Yep, that’s right, the “clopping” sound of high heels are a form of “street harassment.” I found the screenshot above on a promising new blog you can find at MensRightsActivism.com. Yep, that’s right. Evidently it never occurred to anyone in the Men’s Rights movement to lock down that domain name.
Oh, this little Reddit screenshot is good too:
How exactly does saying “consent is sexy” mean that male consent is taken for granted? How is it that 59 people thought that comment deserved an upvote?
I can’t answer either question, but there’s lots more hilarious and appalling stuff where that came from, mostly from the Men’s Rights subreddit. It’s going in the “antidotes to boobery” blog roll.
ShadetheDruid: That pose makes me go all Admiral Ackbar: ‘It’s a TRAP!!!’ Because Crazypants does that, and she has this adorable spotted belly, but when you go in to pet, she grabs your hand and tries to kill it.
Why does it matter what you and your classmates were or were not aware of, gramps? That’s really not relevant to much of anything.
Like burgandy said, conversations here would go better for you if you’d try not to make broad sweeping statements when what you actually mean is “in my experience at the time, which I acknowledge was limited…”. And even better than that if you would drop the idea that if things that used to be true in your limited experience are no longer true that’s somehow an indication that something is wrong with society. Things change.
I really wish I could take that kitty, but idfk where I’m going to be living next month, so no, I cannot take in a cat. My cousin’s girlfriend found her, and her kids and his both love the kitty, so she’s staying. Definitely a cute little fuzzball.
cloudiah — enjoy the movie!
Kitty is adorable. Attempted “I bet that’s not really your cousin’s cat” insult was odd.
Thank you burgundy for your advice. And you’re correct. I can see I’m in over my head and there’s a feeding frenzy going on. I’m used to people I’m around busting my balls due to my advanced age. And for the record the only groups I belong to are AARP and the VFW. I have seen You Tube videos with the MRAs you speak of and from time to time they make a point but for the most part I think they’re just a bunch of crybabies. I am 100% against rape. I want to see convicted rapists sent to prison forever. But, I don’t want innocent people going to jail for any reason. False rape allegations, although rare, hurt not only the unjustly accused but the victims who actually were raped. I have no agenda. I go from blog to blog. I read awhile ago in AARP it’s good to associate with people of all age groups, not just my own age. Also doctors tell old people like me all the time to keep my mind working to avoid dementia. So that’s all I’m really doing is actually trying to learn about all kinds of things. It’s really that simple.
Again thank you for the advice
Yes kathleen , I had a transister radio and I only listened to rock and roll. I was not a very good student either. Your father seems like a much smarter man than I.
“I have seen You Tube videos with the MRAs you speak of and from time to time they make a point but for the most part I think they’re just a bunch of crybabies.”
I have yet to see an example of the former, but in terms of the latter you are entirely correct. You might want to keep that in mind when evaluating even those cases where you initially think they might have a point – they’re rather prone fond of exaggeration.
Yes Argenti lie the saying “Youth is wasted on the youth”
Dammit why can’t I edit today? Sorry for the confusion, all, sleep deprivation is messing with me. Case in point – “they’re rather prone fond of exaggeration.”
Oops.
Thank you Cassandra
I never said said things don’t change Cassandra. I was only trying to say that things were much different 50 years ago. And they were. And I never said I was the best informed then or now. My IQ is slightly below average on a good day with a wind at my back. D
“Also doctors tell old people like me all the time to keep my mind working to avoid dementia.”
Try a crossword puzzle, or sudoku (that isn’t sarcasm, I know the studies that lead them to say that, and logic puzzles are much better than making claims online that get you laughed at)
“I want to see convicted rapists sent to prison forever.”
This is just a guess here, but I don’t think that’d improve either the conviction rate, or the reporting rate. The vast majority of rapists are former or current intimate partners, which makes me think that increasing the punishment by that much would only make people even less inclined to report it. I might be wrong there, but one of the male victims I know didn’t report it because it was his recently-ex-girlfriend and he still loved her. I’m not usre how much that was a factor, versus, well, shit you aren’t helping — the whole “men can’t be raped” thing only prevents male victims from reporting it.
Oh and I don’t recommend calling MRAs crybabies to them, unless you want to be called either a white knight or a mangina. Of course, those insults are about as bad as “you big poopyhead!” but yeah, they’re meta crybabies (and all our regular MRAs hate me already, so whatever)
“they’re meta crybabies”
Did you mean mega? Although meta crybabies is an interesting concept too.
grampmk — are you ending posts with D because you’re trying to insert a smiley face? You want : D to make 😀 (without the space)
Cassandra — “Dammit why can’t I edit today?” — I’m blaming the mango juice and vodka myself, though I was thankfully not drunk enough to have a hang over this morning.
No, I meant meta, not that mega doesn’t apply. Calling them crybabies will only make them whine louder.
Case in point – the urinal post.
grampmk: He was brilliant. Two patents, spent a weekend in jail helping voter registration drives in… somewhere in the south, mentored about a zillion people in the finer points of bonsai, a hell of a life. Ended far, far too soon.
