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The Lighter Side of Tom Martin (the repulsive British MRA)

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The other day we took a look at some of the more reprehensible opinions of Tom Martin, one of the UK’s most prominent Men’s Rights Activists and a man who evidently believes that child prostitutes are taking the easy way out to avoid having to get real jobs. He returned with even worse stuff, which I highlighted in my previous post.

Happily for all of us, not all of Martin’s views are this reprehensible. Many are merely ridiculous. So, today, let’s look at the Lighter Side of Tom Martin, as evidenced by some of his recent comments here on Man Boobz.

Martin apparently spent last Sunday working on a video project which involved him buttonholing passers-by on the streets of London and asking them questions in order to “prove” his various crackpot theories about gender. Here’s how he explained one aspect of his video research:

After shooting my video experiment tomorrow to discover who is more sexist on the street, women or women, I will be shooting another short, investigating if there is a correlation between unfunny women and prostitution ethic. I believe women could be as funny as men on average if they tried, but instead, invest in whoring strategies. I have a reliable street experiment to investigate this hypothesis also  …

If I can establish that women can be as funny as men (in a zero prostitution environment), then this video experiment will be released in a news piece, and used as a springboard to pre-sell the feature-length documentary it will form a part of, on a related topic.

Good luck with that!

Martin also took on the contentious (to him) subject of male baldness, a topic of intense interest to him, due to certain factors with regard to gender and misandry … er, long story short, he’s  bald. Sorry, balding.

After one commenter here suggested that Martin’s ambition was to become a sort of “Ann Coulter … with less hair and more swearing,” he took umbrage – not at the comparison to Coulter but at the bit about hair.

Well Cassandra, there are five new baldness treatments in the pipeline, but no drugs for treating a receding personality, so what are you going to do?

In a followup comment, the man whose favorite word in the English language is “whore,” used as an insult, declared we were being a bunch of evil meanies for even mentioning the whole (lack of) hair thing:

Cassandra, thanks to your receding personality (for which there is already a cure – renunciation therapy), I have decided for my filmed experiment tomorrow to also measure the degree to which each sex is prepared to make physical insults about the other sex.

Even if you specifically were fat for instance, and it was all your own fault because you refuse to get a job, I would never mention it in a debate with you. I debated an obese woman once. She ordered a pizza whilst we were still on stage, but I did not refer to it at the time, because of the most basic standards of decorum.

This I believe was an attempt at a joke.

How many manboobzers are prepared now to concur that Cassandra was being a douche by picking on an involuntary physiological characteristic of a debating opponent? And then encouraging others to do the same?

Of course, in Martin’s mind, mocking women as fat whores  is totally cool, because:

Fatness is a choice, ladies, and so is being a whore. Going bald (currently) is not, due to poor efficacy of available treatments, including transplants. That will change, if Aderans, Histogen, Replicel, Allergen and Tsuji-Lab among others have anything to do with it. All you need to do in the meantime is shut the fuck up until they sort it out. The apparent acceptability of attacking the bald though, is a great example of the lack of equality men have. People do not generally attack or humiliate women who are going bald – but when it’s a man…

Uh, yeah, that’s why virtually every bald or balding woman wears a hat or a wig, while bald or balding men just comb it over or shave it all off.

Evidently Martin feels that even a mention of his lack of hair is some kind of hate crime. Here, prominent Bald Rights Activist Larry David tries to convince authorities to investigate a similar hate crime against him.

Note to Martin: Larry David’s show, “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is fictional.

(Note: Tom Martin has confirmed that this is indeed him posting comments here on Man Boobz by sending an email from the account associated with his website Sexismbusters.org. Also, he’s retweeted quotes from his comments here. Contact him via his web site if you are skeptical.)

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2-D Man
2-D Man
12 years ago

Honestly, Steele, do you think well funded feminist organizations actually give a shit about the MRM? How much value can there be in discrediting MRAs?

You’re a bunch of do-nothings. You’ve had two rallies with a total of about six people. The most common theme in threads in the manosphere isn’t an action plan to gain leverage, it’s idiocy about non-issues like false-rape accusations, Fallout-esque wet dreams, chromosomal-makeup segregation*, and proper techniques in negging.

You only represent a threat on an individual level and that’s to people in your spacial and emotional vicinity. Discrediting you is a bit like discrediting psychopaths as a group; who would go to the trouble?

* I’d say ‘gender’ but your movement doesn’t seem to resonate with trans people. Funny that.

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

I know you think the last word is everything, but you’re one man racing against a relay here.

I of course realize that Boobzland is permeated with contemptible anti-male ideology and vile deniers of misandry and men’s pain, as well as those who acknowledge said pain but assert that said pain is less important than women’s. It’s daunting, but I feel compelled to offer a grain of truth and compassion in the comments section. And again, I comment efficiently.

2-D Man
2-D Man
12 years ago

And again, I comment efficiently.

Thinking does reduce one’s time-efficiency.

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

* I’d say ‘gender’ but your movement doesn’t seem to resonate with trans people. Funny that.

It’s not really chromosomes or gender. It’s MRA identification. They couldn’t give less of a shit about gay men, black men, feminine men, male victims of violence (sometimes they show up, but far, far more often, we hear about how various trivial shit is “the male equivalent of rape”) or men with inconvenient political beliefs, too.

