We’ve already seen some unusual perspectives on the Aurora theater tragedy courtesy of The Spearhead and the Men’s Rights subreddit. Over on whiskeysplace, the manosphere blogger (and sometime Spearhead contributor) who calls himself Whiskey throws some racism into the mix.
In Whiskey’s view, the whole thing just shows … just how badly treated white men are in America today. And, he suggests, unless we change our evil white-man-hating ways we should expect even worse massacres to come. His basic thesis:
[T]hat an (admittedly crazy) 24 year old White guy with an extremely high IQ would paint his hair red, carefully position his beat up old pickup truck against one emergency exit door, enter through the pre-arranged opened other door, and kill (again as of this writing) 12 people while wounding 58, many seriously, shows how out of hand Obama’s America has become. …
Who is at fault? In no particular order, Obama, the entire Affirmative Action establishment, Jessie Jackson, feminists, the media, and the American people for taking the easy way out and not removing the former from public life through a hard, brutal political struggle that costs time and effort and more.
After a long tirade about “low-IQ” black murderers, Whiskey moves on to consider the life of the (apparently) socially awkward, dateless James Holmes, whom Whiskey assumes was oppressed for being a white guy.
Was James Holmes forced out of the University of Colorado for being too White and male? We may never know. But certainly, being White, male, and applying for science related jobs after graduating with honors led to … McDonalds.
Well, not literally. Holmes didn’t actually work at McDonalds. Very few people with undergraduate degrees in neuroscience do.
So you have a very toxic combination. A man with a high IQ, denied any gainful employment or relationship with the opposite sex. … America has become so debased, so hostile to ordinary White guys, that instead of say, devising his own bat-suit and rescuing someone, this guy figures he’s the Joker, and shoots a bunch of people he has never even met, dead.
And it gets worse, according to Whiskey: The continued oppression of white dudes by Obama, the feminists and, er, Russell Brand, will lead inevitably to more massacres in the future:
The constant demonization of White guys, and destruction of heroism as a model, has real consequences. Guys with high IQs who are intent on killing people are dangerous. They get that way not from “turning evil” like a Joss Whedon character in “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” but because they are turned away from anything positive, socially isolated and alone while a lucky socially dominant few have everything (before he ever got famous, and with a massive drug habit, Russell Brand boasted he was having sex with 80 women a month). These guys study for years, graduate with honors, and end up at McDonalds. Wrong sex and color.
Yes, because so many of those who work in fast food restaurants are white men tossed out of grad school because of their race and gender.
And those massacres in the future? Because white dudes are apparently all so super smart, we should expect them to be way worse than the ones we’ve seen so far. Like, atom bomb worse.
I want to be as clear as possible. The most dangerous man in WWII, was not Patton, or Rommel, or Yamamoto. No, it was nerdy, lanky, unassuming and part prima donna, J. Robert Oppenheimer. A high IQ unmoored by social ties, love, family, relationships, a job that is not demeaning … is a man who is a potential weapon.
Whiskey then brings us back around to Obama and his (alleged) anti-white dude agenda:
If Obama’s anti-White guy policies, the media’s demonization of (particularly nerdy) White guys, and the legal discrimination against most non-connected Whites were deliberately constructed to create guys far more dangerous than James Holmes, they could not have done a better job.
Whiskey has somehow convinced himself, based on nothing, that Holmes could have been another Jonas Salk:
Let us be clear. James Holmes had the capacity to maybe find a cure for Alzheimers. Yes he was crazy. But he was smart.
While every white man is capable of intellectual miracles, at least in Whiskey’s mind, those with darker skin are somehow incapable of scientific thought:
Meanwhile Trayvon Martin was never going to amount to much of anything. Ever. And neither will all those young Black man just like him. … Literally any number of people you know, could die, in the future because society did not channel James Holmes into a productive outlet: neuroscience.
Uh, dude, even aside from the racism, there’s no evidence that Holmes actually was a genius.
After a bit more bloviating, Whisky brings it back to Trayvon Martin for his stirring conclusion:
[I]t is [a] fantasy that we can have no cost to marginalizing White guys (particularly the smart ones without connections) and that we can continue to have clean water, and air, and food that is safe to eat, and the power always one [sic], by betting it all on the Trayvon Martins.
Why is it that the guys who talk the most about IQ are invariably such complete fucking idiots?
octopodes
Wait, does your page 10 have the full paragraph/sentence then? The second printing has a weird cut that must be a missing line.
Also, bipolar bear is one of my favorite things EVAR. (I’m easily amused)
Octopodes works I guess, it isn’t a Latin root, so octopi feels so very wrong. (It’d be octopes, octopedes in Latin…freaky 3rd declension nouns…)
Lol, wiki calls octopodes pedantic, like that’s ever stopped me.
@dsc
my con law professor was an elderly englishman who in his previous life had been a philosophy student. he had natty, untameable hair, a fondness for ill-fitting sweaters, and wore converse with everything. i mean everything- on the two or three times a year he had to wear a suit, he still had his sneakers on.
that’s my image of a con law professor.
It used to be that I didn’t know what the plural of “octopus” was, never mind that there were three, or that people argued over which was “proper”. In the very rare cases that it mattered, I just used “octopus” – same word as both singular and plural. For that matter, I still do. No one’s ever called me out on this. So it probably doesn’t matter much which one you use, so long as people know what you mean.
Anyway trying to respect the original language just for the sake of doing so is kind of pointless when English rarely does this anyway. When’s the last time we called Ellinas anything other than “Greece”, for example?
