Over on The Spearhead, the regulars are discussing the three young men who sacrificed their own lives to save their girlfriends in the chaos of the Aurora theater shootings.
Needless to say, many of them aren’t too keen on any act of heroism that might benefit a woman.
Here are the two highest-rated comments in the comment thread. (I have bolded some of the more egregious stuff.)
Young Guy writes:
Sacrifice was once expected of men and women, but it has only been expected of men since the social contract between men and women was torn up by feminists. Most women have been told their entire lives they can have it all, and their happiness is the most important thing in the universe, so most women hate the thought of having to give up anything or putting other people before themselves. Most relationships today are one-sided, so don’t be shocked when men shun marriage or take up pumping and dumping. That might sound harsh to some people, but most women did it to themselves.
Why should I give every ounce of my being for a woman when she is one bad mood away from tossing me onto the scrap heap? I have heard the horror stories from men who worked hard to provide for their families, only for it to mean nothing to their ungrateful ex-wives. I have seen men risk life and limb to protect women they loved, only to have the women in their lives leave them or forget about their sacrifices. It has been said men have obligations while women have options in our modern world, I and agree with that statement. Most women think the world is their oyster, and everyone should cater to them. Most men understand the world is a harsh place, and no one is going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Most women have done an excellent job pissing away all the goodwill men had towards them. I look at women my age, and I realize almost none of them are relationship material. Their entitlement is through the roof. They almost never say “thank you.” They demand chivalry even though they think they should never have to return the favor. They have been told any man who stands up for himself is guilty of abuse. It really is too much to ask of most women to be pleasant, keep the house clean, take care of the kids, and realize a relationship isn’t the Disney fairy-tale which they have been brainwashed with since birth.
Nietzsche (presumably not the ghost of the real Nietzsche) is a bit more concise:
They saved their lives so the girlfriends can be screwing other dudes in several months time…….. probably much less. Heroism is a suckers game.
These two comments each got nearly two dozen upvotes, even though the thread is still young.
Some other highlights of the thread:
Peter South agrees with Nietzsche’s assessment, but expects the girlfriends to move on even more quickly:
These young women will don black for the rest of their lives to mourn and commemorate the passing of these great fallen heroes.
Well ok they’ll be twittering, texting and yakking on their “smart phones” within a week about other guys…
But I think we can all agree that men generally make great meat shields.
Phil, meanwhile, derides the heroes as “suckers.”
Those boyfriends were suckers. These men were living in the past. The boyfriends were living in the 1700′s while modern day American women are living in feminist 2012. Modern day American women don’t live by the old social contract. The problem is men like these three don’t understand. These women will find new boyfriends and move on with their lives. The three men are dead. Gone forever. They died believing is something that doesn’t exist. It is tragic and disgusting.
Eric adds:
the grrlz who survived are probably moving on to the next cock even as we speak. And I’ll bet the types of guys they’re moving on to won’t be the type who’d take a bullet for them either.
Meanwhile, the lowest-rated comment in the thread, with more than two dozen downvotes and only 6 upvotes, is a comment from Georice81 praising the heroes, which starts off with:
The Bible says that there is no Greater Love than when a man gives up his life so that another man may live. I believe in this no matter what anyone may say, MRA or Feminist.
What these men did was heroic and defines what a true man should be. It isn’t a question of being a white knight. It is a question of being a brave man and a true man at that.
I guess the Spearheaders are only fans of traditionalism when it benefits them personally.
what is happening
Your facts and stats were bullshit. Next.
Wil, buddy, address your posts maybe.
Which post ?
Well this has gotten ridiculous — “Bears and Otters are two differnt things”
Bear versus otter — yes, I had to take that out of context, and no, I did not actually look for cute pics, they just happened to be in the top 10 results.
David — can we get an IP check?
@darksidecat:
“Oh no, feminist women, a (fake) gay man doesn’t find you sexy! Are you shamed into submission yet?”
I think I am getting the vapors just thinking about it. I am a woman, after all. That means that I *must* base my entire worth on the external validation I get from my looks and ability to attract the opposite sex. *Tee Hee*
Yes facts and stats are always” bullshit; when one does not agree. with them
David — either we’re having a Pell incident, or everyone is assuming we are and confusing our newest troll. I’m feeling a bit like this otter myself.
Ok guys I have heard the last of Wil is a troll, so I am done ,,,have a good night.
GUYS!! This douchebag broke my irony meter!! 🙁 I got that from my late grandmother asshole!! :'(
Was that your racist ass pretending that black people were responsible for most hate crimes against LGBT, when the evidence indicates that it is white people who were responsible for most LGBT hate crimes?
The most annoying thing about all this isn’t that everyone assumes I never get laid. It’s that they think I like Cheetos. : /
Wil: Yes facts and stats are always” bullshit; when one does not agree. with them
Um… nope. See you said, for one, that Blacks were responsible for GLBT being stripped of rights (that btw, is one of the reasons I think you are racist; because the actual facts are against you, and you neither bothered to look them up, nor accepted it when they were spoon fed to you, graphics and all).
And your college educated, investigator, self, is no good with argument, the written word, nor yet investigation (see above, re Blacks and LGBT).
So you had a little meltdown, because people find the oh so convenient dribs and drabs of story more than a little precious.
So this happened:
http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=843
Seems relevant.
@Dracula
I just read that like 5 minutes ago haha. They have had a couple strips that mentioned feminism and other social justice issues. Also if you follow Sinfest, it’s got a feminist theme going on right now but it’s rather one dimensional. I still can’t tell if the author is mocking it, genuinely thinking about it or both. I’d probably say it’s a bit of both.
I think it’s a matter of him using the comic to share his exploration of the subject with his audience through a humorous lens. So yeah, a little of both, and most of the mockery seems self deprecating.
Awesome. Being fat has never been such an asset! 😀
Y U NO LYK CHEETOS?! 🙁
Also, what is up with trolls (1) using misogyny (re: steele & ‘hysteria’) to prove they don’t hate women (2) devolving from half-ass attempt at creating a personality to OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS (3) insist that they can ignore everything anyone says, stomp their feet on their way out, and insist that they’ve ‘won’ because no one has provided any kind of evidence against their already-thoroughly-refuted claims?
Why are there no MRAs willing to come here in good faith?
Wil, please fuck off back to Spearhead. There are no impassioned defenses of cowardice and selfishness for you to enjoy here.
“Stevei Wonder”
This one time I thought I saw Stevie Wonder in the elevator at the airport, but then I realized it was just Stevei. And then I pooped in my elevator/bed and kicked it out/down the elevator shaft because feminism.
Seriously, how drunk is this guy? I’ve had 3 margaritas and I’m still too sober to grok his perspective.
>.< What is this I don't even.. Haha..
“Have you confused your personas troll? Remember, you’re pretending to be a mostly blind gay man right now, so whining about how feminist women aren’t attractive in appearance to you is rather…well…hilarious. You fail at trolling and at life.”
On what planet has there *not* been scores of gay men assessing women’s attractiveness? Not this one. But … I agree he’s a faker.
Also.
This thread is funneh.
Wow, you guys throw a good party….especially when a troll wanders into the room. When Wil started to get, uh, disorientated, I kept thinking about the time a possum accidentally wandered into my garage and couldn’t find its way out.
BTW, last word I heard on that ‘urban young childless women make more than men’ study, wasn’t it comparing college-educated women to all men? More of a sign of the education gap than anything, swings the other way when you control for education?
Echidne had some stuff on that. Going to go look for it.
Ah, here.
http://echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com/search?q=wage+gap