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Manosphere blogger blames Obama, Jesse Jackson, and feminists for the Aurora theater shootings. Yes, really.

Scientific geniuses: Always white dudes

We’ve already seen some unusual perspectives on the Aurora theater tragedy courtesy of The Spearhead and the Men’s Rights subreddit. Over on whiskeysplace, the manosphere blogger (and sometime Spearhead contributor) who calls himself Whiskey throws some racism into the mix.

In Whiskey’s view, the whole thing just shows … just how badly treated white men are in America today. And, he suggests, unless we change our evil white-man-hating ways we should expect even worse massacres to come. His basic thesis:

[T]hat an (admittedly crazy) 24 year old White guy with an extremely high IQ would paint his hair red, carefully position his beat up old pickup truck against one emergency exit door, enter through the pre-arranged opened other door, and kill (again as of this writing) 12 people while wounding 58, many seriously, shows how out of hand Obama’s America has become.   …

Who is at fault? In no particular order, Obama, the entire Affirmative Action establishment, Jessie Jackson, feminists, the media, and the American people for taking the easy way out and not removing the former from public life through a hard, brutal political struggle that costs time and effort and more.

 

After a long tirade about “low-IQ” black murderers, Whiskey moves on to consider the life of the (apparently) socially awkward, dateless James Holmes, whom Whiskey assumes was oppressed for being a white guy.

Was James Holmes forced out of the University of Colorado for being too White and male? We may never know. But certainly, being White, male, and applying for science related jobs after graduating with honors led to … McDonalds.

Well, not literally. Holmes didn’t actually work at McDonalds. Very few people with undergraduate degrees in neuroscience do.

So you have a very toxic combination. A man with a high IQ, denied any gainful employment or relationship with the opposite sex. … America has become so debased, so hostile to ordinary White guys, that instead of say, devising his own bat-suit and rescuing someone, this guy figures he’s the Joker, and shoots a bunch of people he has never even met, dead.

And it gets worse, according to Whiskey: The continued oppression of white dudes by Obama, the feminists and, er, Russell Brand, will lead inevitably to more massacres in the future:

The constant demonization of White guys, and destruction of heroism as a model, has real consequences. Guys with high IQs who are intent on killing people are dangerous. They get that way not from “turning evil” like a Joss Whedon character in “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” but because they are turned away from anything positive, socially isolated and alone while a lucky socially dominant few have everything (before he ever got famous, and with a massive drug habit, Russell Brand boasted he was having sex with 80 women a month). These guys study for years, graduate with honors, and end up at McDonalds. Wrong sex and color.

Yes, because so many of those who work in fast food restaurants are white men tossed out of grad school because of their race and gender.

And those massacres in the future? Because white dudes are apparently all so super smart, we should expect them to be way worse than the ones we’ve seen so far. Like, atom bomb worse.

I want to be as clear as possible. The most dangerous man in WWII, was not Patton, or Rommel, or Yamamoto. No, it was nerdy, lanky, unassuming and part prima donna, J. Robert Oppenheimer. A high IQ unmoored by social ties, love, family, relationships, a job that is not demeaning … is a man who is a potential weapon. 

Whiskey then brings us back around to Obama and his (alleged) anti-white dude agenda:

If Obama’s anti-White guy policies, the media’s demonization of (particularly nerdy) White guys, and the legal discrimination against most non-connected Whites were deliberately constructed to create guys far more dangerous than James Holmes, they could not have done a better job.

Whiskey has somehow convinced himself, based on nothing, that Holmes could have been another Jonas Salk:

Let us be clear. James Holmes had the capacity to maybe find a cure for Alzheimers. Yes he was crazy. But he was smart.

While every white man is capable of intellectual miracles, at least in Whiskey’s mind, those with darker skin are somehow incapable of scientific thought:

Meanwhile Trayvon Martin was never going to amount to much of anything. Ever. And neither will all those young Black man just like him. … Literally any number of people you know, could die, in the future because society did not channel James Holmes into a productive outlet: neuroscience.

Uh, dude, even aside from the racism, there’s no evidence that Holmes actually was a genius.

After a bit more bloviating, Whisky brings it back to Trayvon Martin for his stirring conclusion:

[I]t is [a] fantasy that we can have no cost to marginalizing White guys (particularly the smart ones without connections) and that we can continue to have clean water, and air, and food that is safe to eat, and the power always one [sic], by betting it all on the Trayvon Martins.

