It’s amazing how daintily some manosphere dudes dance around the word “misogyny.”After spewing forth venomous woman-hating filth in post after post, they turn around and equally vociferously deny that they are in any way misogynistic – after all, they can think of three or four women in their life they don’t actively hate.
It’s strange. Men whose entire political and social philosophy is based on the hatred of women aren’t willing to say this out loud.
Over on Hawaiian Libertarian, a blog with some influence within the marginal universe of the manosphere, Keoni Galt is a bit more honest: he is proudly and openly misogynist. Not only that, but he’s convinced that others in the manosphere need to fully accept misogyny into their shrunken little hearts. And he’s written a little manifesto about it:
Misogyny is the key to male liberation from blue pill delusions. Only by embracing it, can men adopt a new paradigm in which the female of the human species has forever been knocked off of the pedestal that had been erected in our minds by institutionalized brainwashing and mass media programming.
Galt starts out with a fairly standard-issue manosphere confessional. Turns out that before he saw the light – sorry, took the red pill — he was a poor female-besotted white-knight mangina like most of the unlucky males of this world:
Back in the blue pill days, I was enchanted and mesmerized by the female gender as a whole. Tell-a-Vision and a childhood steeped in Churchianity had me forever looking at the female gender as the only bright light in a world of shit. I was indoctrinated into becoming a worshiper at the feet of the pedestal of the “sacred feminine.”
The last thing I ever wanted to become, was a misogynist. No, I bought into the delusion that the key to being accepted and gain the approval of the female herd was to become the vaunted WhiteKnight-EmotionalTampon- InTouchWithMyFeelings- LJBF-NICE GUY.
Oh dear, we have to listen to the sad, boring tale of the Nice Guy once again.
All a woman…ANY woman (not just young, attractive ones)…had to do when I was younger, was smile at me or give me a pathetic pleading look, or a nice sounding request and I was ready to do her bidding. The bat of an eyelash or a supplicating sound of her voice had me ready to ask her “how high would you like me to jump?”
I helped ladies move, “lent” them money (never asked for it back, mostly never got paid back either), given them rides, helped them with homework, built them things, fixed their cars, bought them drinks and/or meals…anything any female in my life requested, I did. “NO” was not a part of my vocabulary when it came to dealing with the opposite gender.
Helping friends isn’t a character flaw. But you’re the one who made yourself into a doormat.
I also spent many a time with groups of female friends, joining in on the “all men are pigs” type of conversations. I’ve been that “one of the girls” guy on many an occasion. (“You’re so COOL! Why can’t more guys be like YOU?!”
But, Galt assures us, he wasn’t one of those passive-aggressive, guilt-tripping dudes who tries to “nice guy” his crushes into bed.
I’m not talking about being the “nice guy” here in hopes of getting a romantic response from a particular female. These are women for whom I knew as friends, acquaintances, co-workers, colleagues etc. In other words, if it had a vagina, I said “yes dear” to any and every request, simply to live up to the expectations inculcated in my mind on how a “good man” is one who serves the feminine imperative.
My indoctrination and upbringing had trained me to seek feminine approval above anything else.
What the hell kind of “indoctrination” did you get? Did you grow up in some sort of Goddess Cult? I’ve never met a single other person who’s been “indoctrinated” in this fashion. It’s almost as though you’re exaggerating or just making shit up in such a way as to justify your present-day misogyny.
Oh, wait, you are:
I’ve come to the realization that misogyny is the inevitable antidote one must accept, after gaining an understanding of the ugly truth of the female imperative and how it works to enslave men for it’s own purpose.
Yes, the only two options for men in the contemporary world – the only two — are to either bend over backwards and do everything women ask them to do in a creepily self-abasing way while agreeing that “all men are pigs,” or to decide that women are shit. (It’s not like this is a logical fallacy or anything.)
Most women nowadays really are beneath contempt. Manipulative, conniving, self-centered and solipsistic…especially beautiful ones.
[citation needed]
I now understand that this is the result of the programming most females are inculcated with from the same mass media culture that programmed me to be a pedestal worshiper.
[citation needed]
Actually, ALL women are solipsistic and manipulative to a certain degree (AWALT). It is their very nature. The real problem is that our mass media culture encourages women to embrace it, revel in it, and use their power of attraction to manipulate for their own selfish ends. It has always been like this, I just never recognized it until the hindsight as seen through the clarity of understanding that came with taking the red pill.
You realize that what you call the “red pill” is just a slightly exaggerated and updated version of not-so-good old fashioned misogyny, which has been around since the beginnings of civilization if not earlier?
But one thing this misogynist will admit: Not all women are like that. Really. I know a few.
Dude, dude, you just literally said that ALL women ARE like that. Like, in the paragraph you just finished writing.
These are women who understand that the true path to happiness is creating a sphere of nurturing and contentment amongst her friends and family. Such women are a literal joy to be around. There contentment is infectious.
“There contentment?” If these women truly loved you, wouldn’t they help you proofread your drivel?
