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Why do Men’s Rights Activists hate the heroes of the Aurora theater shooting?

Our old nemesis The Pigman — the MRA blogger and one half of the cartooning team responsible for atrocities like this — has some thoughts on the Aurora shootings, specifically on the men who lost their lives to protect their girlfriends from gunfire. Their heroism makes him angry, much like the fellows on The Spearhead we looked at the other day. Here’s his complaint:

How’s that for inequity? How’s that for disposability? These guys appear to have sacrificed themselves for these people primarily because of their sex.

Well, no, I think they sacrificed themselves for their girlfriends because they loved their girlfriends.

After all, where are the guys who jumped in front of their best mate, or their dad or brother? And above all, where are the women who died saving their boyfriends?

There were many heroes in the Aurora shooting. Jonathan Blunk, Matt McQuinn, and Alex Teves died protecting their girlfriends. Stephanie Davies risked her life to keep a friend shot in the neck from bleeding to death. Other acts of heroism had less storybook endings: Marcus Weaver tried to shield a female friend. He was wounded but lived; she died. Jennifer Seeger tried to drag a wounded victim to safety, but fled when the shooter returned.

But the Pigman is interested in none of this:

This isn’t heroism, this is male disposability at its worst and by praising it society is encouraging it.
Cheering these men’s actions is as reprehensible as it is stupid and discriminatory.

The heroes in Aurora acted quickly, and on instinct; they didn’t have time to stop to think. Is it possible that, in the cases of those men who tried to shield the women with them, gender socialization had something to do with what their instincts told them to do? Almost certainly.

But “male disposability” has nothing to do with it. We live in a society in which heroism, as an idea and as a cultural ideal, has been gendered male for thousands of years. In the stories we tell ourselves, the video games we play, the movies we watch (including The Dark Knight Rises) , the “hero with a thousand faces” is almost always male, and the damsel in distress is, well, almost always a damsel.

The Pigman ignores all this, instead attacking the three dead men as

foolish enough and unfortunate enough to fall for a lifetime of anti-male propaganda telling them to die for the nearest woman whenever the shit hits the fan.
Vaguely aware that he may have crossed a line here, the Pigman pauses for a moment:

I have no doubt that many are concerned with the feelings of the dead men’s survivors and wish I would just shut up.

But then he barrels ahead anyway:

But this is a simple case of “What you praise, you encourage,” and I for one think calling out those who encourage  men to waste their lives for people worth no more than themselves is more important than being “sensitive”. Die for a child if you must, die for some guy on the verge of finding a cure for cancer if you must – die for someone no better than you simply because you have been taught to and you are a fool.

Had these men died protecting male buddies, would The Pigman have applied this calculus of worthiness to the beneficiaries of their heroism? Would he have suggested that the dead men thought they were worth less than their friends? Of course not.

The three men didn’t do what they did because they thought they were worthless or disposable. They did what they did because they wanted to protect those they loved. Others in the theater, like Stephanie Davies, risked their lives for friends, or people they didn’t even know. There’s nothing foolish or “wasteful” about putting yourself on the line to protect others. In every major disaster, whether natural, or like this one man-made, ordinary people emerge as heroes precisely because they are willing to put the lives and safety of other people ahead of their own.

Do these real-life stories of heroism play out in gendered ways? Often times they do. Men may be more willing to risk their lives to protect their wives or girlfriends; mothers may be more willing to risk their lives to protect their children.

In real life crises, it’s hardly surprising that people sometimes act like characters in these stories we tell ourselves. If you want to change how people act, you need to change these stories.

MRAs like to pretend that men are the “disposable sex” but in their hearts they know that’s not true. They’re well aware, as are we all, that  our cultural narratives of heroism privilege and glorify men and put them at the center of almost every story. MRAs like The Pigman aren’t  interested in expan ding our cultural narratives of heroism to include female heroes — nor are they willing to even acknowledge that there are such things as female heroes in the real world. They certainly don’t want more stories, more games, more films featuring female protagonists.

Instead they’d rather wrap themselves in the mantle of victimhood, and attack real heroes like Jonathan Blunk, Matt McQuinn, and Alex Teves as “white knights” or “fools.”

How people react in a crises reveals a lot about them. How MRAs like The Pigman, and like the Spearhead commenters I quoted the other day reacted to the Aurora shootings has certainly revealed a lot about them, none of it good.

Unfortunately, attitudes like theirs aren’t confined to the fringe that is the manosphere.

After hearing the stories of Blunk, McQuinn, and Teves, the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto tweeted “I hope the girls whose boyfriends died to save them were worthy of the sacrifice.”

After numerous readers responded to his remarks with outrage, Taranto offered an apology of sorts, along with an explanation that suggested he really didn’t understand why people were angry in the first place. When someone does something noble and heroic out of love, it’s not up to you to second guess their actions or their love. Taranto’s words not only dishonored “the the girls whose boyfriends died to save them;” it dishonored the heroes as well.

Like The Pigman, like the Spearhead commenters, Taranto has failed this test of his humanity.