Why is it that the guys who talk the most about IQ are invariably such complete fucking idiots?

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lowquacks
8 years ago

all it means is that you can generally process more information at once than is average

I’d be hesitant to say it even means that that much. IQ tests are pretty culturally biased.

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

Still wishing I were better at satire, or at the very least had something useful to say that hasn’t yet been said. For the moment I can provide videos of small, furry animals to cushion the horribleness of the existence of racist misogynists.

ostara321
ostara321
8 years ago

I spotted NWO with Carmen San Diego.

Where in the world is Carmen San Diego?

nwoslave
8 years ago

@blitzgal
“He’s cheating on us with Pandagon. He seems a bit more distracted as a result.”

Nah, I’ve been banned from there. Amanda yelled out, “Women are angelic goddesses of infinite wisdom, grace and intelligence, and men are demonic and violent, capable of only death and despair.” The echo chamber replied in unison, “Yes exalted one, that and so much more.”

Somewhere in the echo chamber was a sound of discordance. A commentor wasn’t bending a knee at the altar. Many of the ladettes felt alarmed at this unusual defiance to the glorification of women. Dissent is forbidden in the echo chamber. That commentor was summarily dismissed. The voices in the echo chamber are once again harmonious.

lowquacks
8 years ago

*Where in the New World Order

Freitag
Freitag
8 years ago

I’ll bet more feminism is the answer!!! He should’ve been taught to wear dresses and blubber in the streets like an infant. Maybe how to kiss boys in the third grade.

Maybe he could have been taught that asking for help isn’t unmanly. That suffering alone isn’t required to be a man. That if you’re confused, having trouble, having thoughts of suicide or homicide or even just wanting to drink too much, it’s not a sign of masculinity to go it alone. More feminism might have done him some good.

Or not. We can’t know.

Freitag
Freitag
8 years ago

@aworldanonymous:

Bee
Bee
8 years ago

The most dangerous man in WWII, was not Patton, or Rommel, or Yamamoto. No, it was nerdy, lanky, unassuming and part prima donna, J. Robert Oppenheimer. A high IQ unmoored by social ties, love, family, relationships, a job that is not demeaning … is a man who is a potential weapon.

I’m confused. Is the awful man* saying that Oppenheimer created the bomb because he was unmoored by social ties, love, family, relationships, and a job that was not demeaning? Because from what I know about him, he was pretty damn moored by social ties, love, family, relationships, and a job that was — by pretty much any measure — not demeaning.

*I cannot in good conscience call him Whiskey. Whiskey is good.

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

I don’t know if ponies can help everyone with brain enemas but this certainly helped me.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Does anyone else think that Owly is just playing a really involved ARG?

That or he is actually writing an enormous corpus of fanfiction, one comment at a time.

Steele
Steele
8 years ago

It seems like the thing lately in the asshole-o-sphere to treat the victims of a crime the same as the perpetrators. “They’re both lost lives.” That’s such hideous bullshit.

It’s also true, in actual fact.

I’ve noticed that Boobzland seems to be driven- as in this case- primarily by irrationality and emotional impulses, rather than clear, rational and unbiased critical thinking, as is utilized in the Movement. Creep-shaming never happens, because the MRAs use the term regularly! Never never never! Misandry can never be real, NEVER!

It’s pathetic.

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

Does anypony else think that Owly is just playing a really involved ARG?

I think Owly has the same issues of many another conspiracy theorist. Except instead of targeting exclusively teh joos, or the masons, or the illuminati, he targets feminism.

nwoslave
8 years ago

@Freitag
“Maybe he could have been taught that asking for help isn’t unmanly.”

Maybe he did. And the response he got was to wear dresses, blubber like a child in the street and he should’ve been taught to kiss boys while in the third grade. More feminism was the answer he was given.

lowquacks
8 years ago

@Tulgey

He’s into Sovereign Citizen stuff, so yeah, basically.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
8 years ago

I’ve noticed that Boobzland seems to be driven- as in this case- primarily by irrationality and emotional impulses, rather than clear, rational and unbiased critical thinking, as is utilized in the Movement.

The kind of clear, rational and unbiased critical thinking that declared the life of a seventeen year-old high school student worthless?

