It’s amazing how daintily some manosphere dudes dance around the word “misogyny.”After spewing forth venomous woman-hating filth in post after post, they turn around and equally vociferously deny that they are in any way misogynistic – after all, they can think of three or four women in their life they don’t actively hate.
It’s strange. Men whose entire political and social philosophy is based on the hatred of women aren’t willing to say this out loud.
Over on Hawaiian Libertarian, a blog with some influence within the marginal universe of the manosphere, Keoni Galt is a bit more honest: he is proudly and openly misogynist. Not only that, but he’s convinced that others in the manosphere need to fully accept misogyny into their shrunken little hearts. And he’s written a little manifesto about it:
Misogyny is the key to male liberation from blue pill delusions. Only by embracing it, can men adopt a new paradigm in which the female of the human species has forever been knocked off of the pedestal that had been erected in our minds by institutionalized brainwashing and mass media programming.
Galt starts out with a fairly standard-issue manosphere confessional. Turns out that before he saw the light – sorry, took the red pill — he was a poor female-besotted white-knight mangina like most of the unlucky males of this world:
Back in the blue pill days, I was enchanted and mesmerized by the female gender as a whole. Tell-a-Vision and a childhood steeped in Churchianity had me forever looking at the female gender as the only bright light in a world of shit. I was indoctrinated into becoming a worshiper at the feet of the pedestal of the “sacred feminine.”
The last thing I ever wanted to become, was a misogynist. No, I bought into the delusion that the key to being accepted and gain the approval of the female herd was to become the vaunted WhiteKnight-EmotionalTampon- InTouchWithMyFeelings- LJBF-NICE GUY.
Oh dear, we have to listen to the sad, boring tale of the Nice Guy once again.
All a woman…ANY woman (not just young, attractive ones)…had to do when I was younger, was smile at me or give me a pathetic pleading look, or a nice sounding request and I was ready to do her bidding. The bat of an eyelash or a supplicating sound of her voice had me ready to ask her “how high would you like me to jump?”
I helped ladies move, “lent” them money (never asked for it back, mostly never got paid back either), given them rides, helped them with homework, built them things, fixed their cars, bought them drinks and/or meals…anything any female in my life requested, I did. “NO” was not a part of my vocabulary when it came to dealing with the opposite gender.
Helping friends isn’t a character flaw. But you’re the one who made yourself into a doormat.
I also spent many a time with groups of female friends, joining in on the “all men are pigs” type of conversations. I’ve been that “one of the girls” guy on many an occasion. (“You’re so COOL! Why can’t more guys be like YOU?!”
But, Galt assures us, he wasn’t one of those passive-aggressive, guilt-tripping dudes who tries to “nice guy” his crushes into bed.
I’m not talking about being the “nice guy” here in hopes of getting a romantic response from a particular female. These are women for whom I knew as friends, acquaintances, co-workers, colleagues etc. In other words, if it had a vagina, I said “yes dear” to any and every request, simply to live up to the expectations inculcated in my mind on how a “good man” is one who serves the feminine imperative.
My indoctrination and upbringing had trained me to seek feminine approval above anything else.
What the hell kind of “indoctrination” did you get? Did you grow up in some sort of Goddess Cult? I’ve never met a single other person who’s been “indoctrinated” in this fashion. It’s almost as though you’re exaggerating or just making shit up in such a way as to justify your present-day misogyny.
Oh, wait, you are:
I’ve come to the realization that misogyny is the inevitable antidote one must accept, after gaining an understanding of the ugly truth of the female imperative and how it works to enslave men for it’s own purpose.
Yes, the only two options for men in the contemporary world – the only two — are to either bend over backwards and do everything women ask them to do in a creepily self-abasing way while agreeing that “all men are pigs,” or to decide that women are shit. (It’s not like this is a logical fallacy or anything.)
Most women nowadays really are beneath contempt. Manipulative, conniving, self-centered and solipsistic…especially beautiful ones.
[citation needed]
I now understand that this is the result of the programming most females are inculcated with from the same mass media culture that programmed me to be a pedestal worshiper.
[citation needed]
Actually, ALL women are solipsistic and manipulative to a certain degree (AWALT). It is their very nature. The real problem is that our mass media culture encourages women to embrace it, revel in it, and use their power of attraction to manipulate for their own selfish ends. It has always been like this, I just never recognized it until the hindsight as seen through the clarity of understanding that came with taking the red pill.
You realize that what you call the “red pill” is just a slightly exaggerated and updated version of not-so-good old fashioned misogyny, which has been around since the beginnings of civilization if not earlier?
But one thing this misogynist will admit: Not all women are like that. Really. I know a few.
Dude, dude, you just literally said that ALL women ARE like that. Like, in the paragraph you just finished writing.
These are women who understand that the true path to happiness is creating a sphere of nurturing and contentment amongst her friends and family. Such women are a literal joy to be around. There contentment is infectious.
“There contentment?” If these women truly loved you, wouldn’t they help you proofread your drivel?
But for most women I meet, my baseline assumption is that they are contemptuous creatures not worthy of anything other than basic human consideration…unless and until they prove otherwise.
