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JohnTheOther: the Aurora heroes aren’t heroes. KEYWORDS: calculus of death, vagina, drug addled slut

Children: Not worth saving, apparently.

JohnTheOther, blabby videoblogger and Number Two at A Voice for Men, has now weighed in with his own, slightly tardy, manifesto on the Aurora shooting and the evils of supposed male “disposability.” I didn’t read the whole thing – seriously, dude, OMIT NEEDLESS WORDS – but a few things stood out when I skimmed it. For example, this lovely passage, which seems to be a longer and fouler version of that ill-advised tweet from the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto that I mentioned in my last post.

Our mainstream, which is to say, our corporate media – that which bends and fawns for access to the corrupt elected officials and modern robber barons of corporate statehood – is telling you, young man, that in order to be worthwhile, a real man, you’d better be prepared to die without complaint for the child, or the little old lady, or the drug addled slut in the next seat.

But Mr. TheOther is having none of it:

The instinct – expressing itself variously as chivalry or as fatal self sacrifice — is just one more that no longer has any discernable benefit. It is an encumbrance to any real pursuit of a civilized society in which one class of humans is not legally and socially elevated over another.

Sorry, kids; sorry, old ladies; sorry “drug addled sluts” — you’re on your own. Apparently, in a truly civilized society, no one ever looks out for anyone else. Altruism is for barbarians and Bill Bennett!

Here’s JtO’s stirring conclusion:

Those three men are not heroes, they’re just dead. The calculus of death, where one life is traded in celebration for another by preference of a vagina, is pathological and regressive. It must be recognized as the sickness it is. Those who lionized these men, whose fatal and unexamined instinct led to self-destruction; those who held them up as a heroic example to follow, are cordially invited to go first — or to go fuck themselves.

Charming as always, Mr. TheOther.

In the discussion of Mr. TheOther’s post in the Men’s Rights Subreddit, AVFM’s Paul Elam expands on the whole they aren’t heroes” theme, arguing that we need to retroactively strip away the hero status of the three men who died protecting their girlfriends — because they died protecting women.

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Naira
Naira
12 years ago

@blitzgal:

I read that post yesterday. Got kind of a gut-punched feeling. On the one hand, every fiber of my being was shuddering with revulsion. On the other hand, I hope that it proves useful to someone. Either in listening to their gut feelings, or helping them let go of any self-blame or guilt.

nwoslave
12 years ago

@blitzgal
“David, have you seen this? Serious trigger warning. This guy on Reddit describes in great detail about how he is a serial rapist.”

Yes, I saw that as well. Kinda reminds me of the lesbian who feebly tried scratching herself with some slurs claiming it was those bad people with morals who did it.

Happy
Happy
12 years ago

So…

MRA Martyr Thomas Ball shouldn’t be celebrated, by that logic?

Amused
12 years ago

I followed that link and … wow. It’s interesting how this guy structured his story. He began by congratulating himself and going through his resume of accomplishments — his successes, his looks, his charming personality, his community service and so on. Then he described himself as “somewhat remorseful” and blamed his multiple rapes on some anonymous force, “an insatiable thirst”. At no point did I detect even the slightest hint of remorse over what he had done. Although phrased as an educational piece, it seemed more like bragging, like he was reliving his experiences by describing the rapes in graphic detail.

nwoslave
12 years ago

@cloudiah
“What is a little coochie snorcher?”

It’s the guiding light of feminism. The enlightenment. It’s progressive.

howardbann1ster
12 years ago

I saw that link a few hours ago. And I just don’t even have the words for the incredible… ugliness.

Not just him. Those who come out to defend him. That’s what really makes it all taste … institutional.

blitzgal
12 years ago

At no point did I detect even the slightest hint of remorse over what he had done.

Same here. He is extremely proud of himself, proud that he got away with it, and proud that he gets to continue living his life like nothing happened. I abhor violence, but he made me extremely angry and violent-feeling.

WordSpinner
WordSpinner
12 years ago

Reddit: where a unrepentant rapist can brag and be defended. And yet SRS is hated.

Dear trolls: this is what we mean when we talk about rape culture.

Falconer
12 years ago

Do yourself a favor and leave this place and never come back. This is hell.

All right, this is hell. Which bolgia do you go in, NWOSlave? You’re in the Eighth Circle (that’s fraud) but there’s so many kinds of fraud and so many people ol’ Alighieri was angry with that we’re given ten pockets (or bolgias) to sort our fraudsters into.

I can’t decide if you’re in Bolgia 10, for just being a liar, or in Bolgia 9, for sowing discord. So I’d probably let you choose: Affliction with painful diseases in Bolgia 10, or hacked into bits by a demon with a sword for all eternity in Bolgia 9?

