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Manosphere blogger blames Obama, Jesse Jackson, and feminists for the Aurora theater shootings. Yes, really.

Scientific geniuses: Always white dudes

We’ve already seen some unusual perspectives on the Aurora theater tragedy courtesy of The Spearhead and the Men’s Rights subreddit. Over on whiskeysplace, the manosphere blogger (and sometime Spearhead contributor) who calls himself Whiskey throws some racism into the mix.

In Whiskey’s view, the whole thing just shows … just how badly treated white men are in America today. And, he suggests, unless we change our evil white-man-hating ways we should expect even worse massacres to come. His basic thesis:

[T]hat an (admittedly crazy) 24 year old White guy with an extremely high IQ would paint his hair red, carefully position his beat up old pickup truck against one emergency exit door, enter through the pre-arranged opened other door, and kill (again as of this writing) 12 people while wounding 58, many seriously, shows how out of hand Obama’s America has become.   …

Who is at fault? In no particular order, Obama, the entire Affirmative Action establishment, Jessie Jackson, feminists, the media, and the American people for taking the easy way out and not removing the former from public life through a hard, brutal political struggle that costs time and effort and more.

 

After a long tirade about “low-IQ” black murderers, Whiskey moves on to consider the life of the (apparently) socially awkward, dateless James Holmes, whom Whiskey assumes was oppressed for being a white guy.

Was James Holmes forced out of the University of Colorado for being too White and male? We may never know. But certainly, being White, male, and applying for science related jobs after graduating with honors led to … McDonalds.

Well, not literally. Holmes didn’t actually work at McDonalds. Very few people with undergraduate degrees in neuroscience do.

So you have a very toxic combination. A man with a high IQ, denied any gainful employment or relationship with the opposite sex. … America has become so debased, so hostile to ordinary White guys, that instead of say, devising his own bat-suit and rescuing someone, this guy figures he’s the Joker, and shoots a bunch of people he has never even met, dead.

And it gets worse, according to Whiskey: The continued oppression of white dudes by Obama, the feminists and, er, Russell Brand, will lead inevitably to more massacres in the future:

The constant demonization of White guys, and destruction of heroism as a model, has real consequences. Guys with high IQs who are intent on killing people are dangerous. They get that way not from “turning evil” like a Joss Whedon character in “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” but because they are turned away from anything positive, socially isolated and alone while a lucky socially dominant few have everything (before he ever got famous, and with a massive drug habit, Russell Brand boasted he was having sex with 80 women a month). These guys study for years, graduate with honors, and end up at McDonalds. Wrong sex and color.

Yes, because so many of those who work in fast food restaurants are white men tossed out of grad school because of their race and gender.

And those massacres in the future? Because white dudes are apparently all so super smart, we should expect them to be way worse than the ones we’ve seen so far. Like, atom bomb worse.

I want to be as clear as possible. The most dangerous man in WWII, was not Patton, or Rommel, or Yamamoto. No, it was nerdy, lanky, unassuming and part prima donna, J. Robert Oppenheimer. A high IQ unmoored by social ties, love, family, relationships, a job that is not demeaning … is a man who is a potential weapon. 

Whiskey then brings us back around to Obama and his (alleged) anti-white dude agenda:

If Obama’s anti-White guy policies, the media’s demonization of (particularly nerdy) White guys, and the legal discrimination against most non-connected Whites were deliberately constructed to create guys far more dangerous than James Holmes, they could not have done a better job.

Whiskey has somehow convinced himself, based on nothing, that Holmes could have been another Jonas Salk:

Let us be clear. James Holmes had the capacity to maybe find a cure for Alzheimers. Yes he was crazy. But he was smart.

While every white man is capable of intellectual miracles, at least in Whiskey’s mind, those with darker skin are somehow incapable of scientific thought:

Meanwhile Trayvon Martin was never going to amount to much of anything. Ever. And neither will all those young Black man just like him. … Literally any number of people you know, could die, in the future because society did not channel James Holmes into a productive outlet: neuroscience.

