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Hawaiian Libertarian: “Misogyny is the key to male liberation from blue pill delusions.”

This pedestal is a trick illusion.

It’s amazing how daintily some manosphere dudes dance around the word “misogyny.”After spewing forth venomous woman-hating filth in post after post, they turn around and equally vociferously deny that they are in any way misogynistic – after all, they can think of three or four women in their life they don’t actively hate.

It’s strange. Men whose entire political and social philosophy is based on the hatred of women aren’t willing to say this out loud.

Over on Hawaiian Libertarian, a blog with some influence within the marginal universe of the manosphere, Keoni Galt is a bit more honest: he is proudly and openly misogynist. Not only that, but he’s convinced that others in the manosphere need to fully accept misogyny into their shrunken little hearts. And he’s written a little manifesto about it:

Misogyny is the key to male liberation from blue pill delusions. Only by embracing it, can men adopt a new paradigm in which the female of the human species has forever been knocked off of the pedestal that had been erected in our minds by institutionalized brainwashing and mass media programming.

Galt starts out with a fairly standard-issue manosphere confessional. Turns out that before he saw the light – sorry, took the red pill — he was a poor female-besotted white-knight mangina like most of the unlucky males of this world:

Back in the blue pill days, I was enchanted and mesmerized by the female gender as a whole. Tell-a-Vision and a childhood steeped in Churchianity had me forever looking at the female gender as the only bright light in a world of shit. I was indoctrinated into becoming a worshiper at the feet of the pedestal of the “sacred feminine.”

The last thing I ever wanted to become, was a misogynist. No, I bought into the delusion that the key to being accepted and gain the approval of the female herd was to become the vaunted WhiteKnight-EmotionalTampon- InTouchWithMyFeelings- LJBF-NICE GUY.

Oh dear, we have to listen to the sad, boring tale of the Nice Guy once again.

All a woman…ANY woman (not just young, attractive ones)…had to do when I was younger, was smile at me or give me a pathetic pleading look, or a nice sounding request and I was ready to do her bidding. The bat of an eyelash or a supplicating sound of her voice had me ready to ask her “how high would you like me to jump?”

I helped ladies move, “lent” them money (never asked for it back, mostly never got paid back either), given them rides, helped them with homework, built them things, fixed their cars, bought them drinks and/or meals…anything any female in my life requested, I did. “NO” was not a part of my vocabulary when it came to dealing with the opposite gender.

Helping friends isn’t a character flaw. But you’re the one who made yourself into a doormat.

I also spent many a time with groups of female friends, joining in on the “all men are pigs” type of conversations. I’ve been that “one of the girls” guy on many an occasion. (“You’re so COOL! Why can’t more guys be like YOU?!” 

But, Galt assures us, he wasn’t one of those passive-aggressive, guilt-tripping dudes who tries to “nice guy” his crushes into bed.

I’m not talking about being the “nice guy” here in hopes of getting a romantic response from a particular female. These are women for whom I knew as friends, acquaintances, co-workers, colleagues etc. In other words, if it had a vagina, I said “yes dear” to any and every request, simply to live up to the expectations inculcated in my mind on how a “good man” is one who serves the feminine imperative.

My indoctrination and upbringing had trained me to seek feminine approval above anything else.

What the hell kind of “indoctrination” did you get? Did you grow up in some sort of Goddess Cult? I’ve never met a single other person who’s been “indoctrinated” in this fashion. It’s almost as though you’re exaggerating or just making shit up in such a way as to justify your present-day misogyny.

Oh, wait, you are:

I’ve come to the realization that misogyny is the inevitable antidote one must accept, after gaining an understanding of the ugly truth of the female imperative and how it works to enslave men for it’s own purpose.

Yes, the only two options for men in the contemporary world – the only two — are to either bend over backwards and do everything women ask them to do in a creepily self-abasing way while agreeing that “all men are pigs,” or to decide that women are shit. (It’s not like this is a logical fallacy or anything.)

Most women nowadays really are beneath contempt. Manipulative, conniving, self-centered and solipsistic…especially beautiful ones.

[citation needed]

I now understand that this is the result of the programming most females are inculcated with from the same mass media culture that programmed me to be a pedestal worshiper.

[citation needed]

Actually, ALL women are solipsistic and manipulative to a certain degree (AWALT). It is their very nature. The real problem is that our mass media culture encourages women to embrace it, revel in it, and use their power of attraction to manipulate for their own selfish ends. It has always been like this, I just never recognized it until the hindsight as seen through the clarity of understanding that came with taking the red pill.

You realize that what you call the “red pill” is just a slightly exaggerated and updated version of not-so-good old fashioned misogyny, which has been around since the beginnings of civilization if not earlier?

But one thing this misogynist will admit: Not all women are like that. Really. I know a few.

Dude, dude, you just literally said that ALL women ARE like that. Like, in the paragraph you just finished writing.

These are women who understand that the true path to happiness is creating a sphere of nurturing and contentment amongst her friends and family. Such women are a literal joy to be around. There contentment is infectious.