And hey, I know it’s violent imagery, but you chose the metaphor when you called this place hell.

nwoslave
12 years ago

Wow, talk about the dumbing down of America. The entire SRS post is totally fake. Personally, I don’t think any of you actually believe it. I think everyone of you want’s to believe it. Pixels on a screen folks, that’s all it is.

cloudiah
12 years ago

And predictably, Owly the pedophile also supports the unrepentant serial rapist. There is no place so low that he won’t just keep digging.

Freitag
Freitag
12 years ago

The Little Cootie Snorcher That Could is part of The Vagina Monologs. Which, for benefit of the reality-impaired, is a work of fiction. Fiction being telling stories that aren’t true. It’s a part of human culture. Stems from the days of sitting around the fire after a hard day of hunting the mammoth and telling stories to pass the time. Fiction is not reality. Fiction is different from reality, inasmuch as fiction is made up.

Sharculese
12 years ago

Yes, I saw that as well. Kinda reminds me of the lesbian who feebly tried scratching herself with some slurs claiming it was those bad people with morals who did it.

owlslave the ‘morality’ thing rings a little hollow when you start describing the eye-popping rage you go into at the thought that gay people exist

nwoslave
12 years ago

Seriously, I’d like a show of hands to find out who believes that story. I’m just curious.

nwoslave
12 years ago

@Freitag
“The Little Cootie Snorcher That Could is part of The Vagina Monologs. Which, for benefit of the reality-impaired, is a work of fiction.”

Nuh uh, princess. It is the be all end all of feminist art. Feminist want it to be in place of valentines days. V-day. It is glorious. the vagina is the new saint.

Tatjna
Tatjna
12 years ago

I really hope the three women who are mourning the men they loved don’t ever have to hear the shit these people are saying. How is it even possible to look at this tragedy and only see it as some kind of warped gender issue.

Shame, MRAs. You suck as people.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

Is NWO on here talking about morality? Seriously?

Seriously?!!

Falconer
12 years ago

Kinda reminds me of the lesbian who feebly tried scratching herself with some slurs claiming it was those bad people with morals who did it.

Are you talking about the young woman who faked up an assault and claimed black Obama supporters had held her down and carved her cheeks up? ‘Cause that’s all I can think of.

Of course, if this is your interpretation of “woman assaulted on suspicion of being LGBT,” keep it up — you ain’t getting out of Malebolge because of the nature of the place, so you might as well keep indulging yourself.

“Coochie snootcher” — oh dear, did you just call someone a performer of cunnilingus? DUDES NWO THINKS EATING PUSSY IS AN INSULT!

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

Yes, the divine command-spewing lackwit is seriously going to try to talk about morality, apparently. He also doesn’t realize that even if the story were fake, the defenders are not. Quelle surprise.

blitzgal
12 years ago

Which story, the rapist or the hate crime? That thread had more than one man come forward and admit to committing rape, by the way. As to the hate crime, I have no idea. I was waiting for more progress to come out on that story.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

Seriously, I’d like a show of hands to find out who believes that story. I’m just curious.

NWO, we all know you don’t believe that rape ever really happens and that when it does, occasionally happen, it’s because the woman deserved it for being desirable. Really. We know.

It sickens us but it’s covered ground.

nwoslave
12 years ago

@cloudiah

And predictably, (denoted as a fact) Owly the pedophile, (also a fact), also supports the unrepentant serial rapist. (The unrepentant serial rapist and owlys support are both facts). There is no place so low that he won’t just keep digging. (Another fact).

Blessed be woman. For only truth falls from her lips. The gift of her wisdom and morals is truth. Pray to the goddess within all women. Amen.

blitzgal
12 years ago

Are you talking about the young woman who faked up an assault and claimed black Obama supporters had held her down and carved her cheeks up? ‘Cause that’s all I can think of.

No, he’s talking about this: http://abcnews.go.com/US/nebraska-lesbian-mutilated-anti-gay-hate-crime/story?id=16846781

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

“Coochie snootcher” — oh dear, did you just call someone a performer of cunnilingus? DUDES NWO THINKS EATING PUSSY IS AN INSULT!

Actually, I think he’s talking about a part of the Vagina Monologues. But NWO is outraged by the idea that anyone, man or woman, engages in cunnilingus. So you aren’t far wrong.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

And predictably, (denoted as a fact) Owly the pedophile, (also a fact), also supports the unrepentant serial rapist.

Stop talking about prepubescent girls in a sexual manner and people will stop thinking you’re a pedophile. It’s really very simple.