But for most women I meet, my baseline assumption is that they are contemptuous creatures not worthy of anything other than basic human consideration…unless and until they prove otherwise.
Well, my baseline assumption is that the dudes of the manosphere are a bunch of pompous douchenozzles. And so far, I’m not altogether happy to report, not one has provided even a shred of evidence suggesting otherwise.
“Where’s the PUA-troll? What’s his word on that? Do women run around haunted by his scent and frigid? Further research needed.”
The beetlejuice like one who’ll show up if I say his name? *shudder*
Ugh — I’m thinking Axe, laundry soap, sunscreen (all that tanning) and sweat (either sweat or soap, I’m think gym/tan/laundry here).
You know what Axe is good for? Stink bombs, oh freshman year…
I nearly posted something on her blog pointing out the factual inaccuracy, then I realised I don’t know quite enough detail about birth control myself to argue the case effectively. 🙁
Also,
NOW WE MUST FIGHT WITH KNIVES
silver is pretty and I like simple understated jewelery
😛
I like shiny. Also one has opals. And the other is in the shape of flowers. But I’ll admit it’s a matter of personal taste.
But you can pick up a silver band for like $20 whatever the state of one’s hymen (or if one even has one), so it still isn’t an argument.
I’m sure these guys are not bitter at all:
http://cmd-n.org/2012/07/12/why-hamsterbation-causes-blindness/
I especially enjoyed the constant stream of novel misogynistic jargon. It’s a veritable wosalad, by which I mean a word salad.
See also: the hilarious assertion that the “Twilight” series is about encouraging promiscuity.
Yeah! Although it probably won’t do much good seeing as how the trolls seem so desperate not to interact with each other… though I am surprised Steele hasn’t dropped by to try to pick Mary up. Maybe he senses she will take that awry?
It would be a little hilarious to see one poster extolling PUA, and telling us we’re wrong, while the other troll spits on PUA and tells us we’re wrong. A little. And annoying. But just picture it for a brief second… now stop.
Okay. Back to Mary.
So, Mary, how do you know what God wants? Do you have a Bible that’s perfect to tell you?
Sharculese — Yeah I saw the 1 + 14 thing too, I’m tempted to snark them one by one on her blog, but then I’d have to check her blog for replies.
Pam — NEVER!! Particularly not when the made up “facts” are as wrong as this idea that people who marry as virgins won’t ever get STDs, since, presumably, that means they don’t need to be screened. As far as BC, the whole slut meme is dangerous because of the risks of some of the other medical conditions it’s used to treat.
Some of her reasons, (‘won’t end up a baby mama stuck working in a gas station for diaper money’, ‘won’t imprint on some loser alpha pick up artist whose musky scent haunts her dreams for the rest of her natural life, turning her into a frigid, useless wife with a sexually-frustrated husband’) sound like something from the end of a DirectTV commercial.
WordSpinner — this anecdote is going to have Mary labeling me a satanist, but $20? My pentagram ring was $5.
“But just picture it for a brief second… now stop.”
If Steele drops by for an 800+ comment thread debating chivalry with Mary I’ll make popcorn. (Steele’s outrage at Tom Martin was hilarious, the whole “must be a feminist plant” nonsense)
I was thinking about the department store sterling-silver jewelry, which is at least easy to find, so I’ll admit it was a bit of a highball price. My sister got a really pretty ring with multicolored shinies for a few bucks at Goodwill, but unfortunately the finish is wearing off.
I thought this reason to stay a virgin was pretty funny.
Apparently a vagina is a lot like a star system from Star Trek. She must watch the original series, because in the later shows, they made it “to boldly go where no one has gone before”, instead of “no man”.
@ Argenti Aertheri,
I do hope you realized that I wasn’t being serious in my remark!
I’m eagerly awaiting her companion post, “20 reasons for a man to remain a virgin until his wedding night”. I mean, that’s gotta be in the works, right? Or is it only unGodly/unChristian for women to engage in premarital sex?
Pam — yeah I got that, I probably should’ve made my “NEVER!!” an /sarcasm moment.
thebionicmommy — “She must watch the original series, because in the later shows, they made it “to boldly go where no one has gone before”, instead of “no man”.” — Sexism aside, I think you just nailed why I was never a big Star Trek fan — they go where no one has gone and yet there are sentient beings there already.
Imprint? What, does Mary think women are ducks?
Why did I go to her blog.. WHHYYYYYY…
*Clears throat*
The previous post to the one linked above is about the massacre in Aurora. Just, wow:
Given the nasty, disrespectful attitude that feminism cultivates in women, it amazes me that there are still so many young men who are willing to die for women. We should be on our knees with gratitude, thanking men that so many of them still hold true to their God-given noble characters despite the crap they get in return. Why are there no feminists calling on women to die for men at an equal rate?
