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A Voice for Men has 99 problems, and the word “bitch” is one.

Here’s JohnTheOther on A Voice for Men, complaining that Australian journalist Tory Shepard has unfairly accused “men’s rights extremists” associated with AVFM of using the term “lying bitches.”

“[L]ying bitches” might have [been] pulled from from a reader’s comment on one of more than 1200 articles on AVfM. But that phrase forms no part of this human rights movement’s standard rhetoric, which if Shepherd were a journalist, she would know.

Huh. Yeah, it’s probably just some sort of incredible fluke. Just one reader’s comment on one of more than 1200 articles!

Oops, I guess it was used more than once.

But it’s not like this sort of language is encouraged by JtO or his boss Paul Elam.

No, not at all!

To be fair, they don’t always refer to women as bitches. Sometimes they refer to women by the much more genteel “cunt.”

Like the time Elam described the CEO of the Good Men Project as “a disingenuous cunt that makes her living off trying to turn men into lap dogs.” And the time he referred to comedic actress Katherine Heigl as a “misandric cunt.” Oh, and that time he referred to a commenter on his site as “Ms. Cuntforbrains, or if you are male, Mr. Cuntforbrains.” And the time he referred to the feminist blogosphere as the “cunt-o-sphere.” Very witty!

I know, it’s unfair to cherry-pick comments from the guy who actually started and runs A Voice for Men. Clearly he isn’t representative of the site at all.

(Note: Yes, I did say yesterday that I wasn’t going to read that JtO post on general principle. And yes, I did read a little bit more of it. But I have not read the whole thing, and I never will!)

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Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

pecunium — I’m taking that question less as an honest question and more as baiting me not to ignore him, because there’s no fucking way he’d consider any answer besides mine valid (not that he actually gives a shit about anything I say).

uncissed might be the worst thing I’ve heard today, but Ruby’s comment there is real competition, and it’s my damned birthday, I don’t want to figure out which is worse.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

Oh and you’re right about slander, but he meant libel in context.

Fembot
Fembot
12 years ago

Happy Birthday, Argenti Aertheri 😀

Are you having cake?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

Fembot — seeing how that’d require me to make a cake, no cake…I am pondering breaking into the vodka soon though. And thank you! 🙂

Actually, double thank you, I don’t seem to have much to mix my vodka with, I should run out while cvs is still open. I’m thinking mango juice and vodka, since OJ will just piss off my stomach. Drinks anyone?

Fembot
Fembot
12 years ago

Mango juice and vodka is yummy.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Happy birthday! Fresh juice of the Odwalla/similar kind is usually good with vodka.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

Ok Cassandra actually is as psychic as her namesake, I’ve just mixed myself up some Odwalla mango juice and vodka…nicely done there. And thank you 🙂

cloudiah
cloudiah
12 years ago

Happy birthday, Argenti!

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
12 years ago

Happy birthday!

red_locker
red_locker
12 years ago

Happy Birthday!

Party hard.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

Happy (possibly late) birthday from me too!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

Meep, I didn’t mean to derail the thread with my birthday, but thank you all!

pecunium
12 years ago

No apologies needed. Happy times are better than NWO rants. I will pass on Mango, it is the sweat of demons, distilled and fermented, I abhor it.

I shall have some pleasant bevande which pleaseth me, in your honor.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

“I will pass on Mango, it is the sweat of demons, distilled and fermented, I abhor it.”

Seeing how that’s basically how I feel about avocado, enjoy the bevande. To bad my best friend is in CT still or I’d have some Russian toasts, but I’m sure you know some yourself. (It isn’t mango vodka though, it’s mango juice and Gordon’s vodka, which was interesting to mix, the vodka hung in suspension for a bit, I wasn’t expecting that!)

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Happy Birthday! *much rejoicing*

pecunium
12 years ago

I abjure and renounce Mango: its acts, teachings, and works, in all it’s forms and manifestions. It anathema, a blight on the face of the earth. I declare it to be an abomination in the sight God and all right thinking people.

Other people may, reasonably disagree (gustabus non disputandem, and all that), but only insofar as they don’t serve it to me; nor expect me to let them ripen in my home.

🙂

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

What pecunium said, but with brussel sprouts.

Fembot
Fembot
12 years ago

I love mango and brussel sprouts 🙁

BigMomma
BigMomma
12 years ago

Happy Birthday, Argenti, i raise my cup of tea to your vodka glass *chink*

(sadly,i am sworn off alcohol this month as part of “dry july” fundraiser for cancer survivors)

Ithiliana
12 years ago

@Argenti:

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Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

“I abjure and renounce Mango: its acts, teachings, and works, in all it’s forms and manifestions. It anathema, a blight on the face of the earth. I declare it to be an abomination in the sight God and all right thinking people.”

Yeah well, we’ve already established that I’m nuts…and I can deal with dropping the de of de gustibus non est disputandem, but disputandem isn’t a proper verb without the est (then again, I guess dropping the to be verb would be the Pittsburghese of Latin?)

Cassandra — seconding the ick, brussel spouts. (Sorry fembot!)

And again, thank you everyone! 🙂

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

BigMomma — that’s ok, it’s always time for tea (and now it’s time for my random EA song of the day!…this one is live, and probably NSFW, unless women in corsets and underwear is SF-where-you-W)

http://youtu.be/b5sKzgBojmQ

Ithiliana — ASCII cake, D’AWW!

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

Mango… distilled and fermented

Would that be possible? Is there any particular reason spirits (as opposed to liquers or infusions) featuring larger/”fruitier” fruits aren’t really A Thing? I can only think of apple/pear/plum brandies, which aren’t very popular, and triple sec, which is from orange peels rather than the fruit itself, but that’s about it. It could have something to do with fruit being more expensive than grains/cacti/tubers as used for most of the popular spirits, but brandy’s still A Thing.

Any distillation/spirits-savvy people here?

pecunium
12 years ago

Argenti: I defer to you, and blame my abilty to decipher it, rather than speak it; and futher the way “to be” isn’t used in Russian.

That’s it… it’s the Russians’ fault.

pecunium
12 years ago

lowwuacks: Properly, the ferment is then distilled.

As to why “heavier fruits” aren’t so much fermented… the other sugars, esters, and compounds tend to get really foul.

That said, if it can be fermented, someone has done it (Orange wine.. bad. Grapefruit wine, worse).

Cherries, peaches, apricots, have all been used as ways of getting a ferment to distill, but it’s trickier, and many of the things which are, “brandy” are actually infusions.

Probably the most “interesting” of those that I am aware of is Cynar, which is distilled from fermented artichokes. It looks like Nyquil (that second letter is the same; coincidence… one has to wonder: I think not!), and it’s the only distilled beverage I have flat out refused to essay, the assay of my nose prevents me.