Uh, dude, even aside from the racism, there’s no evidence that Holmes actually was a genius.

After a bit more bloviating, Whisky brings it back to Trayvon Martin for his stirring conclusion:

[I]t is [a] fantasy that we can have no cost to marginalizing White guys (particularly the smart ones without connections) and that we can continue to have clean water, and air, and food that is safe to eat, and the power always one [sic], by betting it all on the Trayvon Martins.

Why is it that the guys who talk the most about IQ are invariably such complete fucking idiots?

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whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

Did anyone else read “Hah! Good one, Slave.” and hear “nanny nanny boo boo”?

kobold77
kobold77
8 years ago

Steele translator activated:

“Hah! Good one, pathetic, socially inept, conspiracy theorist with impotent rage issues. PLEASE BE MY FRIEND!”

Anathema
Anathema
8 years ago

At first, I was confused as to why Steele was trying to flatter Owly. Why would Steele want to suck up to someone so laughable and absurd? I’d think that anyone would want to distance themselves from Owly as much as they possibly could.

And then I realized that, ridiculous as Owly is, he’s at least occasionally amusing in his stupidity, while Steele’s stupidity is just boring. Owly has some amount of creativity, which Steele lacks entirely. Owly is also sometimes entertaining, something which Steele can never hope to be.

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

Did anyone else read “Hah! Good one, Slave.” and hear “nanny nanny boo boo”?

Nooo … but I did hear Steele slap Slavey on the back and then wipe his hand on his jeans.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Tom Martin: vile feminist plant to discredit the MRM.
Owlyslave: totally has our number, hits the nail on the button, etc..

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

Isn’t Owlyslave just a few hard chairs short of a Tom Martin, though?

Dani Alexis
Dani Alexis
8 years ago

I’ve noticed that Boobzland seems to be driven- as in this case- primarily by irrationality and emotional impulses, rather than clear, rational and unbiased critical thinking, as is utilized in the Movement.

Like how you clearly, rationally, and un-biased-ly decided to let one comment from a naysaying teacher deter you from your dream of becoming a writer, instead of irrationally and emotionally indulging the impulse to say “screw that, I’m going to write anyway”? Or like how you’re still commenting here instead of, you know, writing?

I mean, I realize comments are written, but you won’t get paid for them as a rule, so they are maybe not the best use of your time if you want to be a writer. I dunno, that’s just my irrational, emotional, and/or impulsive opinion.

Freitag
Freitag
8 years ago

Hey, where did Steele go? I wanted the cogent, concise and rhetorically sound analyses of Whiskey’s posts.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
8 years ago

OK. Oh, boohoo! All the avatars look so strong and it gives me a bad body image. My feeling are hurt. I’m sad and stuff. I wanna whine about why I’m sad and stuff. Now gimmie a 160K.

Good start. Now, work on being pro-active. Start a blog/website -it’s free!- and post an outline of the project for which you’d like to receive donations. Be certain that you provide some way for people to donate on your site. On your travels through the man-o-sphere, post links to your blog/website and tell other MRAs and MRA sympathizers about your project. Tell them that you need donations to get started. If they’re interested, perhaps they’ll click the link to your blog/website and make a donation.

Then you could get paid for all of your whining.

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

Steele, not unlike other trolls, ignores things he cant refute in order to continue spouting nonsense at things he thinks he can. He also assumes the subject will be dropped if he ignores it enough.

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

So did Steele just forget how a couple days ago he was claiming Slavey was a fringe extremist who didn’t represent the movement?

Freitag
Freitag
8 years ago

Well, if he’s going to tuck tail and not display his awesome logic, I guess I’ll just go and make myself a sammich.

whataboutthemoonz, nice one. 😀

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

@ Cliff

Like most other things, consistency is misandry. As is you pointing out his inconsistency. Why must you persecute Mikey so?

