Oh, you ladies, why do you even bother getting educated – sorry, “educated?” Don’t you know that if you get too educated you might end up marrying some dude who is less educated than you, which is apparently contrary to the laws of nature? Or maybe you’ll end up not getting married at all? The horror.
On The Spearhead, guest poster Lyn87 explains how he dropped some “red pill” knowledge on a buddy of his during a recent outing:
One guy has teenage daughters that he’s planning to put through college. I could not resist inserting some red pill into the mix, so I mentioned that 60% of degrees were going to women, and that women prefer to marry up. Since “educated” women don’t often go for “uneducated” men, a lot of women of his daughter’s generation were on their way toward spinsterhood for lack of “suitable” mates.
So women with education are only “educated” in scare-quotes. But men who are “uneducated” also get the scare quotes, because presumably they are wise beyond their years of formal study.
Alas, Lyn87’s friend wasn’t convinced by this brilliant argument to reconsider his decision to put his daughters through college, which leads Lyn87 to consider the possibility that “that some malevolent group of “Jezebels” is dissolving blue pills into the supply of drinking water.” Lions and tigers and malevolent Jezebels, oh my!
Consider his daughters. I’m sure they are good kids who would make any parent proud. But they don’t live on an island – they live among their peers and within the confines of biological and demographic reality. Even if EVERY one of their male college classmates marries one of his female classmates, a third of those young women will not find a male age-peer who is even her “academic equal,” much less someone with a higher level of education. But not every male graduate will marry a female classmate. Some will marry down. Some will choose not marry at all. Then subtract out the guys who are “creepy,” gay, or otherwise unsuitable, and we are left with a generation of “educated” women who are barreling toward a demographic wall at high velocity.
So women marrying guys with less education, or deciding not to marry at all, is somehow the equivalent of careening into a brick wall at top speed?
Marry up? My buddy’s daughters will be lucky if they can marry “across.” Many women of that generation will face hard choices: supply and demand in the adult world doesn’t much care how “empowered” you were in college. The women of that generation may be able to marry down, but few will want to. They may not marry at all and become wards of the state when they bear bastard children. They may become involuntary childless spinsters. They may go for much older men, but many of them have been through the Family Court meat grinder and must devote much of their effort to paying their exes’ bills.
Or they could end up like a friend of mine, happily unmarried at the age of 40 and dating a dude in his twenties. Or like another friend of mine, also 40, in a happily open marriage with a man a few years her junior and with several regular partners on the side. Or in a committed lesbian relationship.
And why assume that any single woman older than, oh, 25 is “involuntarily childless?” Most of the women I hang out with don’t want kids. They really, really don’t.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Lyn87, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
We know the score here: the degrees these girls are getting cluster in the “Who are you trying to kid?” category. They are not truly superior to the guys of their generation, but that degree in “You Must Be Joking!” makes them think they are. Most emerge from college with a pile of debt, no marketable skills they didn’t already possess in high school, and a few laps around the carousel – older but no wiser, and blissfully unaware that half of their years of prime beauty and fertility are already in the rear-view mirror.
Ugh. This again? At the age of 22 or so, “half of their years of prime beauty and fertility” are gone? Really? Their biological clock starts ticking at the age of, what, 16?
So instead of going to college, girls should be getting hitched before they even graduate from high school, so as to maximize their prime years of beauty and fertility? Sorry to have to break this to you, Lyn87, but that’s a recipe for disaster — even by “traditionalist” standards. According to a 2001 study by the Centers for Disease Control, nearly half of those who marry before they’re 18 divorce within ten years; that’s twice the divorce rate of those who wait until they’re at least 25.
Lyn87, somehow I suspect your buddy with the teenage daughters is doing a better job of looking out for their best interests than you are.
Some, er, “highlights” from the comments.
Kendoka seconds Lyn87’s concerns:
I question the popular wisdom of fathers relinquishing custody and authority over their 18 year old daughters by putting them through an institution designed to indoctrinate and create entitled promiscuous feminist careerist harpies and not loving wives and mothers through marriage.
A Father’s work is not complete until he has guided his daughter directly into marriage with his authority transfered to her husband. “Careers” can wait. Family cannot.
DruidV shares his less-than-fond memories of life in the 1980s, and offers a note of optimism for the future (for dudes anyway):
Way back in prehistoric times, say around 1985, I used to find myself very depressed when I would take note of all the foolish and desperate males I knew, who were jumping through impossible hoops for fickle females that just would let the poor bastards continue to keep right on jumping through those hoops, apparently just for their own entertainment. These twats seemed to take an almost sociopathic delight in this ‘sport’. The males were simply trying to be accepted.
