Over on AskReddit, someone called 478nist has asked a question that has been puzzling a lot of us for some time: “Why is Reddit so anti-women? (outside of r/gonewild anyway).”
I used to think it was just because the large majority of users are men, but it’s not pro-men it’s becoming more and more anti-women.
Outside of the friendzoned crap, any comment that leans towards any kind of talk of womens issues, equal rights etc gets downvoted to hell so it’s not even capable of being discussed. It seems like it’s an US vs THEM mentality more and more. Was it always like this?
The thread that followed is nearly 2000 comments long, so far, and has gotten written up on TheAtlanticWire. The discussion is surprisingly … good? Not perfect — after all, this is Reddit we’re talking about here — but not terrible.
So naturally our friends in the Men’s Rights subreddit are complaining about it.
The legendary AnthonyZarat offers this thought:
MauraLoona, meanwhile, challenges the premise of 478nist’s question, and thereby challenges reality itself:
Legitimateusername also has a problem with Reddit’s alleged surplus of manginas.
Fuckrpolitics_again just goes with some plain old-fashioned misogyny:
The Men’s Rights subreddit, such a reliable generator of self-righteous poop.
Excuse me… their livelihood? These women made their living by getting men to pay for food in restaurants?
I’m impressed… how did they convert this the rent, and the phone bill, and the utilities, and clothes?
Gender is only one variable among many, and it seems to me that we’d best not make sweeping idiot-proclamations that are demonstratably often wrong.
That sounds like very good advice.
I’m gonna take out the bridesmaids/batman and put in dude/jester’s fool, for sure.
http://imgur.com/ycgd7
(Thinks)
Maybe the women sneak the food into their bags and out of the restaurant, and sell it on the lucrative resell market? Via eBay, perhaps? And they do this multiple times a day, thus it can be considered their livelihood?
Steele bingo! Couple of things:
– You have both “m-feminist” and “misandrist-feminist”; nix one, insert dude or jester’s fool
– Swap bridesmaids for whichever wasn’t used above
– Change the Batman one to something like “what are spoilers?” // “refuses to use rot13”?
– “Deliberately ignoring refuting argumants” — it’s arguments, with an e
– Has Steele pulled a Gloria Steinem? That was Joe’s thing last night, I don’t recall Steele doing it.
– You’ve also got vile twice, but so does he, so maybe leave that one (lol, maybe make all 4 corners vile with a note that if he says it 4 times you’ve got the elusive corner bingo)
My former housemate is in her 40s. She has several boyfriends. The one she sees the most, makes about 45,000 a year more than she does.
She has three degrees (a bachelors, a Masters of Divinity, and a JD). She’s ten years older than he is.
But you know, that wage gap… it’s mythical.
As to the reverse: I am self-sufficient, but when I was moving out here my partners and I talked it over, and we figured that what was reasonable for me to contribute to the housing/utilities was about 25 percent. Add in my contributions for food, and it’s about 1/3rd.
But that’s a lot less than 1/3rd of the total costs. When we travel, they usually pick up my tickets.
So who is being subsidised?
Me.
But today, when we went to the Met (we didn’t eat the pictures), I covered her subway fares (because she didn’t have an MTA card) and the woman we’ve had visiting made a donation for both of us.
Who was subsidised?
All of us, of course, are feminists.
I am a successful urban professional, I make a considerable sum, I am in a happy relationship, and I haven’t once taken any handout from anyone.
None of that contradicts: you being a pompous, disingenuous, lying, blowhard is that you’re a bloody spineless git who expected to be handed everything on a silver platter just for having the genitals you have.
The question also arises… who paid for your schooling? Who paid for the vaccines you were given? Who paid for the roads the good which sits in the grocery? Who paid for the phones you use? For the internet you are typing on now?
You didn’t. So you have been willing to soak up all those subsidies.
You vile hypocrite.
Kirby: Steele’s still here? It’s been, like, a week or two since he decided that everyone here was beyond hope, and he wasn’t gonna waste his time here any more.
Well, as he said (and I checked) he only spends a little bit of time here. He fits it in when he’s not too busy at work, or the business he owns, or with the semi-attractive, Ella, or at grad school; or the occasional lectures he drops in on in the English Dept.
It’s not as if he’s doing other things. We just obsess about him, imagining that he posts dozens of times in a single day.
pecunium — dude, where the rest of us have typo faeries, you’ve got a clause faerie — “Who paid for the roads the good which sits in the grocery?”
Actually, maybe you just missed an “and” there…whatever, it almost makes sense. Consider this my excuse to use the words “clause faerie”? (And definitely an excuse to say “dude” in Steele’s presence)
MTA cards make pretty good paint scrapers btw.
This comment brought to you by the letter R, for randomness, and the number 1057, because the antishark broke my brain.
Vile twice was definitely on purpose.
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Pecunium, dude, are you going to let Argenti call you dude? This vile misandrist insult cannot be borne!
Excuse me? That’s some vile, vile dudeing right there.
Excuse me? Why didn’t I think to post this earlier? Must be the misandry, causes memory loss.
Cassandra, truly that is Steelpole’s theme song.
http://leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/see-sue-run1.png
Steelepole, since you are struggling with words, here’s a a few pictures to help you understand the concept of “handouts”
Presumably, by ‘handout’, you’re including government services and benefits.
In which case, I hope you enjoy living in a house filled with decomposing fecal matter, because sewage systems tend to be implemented by the government. Sanitation is a government handout!
I’m pretty sure Steele would go with the normal conservative definition of “handout”, that being “anything someone else gets for free that I have to pay for”. With an optional “waah” on the end.
I’m not sure why people consider “being born in a family with money” an accomplishment.
@ShadetheDruid
Ah, so he’s content to let other people’s houses be filled with turds. Both literally and figuratively speaking.
Argenti: You’re right, I left out an and. I have a speed demon, who encourages my thoughts to get ahead of my fingers, coupled with the imp of, “I know what I was writing” who (for about 24 hours) fills in the little missing words so I can’t see I left them out.
That little beast is what I use grammar check for, but I don’t usually fire up a word processor to do comments.
I think Steele heard us talking in the other thread about how he had been showing signs of not being completely impenetrable to reason and occasionally actually reading what we write and decided to prove us all wrong.
Oh, well.
It would be interesting to see actually how Steele would square “no one is entitled to demand my hard-earned money” with taxes.
Would he hate on taxes? In which case, he’d have to give up everything the government handles for him.
If he doesn’t, but he hates that his taxes go to “handouts” so people can get things he has to pay for, how would he square that with the egalitarian view of relationships where he’s agreed that the person who’s more capable of paying, should?
Tune in to Manboobz Mystery Hour next time to find out!
you misread him. his belief is that the person who’s more capable of paying should throw a tantrum about ‘subsidizing someone else’s food intake’ because he’s against talking like a normal person
Haha. 😛
I’ll save the Troll Hypocrite Traps ™ for when there’s a troll that actually makes sense. Those exist, right?
I think when they start making sense it actually makes it not trolling. Or something like that.
“you misread him. his belief is that the person who’s more capable of paying should throw a tantrum about ‘subsidizing someone else’s food intake’ because he’s against talking like a normal person”
But only if the person making less is cliff pervocracy. A few pages ago he agreed that a person making more should probabky pay more, but he and ella weren’t that way because they made equal money.
Then he realized he was agreeing with us, and devolved right back into VILE EVIL VILE DEMANDING I SUBSIDIZE YOUR LIVLIHOOD!