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

Logic itself isn’t misogynist, obviously! But here are some things that ARE misogynist:

-Claiming men are more logical than women
-Ignoring women’s emotions completely, because they aren’t “logical.”
-Claiming emotional actions by men are “logical,” just because a man made them.
-When a woman is emotional about a subject, but making logical arguments, ignoring the logic and telling her to just calm down.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

For those who weren’t around when it first happened, I would just like to point out that Owly’s “logic and reason are patriarchal” straw man is a reference to a DV organization’s chart that lists “using ‘logic'” as an abusive tactic. Owly claimed it was the law, but it was not. And now Steele is patting him on the back for it while both claiming the mantle of Logic And Reason for the MRM and deliberately misrepresenting others.

This delicious irony has many layers. It’s a veritable shit onion.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

-When a woman is emotional about a subject, but making logical arguments, ignoring the logic and telling her to just calm down.

…a DV organization’s chart that lists “using ‘logic’” as an abusive tactic.

Huh? I wonder if maybe using “logic” could be abusive? (Hint NWO, point here is that yeah, it can be)

nwoslave
8 years ago

@Cliff Pervocracy

That’s right, Holly. I’m an extremist. Why I didn’t even bless myself before posting here. Blasphemy for sure. If only I’d get in touch with my feminine side, the good side and leave that slavering beast behind. Toxic masculinity is so hurtful to me. And the patriarchy, don’t even get me started. Dresses and gays and trans and feelings and tolerance. More feminism is what men need to end their evil ways. Teach me, Holly. All about the goodness of women so men can be just like women.

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

Things that are Misandry:

~Citations
~Consistency
~Not being a doormat
~Having a vagina
~THE JABBERWOCKY
~everthing

Did I miss anything?

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

@whataboutthemoonz

You forgot things that aren’t everything, we have to consider the postmodern MRA fee fees too after all.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

whataboutthemoonz — context, conditional statements, and statistics

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

Also this just in, I’m bad at postmodernism.

cloudiah
8 years ago

Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
These are a few misandric things

Cream colored ponies and crisp apple streudels
Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles
Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
These are a few misandric things

Girls (MISANDRY!) in white dresses with blue satin sashes
Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes
Silver white winters that melt into springs
These are a few misandric things

When the dog bites
When the bee stings
When I’m feeling sad
I simply remember misandric things
And then I get really really mad and post a shit-ton of comments on Man Boobz calling everyone vile.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Oh, right, postmodernism is also misandry. As is the idea that words have meanings. Claiming that contradictory things contradict each other is also misandry.

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

@cloudiah.

You handled the lyrics so I figured I’d put up some backing music for anyone who wants to sing.

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

I’m going to add finding music on youtube to the list of things I really need to get better at.

http://youtu.be/-MPck1zhKpQ Here’s the proper full version of the song.

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

…….so should I add “the truth” to the list, or no?

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

Truth and lies are both misandry.

nwoslave
8 years ago

@Cliff Pervocracy
“Logic itself isn’t misogynist, obviously! But here are some things that ARE misogynist:”
“Claiming men are more logical than women”

Men are more logical than women. That’s not misogyny. That’s factual. See. Right off the bat, a fact has become misogyny. You’ve failed right outta the gate. Still sticking with feminist androgynous theory.

Nikan
Nikan
8 years ago

@Freitag:

Obviously the problem for Holmes was that all the wimminz around him were riding the alpha cock carousel, thereby turning him away from anything positive and made him socially isolated. Pure logic, dontcha see?

At least they find him cute now.

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

@nwoslave

Stallions are more logical than mares. That’s not misogyny. That’s factual. See. Right off the bat, a fact has become misogyny. You’ve failed right outta the gate. Still sticking with feminist androgynous theory.

Care to back that up with a credible source?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

aworldanonymous — keep up! Citations are misandry!

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
8 years ago

Holy crap! Was that an actual social interaction between two MRMs?

There’s a lump in my throat… Excuse me, I have something in my eye.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Shorter Owly: My bullshit misogynistic asspull is misogynistic, according to you. See how illogical you are?

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

Unless proof is also misandry, NWO, could you logically prove this to us?

nwoslave
8 years ago

@Cliff Pervocracy

Womens logic.

“Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
These are a few misandric things”

“Truth and lies are both misandry.”