Well, my baseline assumption is that the dudes of the manosphere are a bunch of pompous douchenozzles. And so far, I’m not altogether happy to report, not one has provided even a shred of evidence suggesting otherwise.
*shrug* Good thing I’m not a christian, then. The only time I’m submissive to my bf is when he breaks out the handcuffs and paddle and gives me That Certain Look. Then it’s game on.
but yall running circles around fundamentalist humpty-dumpty is still more interresting than gasbag libertarian dude, so i… will tolerate it
Is it green jello? (cue xkcd re: jellybeans)
sunshinemary: WTF.. Jello? Jello is your answer?
That and saying the largest christian denomination to have a a rigid structure of family at it’s core… one in which the man is the head of the house, and a priest besides, “isn’t really Christian,”?
is this your idea of talking about scripture? Because if it is, you fail. You haven’t actually defended more than one text (and that was just to say, “You don’t understand it”). That’s pathetic.
Also, I apologize to my colleagues here for the html fail. *hangs head in shame*
Thank you for posting the clips, Argenti Aertheri. I do still adorable the originals.
It is the sad imitators that tire me.
sunshinemary: Take your time… go get some reference materials. Figure out what you want to argue. I’ll be off getting pizza for supper, so I’ll be gone for a bit. Don’t worry your little head, I will be back to see what you have to say.
Revenge of the Blockquotes XXXVII
“Is it green jello? (cue xkcd re: jellybeans)”
Cued (as is FLAG enjoy!)
pecunium — pizza… *drools* I appear to be moving back to CT, you may’ve just made my day by reminding me wtf I get for that — pizza (have a canoli for me?)
sunshinmary — if Mormons aren’t Christians, we don’t have to worry about Christians voting for Romney then, right?
http://www.livestrong.com/article/14713-eliminating-passive-aggressiveness/
I can’t help but chuckle at Mary coming in here to argue about how women should be submissive. She’s coming into a discussion about misogyny and the MRM, as a woman (so she claims), and it’s never occurred to her that the same MRAs she’s tacitly defending would find a way to hurt and abuse her no matter how submissive, “pleasant,” or “contented” she was for the simple, tragic fact that she was born identifiably female.
So, sunshinemary, should Abigail have submitted to her husband Nabal and not have prevented David from attacking him for ‘repaying good with evil’ (1 Samuel 25)? Was Sapphira right to lie about the price of the land as her husband, Ananias, did (Acts 5)? Should Esther have tried to convince her husband, the king, to not destroy the Jews with a quiet and submissive nature (Esther)? Should Jael have submitted to her husband’s family’s good standing with Sisera, and not have allowed the Lord to deliver Israel through her hands (Judges 4)?
That reminds me…. is it true that men only hold doors for women in the US? All those bloggers make US men sound like really rude jerks to me… what with them insisting that basic forms of polite behaviour are only to be extended to people with boobs…
sunshine: And for those of us who aren’t any stripe of Christian? Should we be bound by a scripture that isn’t our own?
OMFGWTFBBQLOL I WILL LOVE YOU FOREVERRRRRRR. (Still don’t know if I’m gonna be able to buy this D: )
Kakanian — all the US men I know either hold doors, period, or don’t, period — I might know one guy who only holds doors for women, but he’s also fond of the word bitch, so yeah…
Short answer — nope, just another case of the assholes being the loudest.
I never thought I’d like a song as much as Marry Me, but. G!G!G!
@KathleenB
Very good point, but that’s the advanced class. I’m just pointing out that there is room for other interpretations even within Christianity. 🙂
Sunshine, that peaceful household is likely only going to be enjoyed by hubby, who will expect wifey to keep the matters of the household to herself, unless the children need discipline. Why? Because she’s there to serve him and keep him happy. Whatever it takes her to do that is irrelevant, boring, womanly details he’d rather not be disturbed with.
Wow! She gets to make him a happy man with a peaceful house and hardly enjoy it with all the work and details she has to find time to manage.
Some women really enjoy this life and I’m totally cool with that. But I also know plenty of women who aren’t. And they talk about it and they blog about it too.
The main problem with the part of the Bible you quote about submission is that it puts no limits on what a husband can require his wife to submit to.
whataboutthemoonz — it’s on sale for $13 for today (first day sale) but youtube = free. Also, lol, you’re welcome 😀
Keoni, I am glad you commented here.
On the Christian Men’s Defense Network, where the lady who farts a lot comments, the LJBF Jesus means – and this is kind of painful to even try to explain – that the EAPs have too much self esteem. That they aren’t letting Jesus condemn and shame them for their sin and sluttiness.
Um, sunshinemary’s a fella pretending to be a woman, right? I can actually hear the falesetto when I read the posts. The use of the word “spinster” was funny…..in a vintagey kind of way. Of course, trying to shame child-free women in a feminist space was positively rollicking.
I give this troll a 7.8.
G!G!G! is better live, or at least, with the crumpets acting, check out the gesturing —
http://youtu.be/Ik0WuvwGa3o
Gotta love the Captain 🙂