We’ve already seen some unusual perspectives on the Aurora theater tragedy courtesy of The Spearhead and the Men’s Rights subreddit. Over on whiskeysplace, the manosphere blogger (and sometime Spearhead contributor) who calls himself Whiskey throws some racism into the mix.
In Whiskey’s view, the whole thing just shows … just how badly treated white men are in America today. And, he suggests, unless we change our evil white-man-hating ways we should expect even worse massacres to come. His basic thesis:
[T]hat an (admittedly crazy) 24 year old White guy with an extremely high IQ would paint his hair red, carefully position his beat up old pickup truck against one emergency exit door, enter through the pre-arranged opened other door, and kill (again as of this writing) 12 people while wounding 58, many seriously, shows how out of hand Obama’s America has become. …
Who is at fault? In no particular order, Obama, the entire Affirmative Action establishment, Jessie Jackson, feminists, the media, and the American people for taking the easy way out and not removing the former from public life through a hard, brutal political struggle that costs time and effort and more.
After a long tirade about “low-IQ” black murderers, Whiskey moves on to consider the life of the (apparently) socially awkward, dateless James Holmes, whom Whiskey assumes was oppressed for being a white guy.
Was James Holmes forced out of the University of Colorado for being too White and male? We may never know. But certainly, being White, male, and applying for science related jobs after graduating with honors led to … McDonalds.
Well, not literally. Holmes didn’t actually work at McDonalds. Very few people with undergraduate degrees in neuroscience do.
So you have a very toxic combination. A man with a high IQ, denied any gainful employment or relationship with the opposite sex. … America has become so debased, so hostile to ordinary White guys, that instead of say, devising his own bat-suit and rescuing someone, this guy figures he’s the Joker, and shoots a bunch of people he has never even met, dead.
And it gets worse, according to Whiskey: The continued oppression of white dudes by Obama, the feminists and, er, Russell Brand, will lead inevitably to more massacres in the future:
The constant demonization of White guys, and destruction of heroism as a model, has real consequences. Guys with high IQs who are intent on killing people are dangerous. They get that way not from “turning evil” like a Joss Whedon character in “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” but because they are turned away from anything positive, socially isolated and alone while a lucky socially dominant few have everything (before he ever got famous, and with a massive drug habit, Russell Brand boasted he was having sex with 80 women a month). These guys study for years, graduate with honors, and end up at McDonalds. Wrong sex and color.
Yes, because so many of those who work in fast food restaurants are white men tossed out of grad school because of their race and gender.
And those massacres in the future? Because white dudes are apparently all so super smart, we should expect them to be way worse than the ones we’ve seen so far. Like, atom bomb worse.
I want to be as clear as possible. The most dangerous man in WWII, was not Patton, or Rommel, or Yamamoto. No, it was nerdy, lanky, unassuming and part prima donna, J. Robert Oppenheimer. A high IQ unmoored by social ties, love, family, relationships, a job that is not demeaning … is a man who is a potential weapon.
Whiskey then brings us back around to Obama and his (alleged) anti-white dude agenda:
If Obama’s anti-White guy policies, the media’s demonization of (particularly nerdy) White guys, and the legal discrimination against most non-connected Whites were deliberately constructed to create guys far more dangerous than James Holmes, they could not have done a better job.
Whiskey has somehow convinced himself, based on nothing, that Holmes could have been another Jonas Salk:
Let us be clear. James Holmes had the capacity to maybe find a cure for Alzheimers. Yes he was crazy. But he was smart.
While every white man is capable of intellectual miracles, at least in Whiskey’s mind, those with darker skin are somehow incapable of scientific thought:
Meanwhile Trayvon Martin was never going to amount to much of anything. Ever. And neither will all those young Black man just like him. … Literally any number of people you know, could die, in the future because society did not channel James Holmes into a productive outlet: neuroscience.
Uh, dude, even aside from the racism, there’s no evidence that Holmes actually was a genius.
After a bit more bloviating, Whisky brings it back to Trayvon Martin for his stirring conclusion:
[I]t is [a] fantasy that we can have no cost to marginalizing White guys (particularly the smart ones without connections) and that we can continue to have clean water, and air, and food that is safe to eat, and the power always one [sic], by betting it all on the Trayvon Martins.
Why is it that the guys who talk the most about IQ are invariably such complete fucking idiots?