Pathetic, really.Nowadays, I look about and see that young males are sick, tired, disgusted and jaded with these soulless cunts. Make no mistake, the hoops are still there, firmly in place for the males to jump through, but they are seeing less and less traffic every day.
I for one can easily see the females of generation z growing old alone, but for their cats and dying that way too and from what I’ve seen, these bitches can forget about marrying up, or even across anymore. These asshole entitlement whores won’t even be marrying down, in the not too distant future.
YAY!!!
Keyster presents a similarly optimistic scenario for the future — if predicting the apocalypse counts as optimism, which it generally does in MRA circles:
We have a perfect storm brewing of women working, men not, and each one rejecting marriage. In case no one noticed the Feminists started the gender war, and they won. Present day we live with the spiraling consequences; societal decline. Upon the collapse women will be the victims, AGAIN. The survivors will be men with only their own self-interest in mind. The last remnants of white-knightery will struggle to protect and provide, but will be ill-equipped to handle the guilt of failing.
Days of Broken Arrows isn’t quite so dramatic. He merely predicts that the dad planning on sending his girls to college will end up regretting this decision:
[N]ow instead of his daughter someday marrying the guy she met at 18, he’d prefer [her] to be using every orifice when she’s a fucktoy for a line of Alpha males who’ll pump and dump her. And he means that he doesn’t want a son-in-law or grandchildren. Well, I guess that’s all well and good, so long as it’s not “the way it used to be.”
Huh. Do colleges even have classes any more, or is it just one long orgy? How do these Alpha males have any time to study?
@NWO- the number of pirates has decreased in an inversely proportionate rate to the increase in number of unwed mothers. Therefore, we can safely assume that if we add more pirates to the world, we will no longer have unwed mothers!
Correlation =/= causation.
Unless you have a clear causal chain that you can provide that actually shows that feminism is responsible for all the evils in the modern world.
@Nanasha
Yes yes yes! And what makes MRAs so ridiculous, pathetic, and entire “viewpoint” lacking in merit, is the fact that they STILL manage to completely fuck up their lives, in SPITE OF having the deck stacked in their favor. Someone else once summed them up as “men who have failed at being men in a men’s world.”
And before some douchenozzle accuses me of misandry, I will say that there are plenty of competent and highly capable men in the world. I am married to one. I need to spell this out for the cherry picking trolls and lurkers.
I am a 24 year old woman in grad school in a loving, committed relationship for the past five years with a man who did not graduate high school. He did not have the same opportunities that I did growing up, but he is a hard working, wonderfully intelligent man. If we do get married, I most certainly wont be “marrying down”. There is more to a person than a piece of paper.
I have a PhD. “Marrying up” might be a bit tricky unless I go for a tenured professor. My partner has a Bachelor’s degree. He’s intelligent and lovely.
Will they EVER let this hypergamy thing go? Isn’t it a old hat?
The ghetto wasteland created by feminism in the black community
If you’re going to accuse some other group of being the real racists, owly, you might want to try sounding a bit less fucking racist about it.
“When will feminism stop being so racist towards these godforsaken, degraded negroes?”
A Smith from any time in the past could walk into my forge
How cool is it that your job means you get to casually throw in references to ‘my forge’? Like so many other people these days, my equivalent is ‘my desk’ or ‘my computer’. By comparison, yours is so awesome it might as well be ‘my hollowed-out volcano with 500 jumpsuited henchmen and a giant death ray’.
Wait, what?
I admit my eyes sort of just glaze over when I see an Owlypost, but I went back and read it again. A racist is accusing us of being racist? Oh noes!
Also, this post gives me a sad. First we had Crommunist awesoming (what? it’s a word..) up the place, then we had an actual real life blacksmith appear for some troll ownage. Then it got ruined. 🙁
(Slight tangeant, but do we have any bowyers/fletchers in the house? I feel that after we’ve had a blacksmith, we need one of those so I can start imagining Manboobz as a small village in an RPG. We have the trolls, after all. 😀 )
I feel like Owly is really more of an Orc.
It’s perfectly crommulent word, even.
I know how to use rapier. Does that help?
@ShadetheDruid — Damn you, now you’ve made me want to play an RPG. No time.