“There contentment?” If these women truly loved you, wouldn’t they help you proofread your drivel?

But for most women I meet, my baseline assumption is that they are contemptuous creatures not worthy of anything other than basic human consideration…unless and until they prove otherwise.

Well, my baseline assumption is that the dudes of the manosphere are a bunch of pompous douchenozzles. And so far, I’m not altogether happy to report, not one has provided even a shred of evidence suggesting otherwise.

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Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Sorry for the detour. I was just struck hard by his use of that word suddenly.

Eh, it’s more on topic than Mary’s drivel.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

Also,

“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.”
The Law of Moses
Exodus 21:22

So the Bible is against domestic violence, except towards members of your household whom you have purchased. Keep in mind, in the Old Testament, you were allowed to purchase woman as wives or concubines from their fathers, so the line between family and property was a touch blurry.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

Someone I care very deeply for escaped her physically and emotionally abusive Good Christian marriage after 15 years. She would have left earlier, but her entire support network told her that leaving would make her a sinner and a fallen woman, and they would side with her poor, abandoned abuser if she made that choice. She internalized those messages, and tried to be the best damn beaten wife she could possibly be; but when that (surprisingly) didn’t work, she finally worked up the courage to leave him and her whole community behind.

I think that’s one of the bravest things I’ve ever heard of. How about you, Sunshine? Do you agree? Or would the braver — or at least more moral — choice have been staying with him until she died a natural death or he killed her? And what about the community that supported him and continue to support him to this day? Enablers of abuse, or Good Christian Souls?

howardbann1ster
howardbann1ster
12 years ago

@Dracula: all too true.

@Ugh: the exact moment I decided that the words of the Bible couldn’t possibly be from any kind of God I would want to worship, after spending nearly thirty years of my life doing just that, came while I was staring down at that passage while listening to a preacher rant. (I had just highlighted the bit where if a woman grabs a man by the balls, she gets her hand chopped off, but if a man punches a pregnant woman so hard she miscarries, as long as she doesn’t die or become maimed it’s all cool… and if she does, it’s her husband who gets to pick the punishment, as he was the one wrong….. yeah.)

@Viscaria: It’s pretty hard for me to imagine anything worse in this life than telling battered women to stay with their abuser. Even the preacher I grew up with, a fundie of great ability to deny reality, would draw the line there, and tell women to get out, get away. That Mary tells them all to stay? CONTEMPTIBLE.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

@howard

To be honest, I think Randians have always struggled with trying to define the difference between “good selfishness” and “bad selfishness.” I mean, in a strict Objectivist sense, Galt was moral for being selfish and not wanting to pay taxes, but so so were everyone involved in the government that wanted his tax money.

I think most libertarians have this huge cognitive disconnect between “the selfish rich,” who are seen as moral epic heroes who should be celebrated, and “the selfish poor” who are seen as guilt-tripping theives.

howardbann1ster
howardbann1ster
12 years ago

Dangit! As the husband was the one wronged.

Sharculese
12 years ago

holy shit, everyone who’s still buying even a little into the idea that mary is ‘pleasant’ or ‘respectful’ instead of just a plain ‘ol mean-spirited bully who whines when her target pushes back needs to check her latest post.

http://thewomanandthedragon.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/20-reasons-for-a-woman-to-remain-a-virgin-until-her-wedding-night/

here’s how a pleasant, respectful person describes sandra fluke

shame[d] her entire family by appearing before congress to discuss how she’s been having so much sex that she just can’t even afford to buy that much birth control

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

@howard

Yeah, saying that it’s anyone’s job to stay with an abuser and “fix” a relationship is pretty much the encapsulation of everything wrong with the world. Not only is it blaming the victim, its recommending that the victim be victimized more, and complete a Sisyphean extra work project to boot.

It’d be pretty much the equivalent of Jesus not curing lepers, and instead telling lepers to bathe more, and maybe dig a hole to North America because there might be a cure there. Note: not something Jesus did.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
12 years ago

We have the double-whammy of unpleasant and uninformed!

C-C-C-COMBO!

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

@sharc

Haha the existence of that whole meme about Sandra Fluke is pretty much the best argument in history about why Americans need better sex ed. Like seriously, I literally cannot imagine anyone over ten years old believing that.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

Oh wow, she includes the ol’ “why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free?” chestnut. My aunt used that one on me once. Lessee:

Because I’m not a cow
Because if a man marries me he is not “buying” me
Because sex is something that’s enjoyed by both men AND women (trufax!)
Because if I ever get married (to a man or otherwise) I want it to be for reasons other than my partner just reeeeally wanting to get laid
Because anybody who puts a premium on my virginity is not worth looking at twice, nevermind committing to for a lifetime.

Sharculese
12 years ago

Haha the existence of that whole meme about Sandra Fluke is pretty much the best argument in history about why Americans need better sex ed.

well not if we werent all such slutty slut sluts we wouldnt!

howardbann1ster
howardbann1ster
12 years ago

@Ugh – Well, yeah! Randians still carry with them the baggage of the old Calvinistic view of the world where you couldn’t succeed unless you were more moral and a harder worker.