I’m going to add finding music on youtube to the list of things I really need to get better at.
http://youtu.be/-MPck1zhKpQ Here’s the proper full version of the song.
…….so should I add “the truth” to the list, or no?
Truth and lies are both misandry.
@Cliff Pervocracy
“Logic itself isn’t misogynist, obviously! But here are some things that ARE misogynist:”
“Claiming men are more logical than women”
Men are more logical than women. That’s not misogyny. That’s factual. See. Right off the bat, a fact has become misogyny. You’ve failed right outta the gate. Still sticking with feminist androgynous theory.
@Freitag:
At least they find him cute now.
@nwoslave
Care to back that up with a credible source?
aworldanonymous — keep up! Citations are misandry!
Holy crap! Was that an actual social interaction between two MRMs?
There’s a lump in my throat… Excuse me, I have something in my eye.
Shorter Owly: My bullshit misogynistic asspull is misogynistic, according to you. See how illogical you are?
Unless proof is also misandry, NWO, could you logically prove this to us?
@Cliff Pervocracy
Womens logic.
“Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
These are a few misandric things”
“Truth and lies are both misandry.”
“Oh, right, postmodernism is also misandry. As is the idea that words have meanings. Claiming that contradictory things contradict each other is also misandry.”
“Well, if he’s going to tuck tail and not display his awesome logic, I guess I’ll just go and make myself a sammich.”
“Steele, not unlike other trolls, ignores things he cant refute in order to continue spouting nonsense at things he thinks he can. He also assumes the subject will be dropped if he ignores it enough.”
This is all that’s ever posted here. Unrestrained emotional rants of valueless irrelevance. There’s no logic to any of it. It’s pure emotional rage. No one here can ever be engaged in a constructive manner. The emotion arguement will always devolve down to needing more feminism. No matter what it’ll either be, patriarchy, toxic masculinity, women are victims, men are oppressors, women do things better, more feminism, women are good, men are bad, yadda, yadda feminist claptrap.
Look at the example given me how the feminist site, pandagon is critical of women as well as men. They were critical of her for not agreeing with feminist theory of feminist theory. What a joke!
There is no logic or critical thinking going on here. Ever. That’s not what this site or any feminist leaning site is about. It’s pure emotional rage.
Sir Bodsworth — Steele’s been trying to make friends, it’s almost cute.
NWO, how can you say that when you’re such a clear counterexample? Everyone here can read your long disjointed ramblings and assess your logical reasoning skills for themselves.
Do you think YOU are logical?
…You actually do, don’t you. I mean, I know a lot of MRAs are like the Dunning-Krueger effect made flesh, but this is taking it to a whole new level. You, NWOslave, think you’re a logical person.
That’s just precious.
The only one responsible for this senseless act, is the nutcase that did it.
This is also a great example of using “logic” in an abusive way. I mean, Owly isn’t abusing anyone here except that he is constantly being an utter shit-head to everyone, but I would worry for anyone in a relationship with him if he thinks this kind of “reasoning” is at all acceptable.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
What a strumpet.
It’s very illogical for NWO to ask us to believe an unsupported blanket statement. How does he define and measure “logicalness,” and what evidence does he have that men have more?
/illogical-non-man
@blitzgal
I honestly didn’t think I’d ever see anyone unironically use strumpet, I’ve always thought it to be a rather silly word, despite the implications. It always reminds me of a variety of pastry.
When MRAs say they are logical, do they mean that their statements follow logical from their premises, or that their premises are sound?
I think they just mean that they are awesome, because they never use the word in any way that a dictionary would recognize.
I don’t know which one they mean, but they often fail at both.
“It always reminds me of a variety of pastry.”
Strumpet, crumpet…yeah, I think baked goods too.
Pear_tree — which ever they mean, most of the ones that come over here can’t manage it. Hence Spot That Fallacy!! the gameshow for MRA trolls who can’t string an argument together. NWO is pulling one of his favorites —
Appeal to tradition (argumentum ad antiquitam) – a conclusion supported solely because it has long been held to be true.
YES! YES! YES! The web has been scoured for any remaining pockets of resistance and now the intellectual genuis of manboobz logic will destroy the unsuspecting MRA.
“Misogynist scum. Prepare to meet your maker!”
“The web has been scoured for any remaining pockets of resistance and now the intellectual genuis of manboobz logic will destroy the unsuspecting MRA.”
Maybe you should start your own pocket of resistance. By which I mean blog.