That “Movement”?

nwoslave
8 years ago

@aworldanonymous
“I think Owly has the same issues of many another conspiracy theorist.”

Does the federal reserve control the money system? If the answer is yes, it’s not a theory, it’s a fact. The masses are easily led, just say the words conspiracy theory and they chuckle with their masters, who are laughing at them.

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

Nah, I’ve been banned from there. Amanda yelled out, “Women are angelic goddesses of infinite wisdom, grace and intelligence, and men are demonic and violent, capable of only death and despair.” The echo chamber replied in unison, “Yes exalted one, that and so much more.”

Somewhere in the echo chamber was a sound of discordance. A commentor wasn’t bending a knee at the altar. Many of the ladettes felt alarmed at this unusual defiance to the glorification of women. Dissent is forbidden in the echo chamber. That commentor was summarily dismissed. The voices in the echo chamber are once again harmonious.

So… this is an extended metaphor? Or literally, this happened?

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Steele, the only kinda “movement” the MRAs are capable of is the bowels. And that’s not somwthing they should be doing so publically.

lowquacks
8 years ago

@Steele

Murderers choose to murder, murder victims do not choose to be murdered. This is definitional stuff.

Of course, the “rational” course of action is to get upset that we’ve “lost” a mass murderer, because, hey, he’s a white dude, so he must be alright, but not mind the racially motivated murder of a teenager because he “wouldn’t amount to anything”.

nwoslave
8 years ago

@Steele

Whoa there, Steele! Logic and rationality are tools of the patriarchy. And that’s misogyny.

darksidecat
8 years ago

It’s just a general pile of racism on top of more racism. But the Obama hates nerds thing was an interesting bit of racism. I mean, I know some racists think that all black people are ‘cool’, but Obama was a ConLaw professor, right? I’ve taken two semesters of ConLaw and I just can’t associate super cool with ConLaw professor. ConLaw professor and nerd sort of fits right together. Not that my ConLaw professor wasn’t a good professor, he was, but I can’t think of that as making him cool either.

Full disclosure, we did once have a conversation about lesbian bondage porn (we were on obscenity law in ConLaw 2, it was on topic!).

How exactly is “wearing dresses” coded as Something Infants Do

Maybe most MRAs are literally a hundred years old and remember the days when all infants wore those white dresses. http://whowerethey.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/green-fan-album015.jpg

MRAs need to update their information on infant fashions…the most popular clothes for infants today are one piece outfits made of cotton or synthetic fibers, some of which have long sleeves and enclosed feet, which are fastened with little metal snaps. These outfits are called “onsies” by many people.

lowquacks
8 years ago

Does Owly even realise that there’s a front-page article on Pandagon right now criticising a woman?

nwoslave
8 years ago

@David Futrelle

You’re right, I did recently post on spearhead for the thread about altruism about the dark knight shooter. Here, I’ll save you the trouble of finding it.
————-
Men are natural protectors, not only of women and children but of men as well. The altruism, valor and honor of men who are willing to sacrifice themselves is a virtue like no other. No other sacrifice can be as great, and men are always on the front lines in any natural or un-natural disaster.

The systemic problem in modern society is the constant demonization of men. This one incident is a classic example. One man did a terrible thing. The media blasts out messages like, “Why do men kill?” “What is it that makes men mass murderers?” “What turns men into terrorists?”

The message is men are universally bad. Men are universally demons. Yet three men showed the ultimate sacrifice. Why isn’t the MSM peppering us with headlines like, “Why are men so giving?” What is about men that makes them so honorable?” “What turns men into heros?”

Everyday we’re told how if one man does something bad it’s men universally being bad, they’re all demons. If one man does something good it’s never men being universally good, it’s a fluke. For the most part, it doesn’t get mentioned at all.

For women, this symmetry is reversed. The politicians, schools and media reguarly blast out messages of any woman doing anything remotely positive to show how all women are good. Even a woman who does something bad is portrayed as somehow being a victim.

Men as a whole perform thousands of acts of valor a day in this country. Men as a whole are demonized thousands of times a day in this country. When society hates and demonizes all men, eventually more and more men will hate that society in return. Instead of demonizing men for the actions of a few, men should be praised for the actions of the many.
————–

There’s plenty to ridicule. There might even be a typo or some other incorrect usage of grammar. Knock yourselves out.