“Oh, right, postmodernism is also misandry. As is the idea that words have meanings. Claiming that contradictory things contradict each other is also misandry.”

“Well, if he’s going to tuck tail and not display his awesome logic, I guess I’ll just go and make myself a sammich.”

“Steele, not unlike other trolls, ignores things he cant refute in order to continue spouting nonsense at things he thinks he can. He also assumes the subject will be dropped if he ignores it enough.”

This is all that’s ever posted here. Unrestrained emotional rants of valueless irrelevance. There’s no logic to any of it. It’s pure emotional rage. No one here can ever be engaged in a constructive manner. The emotion arguement will always devolve down to needing more feminism. No matter what it’ll either be, patriarchy, toxic masculinity, women are victims, men are oppressors, women do things better, more feminism, women are good, men are bad, yadda, yadda feminist claptrap.

Look at the example given me how the feminist site, pandagon is critical of women as well as men. They were critical of her for not agreeing with feminist theory of feminist theory. What a joke!

There is no logic or critical thinking going on here. Ever. That’s not what this site or any feminist leaning site is about. It’s pure emotional rage.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Sir Bodsworth — Steele’s been trying to make friends, it’s almost cute.

AlexB
AlexB
8 years ago

NWO, how can you say that when you’re such a clear counterexample? Everyone here can read your long disjointed ramblings and assess your logical reasoning skills for themselves.

Do you think YOU are logical?

…You actually do, don’t you. I mean, I know a lot of MRAs are like the Dunning-Krueger effect made flesh, but this is taking it to a whole new level. You, NWOslave, think you’re a logical person.

That’s just precious.

grampmk
grampmk
8 years ago

The only one responsible for this senseless act, is the nutcase that did it.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Men are more logical than women. That’s not misogyny. That’s factual. See. Right off the bat, a fact has become misogyny. You’ve failed right outta the gate. Still sticking with feminist androgynous theory.

This is also a great example of using “logic” in an abusive way. I mean, Owly isn’t abusing anyone here except that he is constantly being an utter shit-head to everyone, but I would worry for anyone in a relationship with him if he thinks this kind of “reasoning” is at all acceptable.

blitzgal
8 years ago

Nah, I’ve been banned from there.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

blitzgal
8 years ago

NWO has been posting on the men’s rights subreddit and I think I saw him recently on the spearhead as well. He gets upvotes.

What a strumpet.

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

It’s very illogical for NWO to ask us to believe an unsupported blanket statement. How does he define and measure “logicalness,” and what evidence does he have that men have more?

/illogical-non-man

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

@blitzgal

I honestly didn’t think I’d ever see anyone unironically use strumpet, I’ve always thought it to be a rather silly word, despite the implications. It always reminds me of a variety of pastry.

Pear_tree
Pear_tree
8 years ago

When MRAs say they are logical, do they mean that their statements follow logical from their premises, or that their premises are sound?

random6x7
random6x7
8 years ago

I think they just mean that they are awesome, because they never use the word in any way that a dictionary would recognize.

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

When MRAs say they are logical, do they mean that their statements follow logical from their premises, or that their premises are sound?

I don’t know which one they mean, but they often fail at both.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

“It always reminds me of a variety of pastry.”

Strumpet, crumpet…yeah, I think baked goods too.

Pear_tree — which ever they mean, most of the ones that come over here can’t manage it. Hence Spot That Fallacy!! the gameshow for MRA trolls who can’t string an argument together. NWO is pulling one of his favorites —

Appeal to tradition (argumentum ad antiquitam) – a conclusion supported solely because it has long been held to be true.

nwoslave
8 years ago

YES! YES! YES! The web has been scoured for any remaining pockets of resistance and now the intellectual genuis of manboobz logic will destroy the unsuspecting MRA.

“Misogynist scum. Prepare to meet your maker!”

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

“The web has been scoured for any remaining pockets of resistance and now the intellectual genuis of manboobz logic will destroy the unsuspecting MRA.”

Maybe you should start your own pocket of resistance. By which I mean blog.