@Sharculese
So your con law professor was an alternate universe version of one of the classic Doctor Who iterations of The Doctor?
oh, professor wiseman would have made fantastic Doctor
Deranged Counter-Troll — “Anyway trying to respect the original language just for the sake of doing so is kind of pointless when English rarely does this anyway.” — Hi, 4 years of Latin here, so yeah, I’m just pedantic like that.
Sharculese — right down to the converse sneakers apparently, ten always wore a pair.
He was the one who claimed that SOPA was a feminist plot against the MRM, right?
“It sounds like a a bunch of tracks nine inch nails threw out because after they listened to it they realized it was such horrible crap.”
Oh, if only NIN were in the habit of throwing out tracks after listening to them and noting that they are horrible crap. I’d love to believe that was the case, but unfortunately I’ve heard Year Zero.
Oh, and since apparently sexy altera-looking women female musicians upset Slavey, here’s another one.
(He’s going to misinterpret the lyrics as a sign that she agrees with him that women are evil, isn’t he?)
Anyone else a bit taken aback to to see NWO make NIN reference? Though I suppose he does have a head like a hole.
Yay, this conversation again (not sarcasm there 😛 ). Octopodes or octopuses!
/Stephen Fry
He was also the one whose response to a calm, clinical and rational evisceration of his posts was to call his critic “pretentious” and “a moron” without actually tackling the considerable substance of the criticism.
Still, Pecunium should count himself lucky that his criticism was even acknowledged – Varpole’s usual response to evidence-backed challenges to his logically flimsy positions is to ignore them and hope they go away before anyone else notices.
Which isn’t the response one would expect from an intellectual giant who apparently delights in running rhetorical rings round us, but there you go.
Deranged Counter-Troll: When’s the last time we called Ellinas anything other than “Greece”, for example?
It varies. People still use the “hellenic” adjectival descriptor; though often this is being used by reactionaries harking back to the pretense of a golden age.
re Varpole: I think the SOPA nonsense was Antz.
Still, Pecunium should count himself lucky that his criticism was even acknowledged – Varpole’s usual response to evidence-backed challenges to his logically flimsy positions is to ignore them and hope they go away before anyone else notices.
There has been a dearth of response to me of late. I think I hurt his feelings, and he haz a sad.
Then again, it might be that pretty much everyone who addresses his arguments (such as they are) leaves them as Sammy Sosa’s bat might do a grapefruit.
Wetherby: Which isn’t the response one would expect from an intellectual giant who apparently delights in running rhetorical rings round us, but there you go.
No, you don’t understand, seeing through the façade of our rationality to reveal the pretentions of our obtuse moronity shows the true depth of his vision, the perspicacity of his intellect and the mastery of language he has managed to attain.
Truly, there are few people who have such skills as he has and are willing to share them with such vigor. We should count ourselves blessèd and bask in his chastisements, as a loving child bears the reproofs of a benevolent father.
varpole (or do you prefer Torvus?): I’ve noticed that Boobzland seems to be driven- as in this case- primarily by irrationality and emotional impulses, rather than clear, rational and unbiased critical thinking, as is utilized in the Movement.
Is this the same clear thinking which argues Tom Martin is a Plant of teh Feminism?
Or the one that expects Paul Elam to make a big deal about excommunicating him from the ranks of The Movement?
Slave here has openly stated that women should be enslaved, hates gay people worse than Fred Phelps, and has a nasty habit of sexualizing prepubscent girls.
And he’s an MRA. But I guess he’s just a feminist plant intended to make the MRM look bad, right?
No, in slavey’s case, Steele reasons that David must be editing all of slavey’s comments in order to discredit him.
Steele, I don’t know about anybody else here, but I had a moment of almost-respect for you when you went off on Tom Martin. (almost, I say, because then you launched into a reality-denying ‘no true Scotsman!’ piece…) I mean, actually calling out somebody for saying something beyond the pale? Son, I had hope for you then.
Are you not aware that NWOslave stepped in to stand up for Tom?
http://manboobz.com/2012/07/16/tom-martin-uk-mra-child-prostitutes-should-be-prosecuted-for-preying-on-pedophiles/comment-page-1/#comment-176577
Seriously, Steele. If there’s one thing that’ll save the Movement you care about, it’s having somebody stand up and yell at the top of their lungs that people who excuse the exploitation of children have no place in your Movement. If you start ignoring it now, then all your words about Exploitation having no place in your movement are going to start sounding…
Empty.
Like this?
“”And all the outraged PC demands to get huffy and point out how nothing justifies or excuses rape won’t change the fact that there are a lot of women who get pummeled and pumped because they are stupid (and often arrogant) enough to walk though life with the equivalent of a I’M A STUPID, CONNIVING BITCH – PLEASE RAPE ME neon sign glowing above their empty little narcissistic heads.” – Paul Elam
is that like when david tricked mikey into sockpuppeting?
it’s rlly funny when paul ‘my website and my internet radio make me a huge fucking deal’ elam accuses other people of being narcissists
If we’re going to talk “rational” how about a guy who claims he can’t be a writer because there’s a feminist conspiracy keeping him from getting published and ignores the existence of several current famous male authors (and the hundreds of old dead dudes who still grace library bookshelves)?
Or how about a dude who admits he doesn’t think there are any fence-sitters at Manboobz but then says he comes here to… recruit fence-sitters?
There are plenty more, the men/man who David chronicled a while back claiming that Christianity has actually been a feminist conspiracy since its inception comes to mind. You wanna talk mental gymnastics, hoo boy. It’s more like guys who can’t even do mental gymnastics hanging upside down on the mental monkey bars and yelling that up is down and black is white and 2+2=20.
I’d like to see more of the “mastery of language [Steele] has managed to attain”… in spite of MISANDRY.