The other day we took a look at some of the more reprehensible opinions of Tom Martin, one of the UK’s most prominent Men’s Rights Activists and a man who evidently believes that child prostitutes are taking the easy way out to avoid having to get real jobs. He returned with even worse stuff, which I highlighted in my previous post.
Happily for all of us, not all of Martin’s views are this reprehensible. Many are merely ridiculous. So, today, let’s look at the Lighter Side of Tom Martin, as evidenced by some of his recent comments here on Man Boobz.
Martin apparently spent last Sunday working on a video project which involved him buttonholing passers-by on the streets of London and asking them questions in order to “prove” his various crackpot theories about gender. Here’s how he explained one aspect of his video research:
After shooting my video experiment tomorrow to discover who is more sexist on the street, women or women, I will be shooting another short, investigating if there is a correlation between unfunny women and prostitution ethic. I believe women could be as funny as men on average if they tried, but instead, invest in whoring strategies. I have a reliable street experiment to investigate this hypothesis also …
If I can establish that women can be as funny as men (in a zero prostitution environment), then this video experiment will be released in a news piece, and used as a springboard to pre-sell the feature-length documentary it will form a part of, on a related topic.
Good luck with that!
Martin also took on the contentious (to him) subject of male baldness, a topic of intense interest to him, due to certain factors with regard to gender and misandry … er, long story short, he’s bald. Sorry, balding.
After one commenter here suggested that Martin’s ambition was to become a sort of “Ann Coulter … with less hair and more swearing,” he took umbrage – not at the comparison to Coulter but at the bit about hair.
Well Cassandra, there are five new baldness treatments in the pipeline, but no drugs for treating a receding personality, so what are you going to do?
In a followup comment, the man whose favorite word in the English language is “whore,” used as an insult, declared we were being a bunch of evil meanies for even mentioning the whole (lack of) hair thing:
Cassandra, thanks to your receding personality (for which there is already a cure – renunciation therapy), I have decided for my filmed experiment tomorrow to also measure the degree to which each sex is prepared to make physical insults about the other sex.
Even if you specifically were fat for instance, and it was all your own fault because you refuse to get a job, I would never mention it in a debate with you. I debated an obese woman once. She ordered a pizza whilst we were still on stage, but I did not refer to it at the time, because of the most basic standards of decorum.
This I believe was an attempt at a joke.
How many manboobzers are prepared now to concur that Cassandra was being a douche by picking on an involuntary physiological characteristic of a debating opponent? And then encouraging others to do the same?
Of course, in Martin’s mind, mocking women as fat whores is totally cool, because:
Fatness is a choice, ladies, and so is being a whore. Going bald (currently) is not, due to poor efficacy of available treatments, including transplants. That will change, if Aderans, Histogen, Replicel, Allergen and Tsuji-Lab among others have anything to do with it. All you need to do in the meantime is shut the fuck up until they sort it out. The apparent acceptability of attacking the bald though, is a great example of the lack of equality men have. People do not generally attack or humiliate women who are going bald – but when it’s a man…
Uh, yeah, that’s why virtually every bald or balding woman wears a hat or a wig, while bald or balding men just comb it over or shave it all off.
Evidently Martin feels that even a mention of his lack of hair is some kind of hate crime. Here, prominent Bald Rights Activist Larry David tries to convince authorities to investigate a similar hate crime against him.
Note to Martin: Larry David’s show, “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is fictional.
(Note: Tom Martin has confirmed that this is indeed him posting comments here on Man Boobz by sending an email from the account associated with his website Sexismbusters.org. Also, he’s retweeted quotes from his comments here. Contact him via his web site if you are skeptical.)
Tom you are a clown, thx for making me laugh. You also are a terrible terrible person but fortunately your own stupidity should prevent you from doing much harm to the world.
-LOVE JUMBOFISH
Wow. I’m having some difficulties with Mr MH and feeling pretty bummed about it, but compared to Tom Martin Mr MH is a positive saint.
(BTW I miss you guys and I still lurk, it’s just hard to keep up and contribute what with babby et al.)
And who knew but Telly Savalas RAWR.
Baldness oppression? seriously? There are tons of extremely successful people who are bald, including people who are considered conventionally attractive (actors like vin disel and bruce willis come to mind), and also a ton of politicians. Feeling held back by appearance is different than actually being held back by appearance (though of course feeling held back is something that virtually everyone experiences, unless puberty was a time of complete confidence for everyone but me).
Anyway, all this “lets put research towards X because it is more important” is a factory view of science (where science is a factory with a product that can be dictated), but it really doesn’t work that way. X-rays were discovered by trying to figure out why a repeatable experiment resulted in goo being deposited on the inside of a vaccuum tube. Germs were discovered via microscopes, which were made because of optics experiements. A lot of the technology we have resulted from chance or because of the nature of the problem to be solved (maybe it is much simpler to cure baldness than drug resistant bacteria). It is not as though scientists are totally interchangable either, what scientist A can be useful working on may not be true of scientist B, so trying to funnel them all into say, cancer research would not neccesarily work.
There is also the issue of results- the results of the baldness research might be useful for some other problem down the road. It is impossible to know.
Of course none of this makes tom’s argument any more sensible, just a minor gripe on my part about the discussion of science. He is obviously a man who is incredibly narcissistic and his sense of entitlement in the world is absolutely absurd.