So if you succeed, you must be the kind of person who’s better at figuring out what’s good for society as a whole, and what’s in your best interest must be in society’s best interests.

Which… well, if the financial meltdown isn’t enough to show them otherwise, then … Invincible Ignorance.

@Sharculese: Yeah. And that’s also relying on secondary sources. Sandra Fluke’s actual testimony emphasized non-sex reasons for needing birth control. http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/02/16/427417/sandra-fluke-contraception-testimony/ Which is… a trivial difference, considering all the other things.

But that’s bearing false witness against Sandra Fluke. Hey, isn’t that against your religion, Mary?

Sharculese
12 years ago

she left off reason# 21: if you have any idea what sex is actually like, you can’t claim with a straight face that it’s the scariest, most awful thing in the history of the world

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

How many fucking times does it need to be said that birth control pills don’t work like that?! They aren’t condoms, they don’t work on a one pill per sex act bias. In fact, you could take the pill for medical reasons and not be having any sex at all, or have sex multiple times a day — same cost for the prescription!

Some other highlights from that post — getting married as a virgin prevents STDs. Because monogamy never ever involves cheating, nope. (And no virgin has ever caught an STD from a rapist…) Four of the 20 things on that list are “virgins don’t get STDs” — that’s a fifth, 1/5th of her “reasons” amount to dangerously wrong medical “advice”.

(I realize everyone here that isn’t Mary knows all this)

howardbann1ster
howardbann1ster
12 years ago

I’m pretty damn near asexual, and her list has so many misconceptions about sex that it’s enough to make me cry.

Did you know sex with a PUA will have you smelling their scent forever, making you frigid?

Well, actually, that might be true. Where’s the PUA-troll? What’s his word on that? Do women run around haunted by his scent and frigid? Further research needed.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

Haha what is the PUA scent? I’m calling a mixture of Axe body wash, actual cologne, and desperation.

WordSpinner
WordSpinner
12 years ago

These are the ones that stuck out to me:

will not be filled with regret for the rest of her life over her choice not to slut around before marriage

I can definitely see cases where people (of all genders) regret not “playing the field” more before marriage. For example, while Libby Anne of Love, Joy, Feminism is happily married, she’s struggling with sexual compatibility issues:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/05/the-purity-culture-and-sexual-incompatibility.html

will not murder her unborn child in utero due to “sperm gone awry”

Married women can get pregnant when they don’t want to be, too, and some of those will decide to have an abortion.

will be less likely to need expensive fertility treatments, once married, to overcome the ravaging effects of the chlamydia or gonorrhea she didn’t catch

Ummm… even if she’s a virgin, if hubby isn’t, he can give her diseases. Also, this is an argument for more screening and safe sex.

gets a nifty silver ring to wear until a wedding band of gold replaces it

Since when do you need to prove your virginity to wear a ring? I mean, I’ve got a couple of really lovely rings (one a family heirloom, one a present from my grandmother) and my wearing them or not is not contingent on the status of my hymen. Also, they are much prettier than just a silver band. Neither is the right to wear a white dress and a veil at any wedding night.

Also, if you are on hormonal birth control, you use the same amount no matter how much sex you are having. Don’t you know this? I mean, I’m a 21 year-old virgin who has been on bc since 7th grade, and the only difference is since I’m not sexually active I don’t have to be as careful about timing. Also, most married couples plan their children, so there’s not really a cost savings there.

Amnesia
Amnesia
12 years ago

9. will save money on all that unneeded birth control

Cause if you wait until marriage, pregnancy will only occur when you want it to happen?

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

I kind of automatically interpreted the sex with PUA = frigid one to mean she might have sex she enjoys with someone once, and then will no longer be satisfied with 2 minutes of nipple twirling followed by abrupt, unlubricated PIV.

Sharculese
12 years ago

Four of the 20 things on that list are “virgins don’t get STDs” — that’s a fifth, 1/5th of her “reasons” amount to dangerously wrong medical “advice”.

yeah, that’s the funny part. she couldnt actually come up with 20 different reasons, so she basically repeats a lot of the same ones in a different form

see also 1 and 14

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

will not murder her unborn child in utero due to “sperm gone awry”

The majority of women who have abortions are either married or common law. From a statistical point of view, the problem is all that MARRIED sex that’s going around.

Sharculese
12 years ago

19. has no unsightly genital warts to hide

we have this thing that does that pretty easily. it’s called pants.

Wisteria
Wisteria
12 years ago

howardbann1ster wrote: “…and that’s why the male-dominated world of finance and CEOs has never, ever created a global financial… um…”

Mary probably wasn’t referring to secular matters, but ecclesiastical matters. For example, when the male-dominated Roman Catholic Church realized that some of their priests were molesting children, they…uh…hmmm…um…

Pam
Pam
12 years ago

How many fucking times does it need to be said that birth control pills don’t work like that?!

Quit clouding the meme they want to hold dear to with facts!!!

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