Freitag
Freitag
8 years ago

@Steele:

Who is at fault? In no particular order, Obama, the entire Affirmative Action establishment, Jessie Jackson, feminists, the media, and the American people for taking the easy way out and not removing the former from public life through a hard, brutal political struggle that costs time and effort and more.

This strikes you as “clear, rational and unbiased critical thinking?” Really?

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

I’ve noticed that Boobzland seems to be driven- as in this case- primarily by irrationality and emotional impulses, rather than clear, rational and unbiased critical thinking, as is utilized in the Movement.

I don’t think you noticed anything. I think you came into an explicitly misogyny-mocking space with the intent of throwing around explicitly misogynist tropes about gender-essentialism and rationality.

And I think that based on your behavior, which is observable, and your words, which are observable, and putting things together in a logical and rational and critical manner.


As for the MRM, only people who don’t understand basic rhetoric think that it’s an example of cogency, rationality, logic, unbiased anything, or critical thinking.

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

So… this is an extended metaphor? Or literally, this happened?

C’mon, this NWO we’re talking about. The moment he conceives of a metaphor it becomes his reality.

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
8 years ago

@freitag

Agree/disagree with you there. I think raising boys to be able to ask for help isn’t feminism; its raising emotionally healthy children.

And, I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this before, but if they didn’t make seeking mental health services punative, it would be easier for more people to do.

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

@Steele:

I’m pretty sure “clear, rational and unbiased critical thinking” is what led me to leave the MRM.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
8 years ago

Diogenes: And a lot of feminist thinking very explicitly supports raising emotionally healthy children, instead of children who are good at performing the gender roles of Man or Woman.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Clear, unbiased critical thinking— like insisting that Tom Martin must, must be a feminist plant meant to discredit the MRM!

I lol’d.

Anathema
Anathema
8 years ago

Yeah Owly, I’m sure that Marcotte banned you simply because you dared to disagree with her. (Well, I think that’s what you were trying to get at with your bizarre goddess-worship rant.) Certainly, the fact that your comments over there were your typical inane blatherings had nothing to do with it.

whataboutthemoonz
8 years ago

I notice that trolls who talk about rhetoric and critical skills are significantly less likely to use them.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Creep-shaming never happens, because the MRAs use the term regularly!

This is the person who honestly tried to argue that “creep(y)” is a gendered insult.

I also lol’d.

nwoslave
8 years ago

@whataboutthemoonz
“I think you came into an explicitly misogyny-mocking space”

Everything is misogyny. Anytime any woman feels any kind of discomfort to her precious feelings, if it’s said by a man, it’s misogyny.

Manboobz scours the web searching for anything anyone says to prove the rampant misogyny in society. “Look! My pixels were sexually harrassed by his pixels!” His avatar look up the skirt of my avatar.” Oh horrors, when will it ever end??? We need Big Daddy to silence all dissent.

I mean that is what you do here. Looking for pixels that dare hurt the feelings of other pixels. Tropes against pixels.

Hey, my feelings are hurt, how about the gang drops a 160K in my lap. Boohoo, my pixels are sad and stuff.

Diogenes The Cynic
Diogenes The Cynic
8 years ago

@Morkais, yeah.

The thing is, most women live in 2012 socially, and most men in the 50’s. Just a month ago I was at a friends house, and we were sitting in his backyard watching his kids play on a hill. One of his sons tumbles down, and begins to cry. He said “suck it up.” He wouldn’t say the same thing to one of his daughters. Its something we largely do to ourselves. 🙁

Freitag
Freitag
8 years ago

Here’s an great example of “clear, unbiased critical thinking” right here:

…because they are turned away from anything positive, socially isolated and alone while a lucky socially dominant few have everything…

Obviously the problem for Holmes was that all the wimminz around him were riding the alpha cock carousel, thereby turning him away from anything positive and made him socially isolated. Pure logic, dontcha see?

lowquacks
8 years ago

To be fair, if it weren’t for the actual guy showing up at court and in videos, it’d be pretty easy to believe Tom Martin was a false-flag robot. Hell, I only ever learnt some crappy VBasic and I reckon I could program an alright Tombot.