Even the “segregated city” concept didn’t want any “manginas” in their treehouse.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

And again, I comment efficiently.

I think the word you’re looking for is “pompously”.

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

Wait…Steele’s doubling down on the “feminist mole” conspiracy theory? OMG, that’s too precious!

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Oh, Steele’s back? Yaaaaawn.

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

They couldn’t give less of a shit about gay men, black men, feminine men, male victims of violence (sometimes they show up, but far, far more often, we hear about how various trivial shit is “the male equivalent of rape”) or men with inconvenient political beliefs, too.

Excuse me? I don’t deny that the Movement has problems with inclusiveness, but this is not unique to the Movement. Every rights movement shares these issues. The great and holy feminism has had big problems with being disproportionately white and middle class.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Or, “obsessively”, “dishonestly”, “constantly”, take your pick.

2-D Man
2-D Man
12 years ago

It’s not really chromosomes or gender. It’s MRA identification.

GAH! MY COMMENT ISN’T PERFECT! THIS IS misandry!

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

Everyone who makes the MRM look bad is either 1) no true MRA or 2) a feminist mole. Of course, this raises the question, Steele: which one are you?

Tom Martin
12 years ago

Statutory rape of a child is different from real child rape.

And a Brazilian high court has just ruled, that a man having sex with a prostitute who is underage, should not be treated as if he has raped or charmed any 12 year old, but the 12 year old’s behaviour has to be taken into account, so if for instance she is a child prostitute, targeting pedophiles, then this should be taken into account:

http://www.beinglatino.us/politics-2/mundo/brazilian-court-makes-child-prostitutes-criminals/

Brazil’s age of consent is 14, and prostitution is legal in Brazil so it seems some judges agree with me, in some respects

Brazil has the highest number of child prostitutes after Thailand, so I’m guessing they’re taking a pragmatic approach to reduce the numbers, which in Brazil’s relatively poor case might involve saying to the 12 year old, “Hey, if you want to be a prostitute, go ahead, but don’t expect any victims of crime compensation (or to be able to blackmail your customers out of any more money after the act) – as happened with Garry Glitter’s child prostitute’s mother for instance, who kept getting paid off by Glitter in order that she would agree to waive the potential death sentence on him.

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

CaptainBathrobe – Steele is the MRM.

He is also, at times, Torvus Botthorn or Mikael Varpole.

So it’s a growing movement, you see.

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

I admit I did utilize a sockpuppet; nonetheless, your blind acceptance of said fact despite any closure up until now, has been noted.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

I admit I did utilize a sockpuppet; nonetheless, your blind acceptance of said fact despite any closure up until now, has been noted.

“It’s true I did sockpuppet, but you believing it makes you gullible… somehow.”

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

I admit I did utilize a sockpuppet; nonetheless, your blind acceptance of said fact despite any closure up until now, has been noted.

“How dare you accept on blind faith that something happened… okay so it did happen, but that’s not the point!”

This is what I mean about feminists not needing any help.

Sharculese
Sharculese
12 years ago

is mikey still blaming feminism for the fact that he’s lazy? lol.

2-D Man
2-D Man
12 years ago

Shorter Steele: You should have trusted me when I lied to you!

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

This is what I mean about feminists not needing any help.

Vile strawman. I’ve copped to my mistake- . But from a logical point of view, your gormless acceptance of Futrelle’s assertion is troubling and telling, indicative of low intelligence.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

So Tom, what do think of Steele calling you a feminist plant? Is it true that you’re No True MRA? Dude’s callin’ you out, don’t you have anything to say?

Sharculese
Sharculese
12 years ago

I admit I did utilize a sockpuppet; nonetheless, your blind acceptance of said fact despite any closure up until now, has been noted.

it is pretty telling that we find david more trustworthy than someone who just admitted he’s a dishonest coward who threw a tantrum when he got caught misbehaving and spent weeks insisting that it was a conspiracy to destroy him

it tells us that youre totally incompetent

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

I’ve copped to my mistake- .

“I tripped and entered in several different names and email addresses! I’m clumsy!”

But from a logical point of view, your gormless acceptance of Futrelle’s assertion is troubling and telling, indicative of low intelligence.

He’s the blog moderator. He has access to IPs. He told us–without violating your privacy, which he easily could have–that Butthorn was you. And it was correct.

Anyway, what would he have to gain by falsely claiming some troll was some other troll? I don’t even get the point of that.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

But from a logical point of view, your gormless acceptance of Futrelle’s assertion is troubling and telling, indicative of low intelligence.

Whereas your paranoid conspiracy theories and overuse of the No True Scotsman fallacy are both signs of a mighty intellect.

Sharculese
Sharculese
12 years ago

Vile strawman. I’ve copped to my mistake- . But from a logical point of view, your gormless acceptance of Futrelle’s assertion is troubling and telling, indicative of low intelligence.

it wasn’t a mistake. you deliberately lied. and when you got caught lying you flipped out and blamed everyone else for your own actions.

stop trying to blame other people for your own pettiness, dude.

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

someone who just admitted he’s a dishonest coward who threw a tantrum when he got caught misbehaving and spent weeks insisting that it was a conspiracy to destroy him

Futrelle did indeed launch a smear campaign against me- it’s the first step in doxxing. It’s not, obviously, but it’s a warning. I stand by everything I’ve said.

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