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MRAs: The men who lost their lives protecting their girlfriends in the Aurora theater shooting were “suckers.”

Over on The Spearhead, the regulars are discussing the three young men who sacrificed their own lives to save their girlfriends in the chaos of the Aurora theater shootings.

Needless to say, many of them aren’t too keen on any act of heroism that might benefit a woman.

Here are the two highest-rated comments in the comment thread. (I have bolded some of the more egregious stuff.)

Young Guy writes:

Sacrifice was once expected of men and women, but it has only been expected of men since the social contract between men and women was torn up by feminists. Most women have been told their entire lives they can have it all, and their happiness is the most important thing in the universe, so most women hate the thought of having to give up anything or putting other people before themselves. Most relationships today are one-sided, so don’t be shocked when men shun marriage or take up pumping and dumping. That might sound harsh to some people, but most women did it to themselves.

Why should I give every ounce of my being for a woman when she is one bad mood away from tossing me onto the scrap heap? I have heard the horror stories from men who worked hard to provide for their families, only for it to mean nothing to their ungrateful ex-wives. I have seen men risk life and limb to protect women they loved, only to have the women in their lives leave them or forget about their sacrifices. It has been said men have obligations while women have options in our modern world, I and agree with that statement. Most women think the world is their oyster, and everyone should cater to them. Most men understand the world is a harsh place, and no one is going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Most women have done an excellent job pissing away all the goodwill men had towards them. I look at women my age, and I realize almost none of them are relationship material. Their entitlement is through the roof. They almost never say “thank you.” They demand chivalry even though they think they should never have to return the favor. They have been told any man who stands up for himself is guilty of abuse. It really is too much to ask of most women to be pleasant, keep the house clean, take care of the kids, and realize a relationship isn’t the Disney fairy-tale which they have been brainwashed with since birth.

Nietzsche (presumably not the ghost of the real Nietzsche) is a bit more concise:

They saved their lives so the girlfriends can be screwing other dudes in several months time…….. probably much less. Heroism is a suckers game.

These two comments each got nearly two dozen upvotes, even though the thread is still young.

Some other highlights of the thread:

Peter South agrees with Nietzsche’s assessment, but expects the girlfriends to move on even more quickly:

These young women will don black for the rest of their lives to mourn and commemorate the passing of these great fallen heroes.

Well ok they’ll be twittering, texting and yakking on their “smart phones” within a week about other guys…

But I think we can all agree that men generally make great meat shields.

Phil, meanwhile, derides the heroes as “suckers.”

Those boyfriends were suckers. These men were living in the past. The boyfriends were living in the 1700′s while modern day American women are living in feminist 2012. Modern day American women don’t live by the old social contract. The problem is men like these three don’t understand. These women will find new boyfriends and move on with their lives. The three men are dead. Gone forever. They died believing is something that doesn’t exist. It is tragic and disgusting.

Eric adds:

the grrlz who survived are probably moving on to the next cock even as we speak. And I’ll bet the types of guys they’re moving on to won’t be the type who’d take a bullet for them either.

Meanwhile, the lowest-rated comment in the thread, with more than two dozen downvotes and only 6 upvotes, is a comment from Georice81 praising the heroes, which starts off with:

The Bible says that there is no Greater Love than when a man gives up his life so that another man may live. I believe in this no matter what anyone may say, MRA or Feminist.

What these men did was heroic and defines what a true man should be. It isn’t a question of being a white knight. It is a question of being a brave man and a true man at that.

I guess the Spearheaders are only fans of traditionalism when it benefits them personally.

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nwoslave
12 years ago

@Amused
Your story belongs in the fiction section of bad novels. Lying is a feminists best friend. Look how many privileges women have gotten thus far.

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

I am talking about ”the black community” has a whole, which are LGBT’s largest opponents.

African Americans are actuallly more likely to support marriage equality than the national average (59% vs. 54%).

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/07/marriage_equality_polls_infographic.html/

Looking things up! It works.

Sharculese
Sharculese
12 years ago

Dani ,you are not getting it, I know there are LGBTs in every race ,and if you are black and gay in the black community the chances are much greater you will be beaten, killed ,or both. I am talking about ” the black community” has a whole, which are LGBT’s largest opponents. Black democrtates vote against LGBT rights more than white republicans.

yeah, who could forget noted black people anita bryant, robert george, and maggie gallagher

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

Dude, how is the OP classified as snark? I have yet to see mainstream feminist sites hurl vitriol at straight men. I’ve seen criticism and snark yes, I have yet to see “modern men are such dickbags that only an idiot would get in a relationship with them”. I have yet to see any mainstream feminist site advocate or insinuate that modern men are better steered clear of altogether because one is almost sure to get raped or beaten. And so on.

Also, you keep making claims about the black community but you have yet to show evidence for your claims. Yes, there is a problem with homophobia in the black community. It may well be a larger problem than in some other communities. But I have seen no evidence that it is the most homophobic community.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

And people, as usual, have done more homework than me :$

Wil
Wil
12 years ago
Reply to  Sharculese

So you do not know of the hundreds of black leaders that come out against gay marriage? Even MLKs Neice vocally bashed gays

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

Sharculese, sometimes you are the wind beneath my wings.