Yes Argenti I know about the crosswords, problem is they bore me. And if you don’t like something, you tend not to do it. I actually enjoy surfing the net. I have an opinion poll site and a sports site I go to a lot. Blogs like this one are only in the last 3 months or so and I’ve actually learned a lot. But I do have a serious question for you.
I might be wrong there, but one of the male victims I know didn’t report it because it was his recently-ex-girlfriend and he still loved her. I’m not usre how much that was a factor, versus, well, shit you aren’t helping — the whole “men can’t be raped” thing only prevents male victims from reporting it.
I completely believe what you said. I understand why feminists want the rape laws made better to get more convictions, but and don’t take this the wrong way, why do feminists bring up male rape so much and in particular female on male rape?
You sound very proud Kathleen and you should be. How old was he when he passed?
Thank you Argenti
“I completely believe what you said. I understand why feminists want the rape laws made better to get more convictions, but and don’t take this the wrong way, why do feminists bring up male rape so much and in particular female on male rape?”
Maybe it’s the context, but that is screaming “trick question”. In general, we don’t, we bring up things like how rape is usually acquaintance (not stranger) rape, how rape victims are blamed for their rape, etc. In the context of manboobz, remember those MRAs? Well they like to claim that men are raped more often than women and that feminists don’t care (or more hilariously, that feminists support the rape of boys). Thus we end up pointing out, with frequency that men can be raped too.
As for “in particular female on male rape” — because that shit doesn’t get enough air time, so to speak. It’s unspoken of in general, to the point that you said previously that you can’t wrap your head around it happening. This discussion has been focused on male victims because you were questioning whether they actually exist, and they do (I’ll point you to that CDC data if you haven’t looked at it yet).
grampmk, here is my answer to your question. I can’t pretend to speak for anyone else.
My belief, as a feminist, is that the way our culture handles gender is toxic to both men and women (and people outside the gender binary). If you google the phrase “patriarchy hurts men too” you will find more information on that. For example, the idea that men should be the ambitious, hard-working breadwinners, while women are automatically nurturing and should take care of children, is bad for both – it impacts women’s career options, and makes many women feel guilty about their life choices, but it also negatively affects men who are nurturing, and might want to care for children (e.g. child custody disputes).
So, rape. Rape is pretty complicated. I do not feel up to a Rape Culture 101 right now, although you can also google “rape culture,” or maybe someone here will talk about it. But the point is, I want life to be better for everyone, and feminism is one way of getting there. It’s not about women vs men, or putting men down to give women a step up. The cultural ideas we have about gender and sexuality cause a lot of harm, and it would be ridiculous to address that only in terms of male-on-female rape, without also talking about same-sex rape or female-on-male rape. After all, the cultural change that I’m striving for will address all of it.
Also, MRAs like to go on about female-on-male rape as a great tragedy that feminists are indifferent to (even though they don’t seem to show much compassion for male rape survivors or do much work to address the issue), so sometimes we have to shout a little louder about it to counter that lie.
Also we end up talking about men being raped by women because we have one regular MRA troll who believes that it’s impossible, because he thinks he would like it if a woman raped him (this is the same guy who thinks that pre-teen girls wear swimsuits to the beach in order to deliberately arouse him, so his perspective is, um, a bit off). This is of course rather upsetting to read for any man who actually has been raped or otherwise sexually assaulted by a woman, so we try to counteract his nastiness.
grampmk: Dad was 65.
@Grampmk:
First off, I’m nearly 57, and so only a few years younger than you (considering some of my classmates’ older brothers fought in VietNam). I remember the Sixties, though probably differently than you (I am a queer woman who never wanted to get married, never wanted to have children, and never wanted to depend on a man, esp. after my father dumped my mother for his graduate student). I have succeeded at all those.
The fifties and sixties fucking SUCKED for white women; they SUCKED even more for men and women of color (want to claim that black women were treated with respect back then? Or that the Civil Rights Movement didn’t exist?).
The Feminine Mystique was published in 1963.
The Second sex was published in 1949–in French of course, which probably doesn’t count.
Title IX is about a whole shitload of things other than sports. Just because testorone riddled numbnuts think that men’s sports are being ruined (contradicted by all the evidence out there), and no football teams are ever allowed to form without equal women on them (ditto), and so the context most people hear about TIX in is sports doesn’t mean that’s correct.
In fact, huge amounts of what people say and post on the internet is inaccurate (CHECK THE SOURCES)!
However, given how many girls and women leaped into sports participation once they had the chance, that sort of meant that girls and women when you and I were younger might have wanted it.
Plus, don’t you know about Babe Didrikson, and oh, The All American Girls Professional Baseball League.
Then there was that happy day when Billie Jean King licked the shirt off Bobbie Riggs, ahahahahah!
And I’m an English teacher, and don’t like sports, and mostly got hit in the face and my glasses broke when I tried, but I fucking know more about women and sports that you do, you manly man you!