUY PRODUCTS. Those banks and financial corporations here in the US have thousands of female employees. Just because the CEO is a man doesn’t mean that only men run the company! Publicly traded companies are ultimately oligarchies run by a board of directors, to which more women than you think are members of. There are also millions of women who own stock in these companies(don’t have to be a biz whiz to have a portfolio!)….I could go on. The bottom line: Women are just as much a part of the modern global economy as men are; so blaming men for the recent global economic crisis is so ignorant and pathetically stupid it’s not even funny anymore.
Also Nomnom, as a super I can tell you that the cleanliness of a persons apartment has nothing to do with gender. People are clean, or they are not.
Right, right! Men and women are in the world at equal rates–ignore how those in charge are overwhelmingly (white) males! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, those women are the great and powerful Wizard….
Ah, more unsubstantiated hand-waving.
Add this to Teh Great Book O’Larnin’: Since your typical Wall Street firm has a bunch of male CEO’s and a bunch of female phone receptionists, it follows men and women contributed to the economic collapse equally. (Now, their pay, on the other hand …)