I can fence, and shoot a bow and arrow. And ride horses.
(There’s a reason a friend of mine once described my childhood as being like playing Legend of Zelda irl.)
I’m going for a J.D. My bf finished high school and stopped there. He may or may not attend community college this fall.
Funnily enough, we’re both dirt poor because – shock, I know – the economy sucks for EVERYONE who’s not a rich white investment banker/hedge fund manager.
Yeah, tell me how “women have to ‘marry up'” again.
Shade,
I’m not a fletcher (I don’t know how to make the equipment), but I CAN shoot game from horseback. I can also build a barn and practice animal husbandry on horses, goats, and fowl. That’s got to count for something, right?
Actually, it is WOMEN who live in the present and often disregard the future, and hence are not nearly as good at long term planning as men. The reason being that most women are fickle and capricious by their very nature. 😉
Yeah, that’s why the women do the household bills and all the food and household supply shopping in every couple I know — because they are not good at long term planning.
CassandraSays & Effie: I am a jealousaurus!
I’ve always wanted to learn archery (not so much horse archery, just normal archery).. But learning would require me to actually be a confident social person (which i’m not @.@). I’ve only done it once before at some sort of school camp thing I went to years and years ago.
I’ll have to stick to playing archers in RPGs. 😛
Also, anyone who can do something that wouldn’t be out of place in an RPG (like fighting with olde timey weapons, or an olde timey craft/skill) is automatically awesome.
Yes, my lack of long-term planning skills is exactly why I do the above. It couldn’t possibly be that my husband, awesome as he is, has almost no concept of a damn dollar.
Everytime I’ve picked up a bow, I’ve been lucky not to kill some poor sap standing behind me! My last attempt at archery was actually at a carnival and I ended up firing the arrow into the plushies instead of the target. I still think I should have got the toy I tagged.
Agreed. You brought the noble animal down, it’s your right as a huntsman to claim your kill.
@Viscaria
Exactly! AND, it was the deadliest game of all… Man. (For extra irony it was an Elmer Fudd plushie :P)
im not reading a whole thread of people trying to reason with the nameless bonghit, but this is relevant to my work so i can say yeah, i basically agree. in the battle over federal vs. state power, education is the most jealously guarded fiefdom of the states, to the point where we have a major political party which basically wants the federal government out of education. it is basically meaningless to talk about oregon and alabama being part of the same system.
It’s even true of my parents, who in most other ways are very “traditional” in their marriage. My mother not only handles all of the household bills but balances my step-father’s checkbook because he has a bad habit of not writing anything down and constantly bouncing….well, ATM withdrawals I guess because he uses debit for everything. The other thing that women do in every couple I know is plan for doctor appointments….actually for every type of appointment. They’re the ones who call and make the appointment and they’re the ones who remind their partner when to go in. Actually, the very assertion that women have no planning capabilities is laughable, considering that women have been in charge of the household for the majority of human history.
Well, if you’re going to RPG real life, you’ll need me as a herbalist, or possibly a really talented ladys maid when it comes to embroidery.
“Actually, it is WOMEN who live in the present and often disregard the future, and hence are not nearly as good at long term planning as men. The reason being that most women are fickle and capricious by their very nature.”
Umm wut? I’m pretty certain this is sarcasm with the smiley but address it as if it wasn’t. I’m pretty sure opening an RESP when I was 8 so I could start saving for university may have involved some long term planning (my family did not have much money, I put away birthday money, babysitting money etc until I was old enough to get work). This long term planning which I guess I am not capable of resulted in me finishing uni with <$10,000 in debt. Also, when I got full-time work, I put off buying a vehicle for a year to pay off my loan (interest sucks), then when I finally got a vehicle it was modestly priced with good fuel economy. When I moved to a new place due to my job I got a 1 bdrm apartment in the so-called shitty end of town so I always had some money to put away every month (rent here is EXPENSIVE in all other areas of town). And Low and Behold, after 5 years of my non-existent future planning I own a car (just finished paying the car off) and I JUST bought my first house (by myself btw). I had been looking at houses for TWO years because prices are so high here. Finally after 2 years I found a place I could afford in a beautiful town just outside the city where I work. So, ya living in that small apartment for 5 years and saving up allowed me to put down a decent payment on this house which will now be paid off in 20 years. Yep, I am entirely incapable of long term planning. That’s probably why the company I work for also leaves me in charge of million dollar projects too. They know I have no concept of how how to think ahead.