Wil
Wil
12 years ago
Reply to  Ugh

Ugh now that President Obama came out for them they are ok with it ,but before then we lost to Prop 8 in CA ,and many other states due to the voting black populattion.

Sharculese
Sharculese
12 years ago

@rutee

likewise

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

So you do not know of the hundreds of black leaders that come out against gay marriage? Even MLKs Neice vocally bashed gays

And most gay leaders were and still are racist assholes, just as you’re being a fucking stupid racist. Because most of them are white. it’s not the gay that makes them be racists, and it’s not the black that makes them be heterosexists, you clueless fucking asshole.

howardbann1ster
howardbann1ster
12 years ago

MLK’s anti-choice anti-feminist neice? That one?

Sorry, Wil, that doesn’t actually support your argument as posed in any way.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

So you do not know of the hundreds of black leaders that come out against gay marriage? Even MLKs Neice vocally bashed gays

Oh, i do. I also know of 100s of White leaders, Asian leaders, South Asian leaders, Latin leaders. Homophobia is a widespread problem dude, noone here (but you) is claiming otherwise.

Anathema
Anathema
12 years ago

@ Dani Alexis:

I’m currently working a summer job as a document clerk at a law firm. Even my fellow document clerks are much better at writing than our troll here.

I highly doubt that he works at a law firm of any sort. And the idea that he’s a lawyer of any sort is simply ridiculous.

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

Ugh now that President Obama came out for them they are ok with it ,but before then we lost to Prop 8 in CA ,and many other states due to the voting black populattion

So the 20% of the voting population that is black lost you the vote? Not the 80% that is white? Fucking racist asshole.

Sharculese
Sharculese
12 years ago

Ugh now that President Obama came out for them they are ok with it .

yeah, ‘those people’ sure do think of everything in group terms. not like us calm, rational whites.

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

Also, Obama is not the emperor of black people. I meant to say that first too.

ithiliana
12 years ago

@Wil: STRAIGHT Black people have 1700 more rights than I do

Fixed that for you.

I have read that most violence, including rape, is same-race, which means it’s MORE likely for a gay black man to get beaten by homophobic straight black man.

So, you don’t seem to know that there are GLBT men and women of color, not to mention GLBT feminists.

So that leaves you, white cis gay dude, as the MOST OPPRESSED.

Yah, right, get a grip.

(Queer white woman living in frakking rural TEXAS, dude!)

Sharculese
Sharculese
12 years ago

Your story belongs in the fiction section of bad novels

as opposed to the fact section of bad novels, of course

Ugh
Ugh
12 years ago

Statistically untrue. More than half of non-black voters (51%) also voted “yes.”

Also, what’s your problem now? You were upset that black leaders came out against lgbtq rights, and now the world’s mopst prominent black man came out for them. You were upset that the black community wasn’t as supportive on the whole of lgbtq rights, and now they are statistically more supportive than white people. Why do you still have an axe to grind? Maybe it would be better to concentrate on the demographics whose support is below the national average, like seniors (35%), men (52%), and Republicans (28%).

Sharculese
Sharculese
12 years ago

also owlslave, amused’s story wasnt even about profiling per se, it was about the degrading nature of stop and frisks, which given your slobbering hatred of authority i figure you’d agree with

what changed- was it that it was happening to black people, or is it your pathological need to disagree with feminists

Amused
12 years ago

NWOSlave: Oh, you’re going to start talking about “bad novels” now? Hey, you’ve never read a novel in your life, good, bad, or anything in between, so it’s not like you would know the difference, anyway.

Okay, okay, maybe you’ve read “Turner Diaries” — which is, obviously, really bad. Still, I don’t see how you would know, given that you have no familiarity with good literature for comparison.

howardbann1ster
howardbann1ster
12 years ago

@NWOslave

You mentioned the other day that you don’t drink. Out of curiosity, is that a personal choice or a teaching of your church? (I ask, as one who’s church sat on the divide of a schism between total teetotalers and ‘no drunkeness’ teaching)

Not relevant to anything, or a gotcha. Just curious.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

what changed- was it that it was happening to black people, or is it your pathological need to disagree with feminists

Probably a little bit of both. NWO always talks about the intrusiveness of “Big Daddy” and “state sanctioned violence” but he’s a huge racist so I’m sure the bigotry trumps the rhetoric.

blitzgal
12 years ago

Ugh now that President Obama came out for them they are ok with it ,but before then we lost to Prop 8 in CA ,and many other states due to the voting black populattion

This theory was floated right after the vote but it has since been debunked. Please do keep up.

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Black-support-for-Prop-8-called-exaggeration-3177138.php

Wil
Wil
12 years ago
Reply to  blitzgal

No sir the source I trust is Gallup just as I trust the AMA instead of a health food site that is a random collection of hear say.

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