I.. what? o.o
/slight tangeant
I find people who make passive-aggressive attempts to manipulate me into certain modes of behavior very unpleasant, Mary. I have also found that the people who do that tend to be bitter, angry, and not at all harmonious to be around. If we are to use the logic that you used in your defense of our Hawaiian friend’s post, this means that evangelical conservative Christianity makes women awful people who are unpleasant to be around.
See why everyone keeps telling you that this is not a smart way to structure your argument?
Was just reading the newest comments here via email…. I see that owlyslave has a few that must be in the moderation queue, including one where he accuses us, in general, and Rutee, in particular, of not having any morals. Yeah, a 50-something year old dude who wants to wave his woody around a bunch of little girls is gonna lecture us about morals.
I really liked this one because apparently if you’re a virgin you won’t have any embarrassing stories in your past. As a virgin myself I can tell you that’s not how it works.
FYI — NWO’s out of mod, starting on page 3 and spewing all over page 5.
@ Pecunium/ Quakers
I think it is sad that when there is a mention of a burka, minds automatically go to Islam. Your average everyday American-Muslims do not wear burkas.
I am not Christian, FYI, so please don’t throw water on me! Yikes! Baptism!
I was just trying to point out that mary intentionally left off the next lines, thereby lying by omission. Lying, from what I understand is not very Christian. Deliberately distorting bible verses to make it read whatever hateful ideas you make up, also not very Christian. Anyone can interpret whatever whichever way. Clearly, I am being interpreted as a MRA or anti-Muslim. I am being a little bit mean to mary because I am offended by that shiz.
Again, I am sorry if I offended. Maybe I should stfu with my opinions, but then I would be all doing stuff mary wants me to do– and that ain’t right! I still think God is love>>> feel free to insert any God or Goddess here.
“Your average everyday American-Muslims do not wear burkas.”
But the burka is, AIUI, a Muslim religious garment. Not worn by all Muslims, but not really by anyone else…
She must have missed all that petitioning the government feminists have done to let women serve in combat. Or, more likely, she’s been arguing against it because, SUBMISSIVE WIFE.
On her “20 reasons” bullshit, #5, imprinting? Really? And for fucks sake, if you’re really going to use that tired old “women will want to MARRY any dude who graces them with their penis” because “women are more emotional” or some such garbage, can we at least make it someone they didn’t likely hook up with just because they were horny and knew for more than a few hours? I’ve been the person who was infatuated with a guy from my past for a LONG ASS TIME but it wasn’t because we hooked up in “Cancun” (which, by the way, can I just say for a second here, that not every lady who dares have sex before marriage can fucking AFFORD a “Spring Break in Cancun”?), it was because we were friends and he was one of the first people I trusted with telling a little bit about my past abuse. We didn’t even fucking have sex and I “imprinted” on him (wtf is with that wordage to begin with? I’m blaming Stephanie Meyer). And you know, the only real reason I regret not dating him or “hooking up” with him is because I would have realized we were so not right for each other YEARS sooner and could have moved on with my life, rather than wasting time wondering “what if?”
And, yeah, my MOST embarrassing stories are from when I was a virgin. I think she’s conflating supposed “sluttiness” with “doing embarrassing things” which I’m sorry to say just isn’t how it always works. You don’t have to be on Girls Gone Wild to get caught with your pants down (er, literally, sometimes).
ostara321: There’s also the last line of that little bit, just the way it’s phrased makes me wtf. It’s like.. rather than reducing situations where it’s necessary for someone to sacrifice themself for another, we should be telling women to do more sacrificing in a grotesque effort to make things “equal”?
That’s not equality.. that’s just stupid.
“Then there is whorenography, a particularly revolting sub-genre of storenography that is dedicated to promiscuous girls in their teens and early twenties. This version of storenography is marked by its extreme shallowness, even by the already vapid standards of storenography. The Twilight series is a great example of whorenography.”
The (vapid, boring) heroine of Twilight has one sexual partner, who she doesn’t have sex with until they’re married. And one sort of but not really boyfriend before that, who she doesn’t have sex with. This makes her promiscuous?
I mean don’t get me wrong, the books are terrible, but not because the Mary Sue heroine is slutty.
That “one time we went to Ft. Lauderdale” sounds like the beginning of a Penthouse letter, only for straight girls. “THERE WERE ARMY MEN EVERYWHERE AND WE BANGED THEM!”
Sharculese and others,
You’ll be getting the edited documentaries, including highlights of the experiments, but then you’ll also be getting the unedited single take filming of the experiments so you can verify my stats.
The first documentary asks passers by if they think men or women are more sexist, then contrasts this result with what further passers by actually have to say about men and women.
The 2nd documentary is going to be asking Muslim women about their attitude to paid work, to see if the more veiled a woman is, the more workshy she is, or not, and discovering whether Muslim men are holding women back from work, or not.
The 3rd documentary tests my hypothesis, that women might be as funny as men when women are not focusing on the usual prostitution strategies.
All these vids will be appearing soon on my sexismbusters youtube channel.
Any suggestions for further investigations welcome.