No, Tom, please do continue explaining your well-thought out, compassionate, socially aware ideas to us. Nice Gaius™ is very interested in what you have to say:
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3q4ref/
I think by AIDS he must mean my rant about TB? Except one of those is actually (usually) easily killed with antibiotics and big names want better antibiotics to fight it (that is, MSF would like better TB drugs, now please)
Me: “Child prostitution should be illegal, but it is not rape”.
Manboobzers: “He thinks child rape is okay”.
Me: “No, I already said I don’t, at the point when I said child rape is not okay.”
Manboobzers: “He definitely thinks child rape is okay!”
Me: “Well, see you.”
Manboobzers: “Yeah, whatever, rape apologist.”
Me: “Er… See you then.”
Manboobzers: “Rape!”
If you pay a child for sex thats rape
If you sleep with a child thats rape
WHAT IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT TO HAVE SEX WITH ADULTS YOU SICK FUCK.
Cool story, bro.
Oh, whoops. I meant, BALD bro.
Yes, but you don’t seem to be complying with the regimen.
Tom Martin: “Child prostitutes should be put back in school, or if repeat offenders, prosecuted for attempting to profit by preying on the mentally ill pedo population.”
Rest of the World: What the fuck is wrong with you? Child prostitutes preying on adult pedophiles? How far up your ass is your head?
Tom Martin: Have you renounced prostitution yet, 97% of women?
Rest of the World: This is a man who is taking himself seriously? How does he fucking breathe when he simply must say “prostitute” so much?
Tom Martin: Prostitutes.
Rest of the World: Get help, you strange, sad little man.
Yeah, you said it’s not okay because it’s so rough on the poor pedophiles.
Just think of a bald pedophile. (With a skinny bum.) He must be the most oppressed person in the world!
Tom, it’s way past too late to try to spin what you’ve said in any kind of positive light.
Truly no burden is as heavy as that of bonyassism.
The baldness research in question is being carried out privately. Those funding the research would see little benefit from releasing their results and doing so could help others beat them to a baldness cure. I would think it exceptionally unlikely that any results will be released for public consumption.
In addition, I agree that science ought to be pursued for knowledge’s sake, but drug research falls more under the umbrella of applied science and engineering than basic research, where a factory view isn’t necessarily damaging. (One needs, of course, a broader view than just the factory as well.)
Long hath it bent my back, and pained my coccyx. What misandric God would punish us so!!
Jumbofish said,
If you pay a child for sex thats rape
If you sleep with a child thats rape
WHAT IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT TO HAVE SEX WITH ADULTS YOU SICK FUCK.
Yes, Jumbofish, according to the evidence, child prostitutes can and do consent to sex with adults, whether this makes you angry at me or not.
Here’s a bunch of child prostitutes talking you through the process of how they consent:
http://www.readperiodicals.com/201010/2337139671.html#b
I am as disgusted as anyone, that these children are prostitutes, but I am not prepared to lie to myself, about who is ultimately responsible for those children’s actions.
Of course, the hoary old Marxist argument for ADULTS choosing prostitution, is that the women had no other choice, due to economic imperatives. Only trouble with that argument, is that between 1998 and 2008 – a time of unparralled economic growth (and increase in job opportunities for women with positive discrimination implementation across professions) the numbers of female prostitutes still increased. This period was also the period of a renewed crusade to reinvent the “sex slavery” and “sex trafficking” myths though – so blinkered feminist drones will have become increasingly convinced during this period of prostitutions’ seamingly increasingly real claim to victim status, rather than the diminishing claim due to increased opportunities in non-prostitution economies.
Your argument has been raped (so to speak), but that’s about as far as it goes.
And yeah, researching new TB antibiotics might prove hard, or have other benefits, but afaik, it simply isn’t being done (almost certainly because developed nations largely don’t have MDR-TB, XDR-TB, etc). They’re still using the same antibiotics from like the 50s (which, having had the wonder of the first line drugs, require another pill so they don’t trash your liver…that’s the first line drug, they only get nastier from there).
Other, simpler, MSF requests re: TB — child sized doses of the current drugs. Making smaller pills can’t be that damned hard can it?
Lol, speaking of my liver, vodka anyone?
Also, for shits and giggles.
Tom Martin, you are dumb.
Actually Tom calls more for tequila, since I tend to associate it with laughter.
No my argument has not been forced into an unwanted sexual situation or unable to consent to sexual contact. Arguments cant be raped, nor can people rape arguments…..
Kindly fuck off CREEP.
I found the perfect chair for Tom: http://www.regretsy.com/2012/07/16/the-power-of-nut-stool/
Child prostitutes say “yes” to sex with adults. (Sometimes. Other times they don’t.) This does not mean that they made a free choice between “have a happy normal childhood with a stable home and plenty to eat” and “be a child prostitute,” and they thought the latter just sounded fun.
I’m not sure how that’s Marxist.
My personal argument is that if you can pay someone to give you a backrub, you can pay someone to give you a dickrub. (And the fact that you can get a free backrub from a partner doesn’t mean that hiring a massage therapist is somehow immoral.) Just treat your service provider well and respect their limits.
You’re all class.
BUT IT SHOULD TOTALLY BE ILLEGAL YOU GUISE
Tom Martin: class act.
Well, you’re certainly making a valiant attempt to lie to the rest of us about it then.