10 PRINT wh*res
20 GOTO 10 'muahaha the previously entirely credible Mens' Rights Movement is now a joke!

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Creep-shaming never happens, because the MRAs use the term regularly!

Which, by the way, is a total straw man. It is a straw man which is inexcusable given all the time you’ve spent here, Steele.

But please do go on about how unbiased you and the MRM are while deliberately misrepresenting others: it amuses me greatly.

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

@ Diogenes

Sorry to derail, but I just noticed that a commenter here uses the name of my favourite Classical Greek philosopher as their username and this made my day.

nwoslave
8 years ago

@lowquacks
“Does Owly even realise that there’s a front-page article on Pandagon right now criticising a woman?”

You’re kidding right? She’s being criticized for not being feminist enough. Holy crap! That’s the best you can come up with??? Oh poor women, the indignities they suffer. Obviously she’s fell in with a bad crowd. See how patriarchy hurts women. Tell me more. This is too good.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
8 years ago

@Morkais, yeah.

The thing is, most women live in 2012 socially, and most men in the 50′s. Just a month ago I was at a friends house, and we were sitting in his backyard watching his kids play on a hill. One of his sons tumbles down, and begins to cry. He said “suck it up.” He wouldn’t say the same thing to one of his daughters. Its something we largely do to ourselves. 🙁

Don’t agree with everything you’re saying here- sure, he wouldn’t say ‘suck it up’ to his daughters, but aren’t there any things he’d tell his daughter to do/not do and not his sons?

This is coming back to my standard There Are Gender Roles And They Are Shitty For Everyone thing, which is why I disagree with “most women live in 2012 socially, and most men in the 50′s.”

(That or misunderstand what you mean by that.)

Steele
Steele
8 years ago

Whoa there, Steele! Logic and rationality are tools of the patriarchy. And that’s misogyny.

Hah! Good one, Slave. These guys are unbelievable.

nwoslave
8 years ago

@Diogenes The Cynic
“One of his sons tumbles down, and begins to cry. He said “suck it up”

He’ll be grateful for that toughness when he goes out into the real world where he’s hated on a societal level.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
8 years ago

Manboobz scours the web searching for anything anyone says to prove the rampant misogyny in society. “Look! My pixels were sexually harrassed by his pixels!” His avatar look up the skirt of my avatar.” Oh horrors, when will it ever end??? We need Big Daddy to silence all dissent.

Says the person who scours the web searching for anything/any place where people are talking about women/feminism so he can spew a constant, frothy mix of hate and stupid at everyone who isn’t like him.

Hey, my feelings are hurt, how about the gang drops a 160K in my lap.

Plan and produce something that people are interested in, and maybe someone will donate to your project. I doubt you’re capable, but give it a shot.

aworldanonymous
8 years ago

Whoa there, Steele! Logic and rationality are tools of the patriarchy. And that’s misogyny.

Hah! Good one, Slave. These guys are unbelievable.

Oh dear, now they’re starting a mens rights circlejerk on the manboobz comments.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
8 years ago

Steele, are you going to respond to any of the questions you’ve been asked regarding your assertion that the “Movement” engages in “…clear, rational and unbiased critical thinking”?

Or are you just going to spend the thread ignoring the overt racism of what was written by Whiskey while simultaneously trying to suck up to NWO?

Trayvon Martin was male, wasn’t he? Why isn’t it misandry to claim that his life had no value?

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Whoa there, Steele! Logic and rationality are tools of the patriarchy. And that’s misogyny.

Hah! Good one, Slave. These guys are unbelievable.

CLEAR UNBIASED CRITICAL THINKING

Freitag
Freitag
8 years ago

@Steele, I’d like to see you analysis of the post under discussion (see top of page) for how Mr. Whiskey’s opinions are logical, rational and, above all, unbiased.

nwoslave
8 years ago

@Nobinayamu
“Plan and produce something that people are interested in, and maybe someone will donate to your project.”

OK. Oh, boohoo! All the avatars look so strong and it gives me a bad body image. My feeling are hurt. I’m sad and stuff. I wanna whine about why I’m sad and stuff. Now gimmie a 160K.

lowquacks
8 years ago

Whoa there, Steele! Logic and rationality are tools of the patriarchy. And that’s misogyny.

Hah! Good one, Slave. These guys are unbelievable.

DAE LOGIC AND REASON?