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aworldanonymous
12 years ago

Things get kind of quiet around here when the MRA trolls flounce, don’t they.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

aworldanonymous — depends on whether or not a fandom discussion ensues (or cats, or knitting, or physics, etc)

Sharculese
12 years ago

You do get that paying employees better generally means less profit right? And that that has little, if any, relation to production?

no, owlslave has absolutely no idea how running a business works

nwoslave
12 years ago

@Argenti Aertheri
“You do get that paying employees better generally means less profit right?”

Exactly. So if a company can pay 77 cents instead of one dollar they’d be fools not to. So in a profit based business world every company would have only women.

“Economics, please learn some.”

I have learned how to increase profits by 23%. A tidy sum to say the least. Why every company hasn’t learned it can increase it’s profits for the exact same labor by 23% baffles me.

Sharculese
12 years ago

also, owlslave you understand that saying things like ‘girl child’ makes you sound like even more of a creep than usual, right

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

also, owlslave you understand that saying things like ‘girl child’ makes you sound like even more of a creep than usual, right

Particularly since you’ve inflicted on us multiple, MULTIPLE posts about your thoughts on girl children

nwoslave
12 years ago

@Sharculese
“also, owlslave you understand that saying things like ‘girl child’ makes you sound like even more of a creep than usual, right”

That’s only because I am a creep. Words fell from your mouth…. gospel has been written.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Aw, come on. Slavey is trying so hard to be condescending, it’s not his fault that the only things he can fall back on to make himself feel superior are his age and the fact that he has a penis.*

* I lie. This actually is his own fault.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

“no, owlslave has absolutely no idea how running a business works”

True enough, but seriously, this is basic 101 level economics here. (And thank the gods for that, economic math makes my head hurt.)

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

Misandry.

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

Is electro house misandry?

pillowinhell
12 years ago

Shhhiiiiittt…

Steeledude, you owe me some serious drinks.

If I had a shot for everytime vile or excuse me was used by THE DUDE, the undertakers wouldn’t have to worry about embalming me.

Fatman
Fatman
12 years ago

Dude, I have not read this whole long thread but dude, come on, dude is misandrist, seriously dude? I tend to filter my Nor-Cal accent out, what with its run on sentences, repetition, over use of the interrogative, and constant use of the word dude when communicating via the written word, but dude, if dude is misandrist, then dude, Nor-Cal is the most misandrist place in the world. Dude, seriously, when we speak we say dude like three times a sentence. Dude, without dude, how could we express amazement, revulsion, joy, how could we greet one another, how could we bid each other farewell? I mean dude, seriously dude, dude is misandrist, dude? Dude?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

If I call my female friends dude when I’m drunk is that misandry too? I’d love to see Mikey attempt to explain how it is.

thebewilderness
12 years ago

It’s only evol feminist misandry when you spell it with two zeros, like this: d00d!

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

DUDE.

Whoa.

aworldanonymous
12 years ago

Dude, those stats are amazing.

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

Dude: “Dude” is definitely, in the context the misandrist-feminists use it (ie, dismissive, unserious) extremely misandrous. This is without question. tautological and pointless.

Fixed that for you.

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

SticksAndPucks: By the men acting as a human shield and having their lives cut tragically short, they where subtlety saying that their girlfriends had more intrinsic value then them.

Nope. It means they, personally, thought those people were worth protecting, in some way.

One can be active in that protection (Rodger Young comes to mind). A soldier jumping on a grenade is trading possible/probably death for certain death, because s/he figures one dying is better than many.

As a soldier that idea is one I’ve thought about a lot. It’s one I had to try accept when I was a driver in Iraq, because my job was to drive, not shoot.

It’s an attitude I had to deal with when I was squad leader in a company of people who were recovering from injuries/illnesses they’d gotten in Iraq, because some had done things to save people, and those people had died anyway, so they had both injuries, and survivors’ guilt.

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

Morkai: I got the habit of saying “Duude” when I was in that bastion of Misandry™ which is the US ARMY.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

V***e hasn’t gotten any limericks dedicated to him yet! Allow me:

There once was a dude called Steelepole;
of his head, his arse was quite full.
He called us all vile,
and for a while—
but did it efficiently, with lots of asspulls.

pecunium
pecunium
12 years ago

Dude: My current girlfriend, who is an excellent individual, was more than happy to go dutch. It was never even questioned. That’s an upstanding person.

Cool. Those of my girlfriends who make more than I do have been happy to pay for dates. Those of them who make less, I am happy to pay for.

This has been the pattern for… about 30 years. My girlfriends have all been femini

amandajane5
amandajane5
12 years ago

This blog is so sickening. Disgusting. Evil. Hypocritical.

I was going to say that this may mean Mikey has actually looked at one of the many references to thesauri he’s been given, but then I saw his two “sentences” before and realized that I’d just blocked out the fact that he’d used ‘vile’ again twice.

How to make words become meaningless, a lesson from Steelebuttpole. Or whoever he’s pretending to be right now, except that he didn’t lie! No never ever ever; don’t you even think it!

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
12 years ago

There once was a twit name of Torvus,
from the ether came forth just to bore us,
he thinks we’re all vile,
but I’ll say with a smile,
he hates, but he just can’t ignore us.

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