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The Lighter Side of Tom Martin (the repulsive British MRA)

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The other day we took a look at some of the more reprehensible opinions of Tom Martin, one of the UK’s most prominent Men’s Rights Activists and a man who evidently believes that child prostitutes are taking the easy way out to avoid having to get real jobs. He returned with even worse stuff, which I highlighted in my previous post.

Happily for all of us, not all of Martin’s views are this reprehensible. Many are merely ridiculous. So, today, let’s look at the Lighter Side of Tom Martin, as evidenced by some of his recent comments here on Man Boobz.

Martin apparently spent last Sunday working on a video project which involved him buttonholing passers-by on the streets of London and asking them questions in order to “prove” his various crackpot theories about gender. Here’s how he explained one aspect of his video research:

After shooting my video experiment tomorrow to discover who is more sexist on the street, women or women, I will be shooting another short, investigating if there is a correlation between unfunny women and prostitution ethic. I believe women could be as funny as men on average if they tried, but instead, invest in whoring strategies. I have a reliable street experiment to investigate this hypothesis also  …

If I can establish that women can be as funny as men (in a zero prostitution environment), then this video experiment will be released in a news piece, and used as a springboard to pre-sell the feature-length documentary it will form a part of, on a related topic.

Good luck with that!

Martin also took on the contentious (to him) subject of male baldness, a topic of intense interest to him, due to certain factors with regard to gender and misandry … er, long story short, he’s  bald. Sorry, balding.

After one commenter here suggested that Martin’s ambition was to become a sort of “Ann Coulter … with less hair and more swearing,” he took umbrage – not at the comparison to Coulter but at the bit about hair.

Well Cassandra, there are five new baldness treatments in the pipeline, but no drugs for treating a receding personality, so what are you going to do?

In a followup comment, the man whose favorite word in the English language is “whore,” used as an insult, declared we were being a bunch of evil meanies for even mentioning the whole (lack of) hair thing:

Cassandra, thanks to your receding personality (for which there is already a cure – renunciation therapy), I have decided for my filmed experiment tomorrow to also measure the degree to which each sex is prepared to make physical insults about the other sex.

Even if you specifically were fat for instance, and it was all your own fault because you refuse to get a job, I would never mention it in a debate with you. I debated an obese woman once. She ordered a pizza whilst we were still on stage, but I did not refer to it at the time, because of the most basic standards of decorum.

This I believe was an attempt at a joke.

How many manboobzers are prepared now to concur that Cassandra was being a douche by picking on an involuntary physiological characteristic of a debating opponent? And then encouraging others to do the same?

Of course, in Martin’s mind, mocking women as fat whores  is totally cool, because:

Fatness is a choice, ladies, and so is being a whore. Going bald (currently) is not, due to poor efficacy of available treatments, including transplants. That will change, if Aderans, Histogen, Replicel, Allergen and Tsuji-Lab among others have anything to do with it. All you need to do in the meantime is shut the fuck up until they sort it out. The apparent acceptability of attacking the bald though, is a great example of the lack of equality men have. People do not generally attack or humiliate women who are going bald – but when it’s a man…

Uh, yeah, that’s why virtually every bald or balding woman wears a hat or a wig, while bald or balding men just comb it over or shave it all off.

Evidently Martin feels that even a mention of his lack of hair is some kind of hate crime. Here, prominent Bald Rights Activist Larry David tries to convince authorities to investigate a similar hate crime against him.

Note to Martin: Larry David’s show, “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is fictional.

(Note: Tom Martin has confirmed that this is indeed him posting comments here on Man Boobz by sending an email from the account associated with his website Sexismbusters.org. Also, he’s retweeted quotes from his comments here. Contact him via his web site if you are skeptical.)

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BigMomma
BigMomma
12 years ago

i picked the wrong month to stop drinking

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

Martin- the jig’s up, buddy. I will be emailing Elam, Price, Bogen, and others with my suspicions.

Please stop. Seriously.

You know, you can just denounce him unequivocally. Really, you’re halfway there. Denouncing Martin unequivocally doesn’t have to be this big -and stupid- production of accusing him of some sort of nebulous, double-agent bullshit. Doesn’t it bother you, all the lazy cowardice?

Be courageous.

speedlines
speedlines
12 years ago

I dunno, it’ll be hard to beat the time that Yoga Is A Cult troll became best buddies with Ami’s sockpuppet.

Jessay (@jessay)
12 years ago

Even if you specifically were fat for instance, and it was all your own fault because you refuse to get a job, I would never mention it in a debate with you.

People are fat because they don’t have jobs? What about jobs that are more likely to make you fat like office work? What is happening? Where am I?

And no, MRAs never stoop to calling the opposing feminists fat. They didn’t insert fat into David’s name either. They don’t have posts basically saying that women being fat is a crime against men.

They also have beef with “ugly” women. Being ugly is as much a choice as being bald. Either you shell out ridiculously large amounts of money to get corrective surgery, or you deal with it. But guess whose treatment is harsher, ugly women or bald men? Don’t say bald men. Nobody gives a shit if you’re bald, seriously.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@Cassandra

Just watching Mikey go from mildly positing his ridiculous theory, to working himself up into a frothy rage over said theory, has already made this in the top 3 for me

dirtyhippiefeet
dirtyhippiefeet
12 years ago

Steele, you know what they say… a house divided against itself cannot stand…

in other news… oh dear lord I lurk too much and comment too little on here. the Mister and I can’t stop laughing at this newest development in the Real MRAs Of Man Boobz!
(tune in next time… will Tom succeed at pitching his new documentary? will SteelePole FINALLY be unmasked FOR GOOD?)

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

(Guys, gentle reminder that sex work is not a bad thing, and if we keep using “prostitute” the way we were previously using “w**re, we’re buying into the same attitudes.)

Cliff, duly noted.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

@ Shadow

It happened so quickly, too! The fact that Tom is both an MRA and a disgusting human being is simply too much for Mikey’s simplistic little brain to handle, so Tom must be made to be not-an-MRA before Mikey starts to spin around in circles and beep like a broken robot.

cloudiah
12 years ago

Synonyms for vile: mean. base. villainous. nasty. foul. scurvy. sordid.

And yes, let’s stop hating on sex workers. That’s Tom’s deal. (I apologize if I said anything that sounded like hating on sex workers, which I well might have.)

Tom Martin
12 years ago

Steele,

I spent a long time arguing with anti-feminist men’s rights activists about the benefits of pro-feminism, so I was largely hated by MRAs.

Then, I met lots and lots of feminists, on internet forums, at LSE’s Gender Institute, during media debates coming up to my court case, on manboobz, and so on, and I have looked feminists in the eyes whilst eloquent speakers talk about compelling reasons to include men’s issues in feminism’s considerations, and I have seen it, as the feminists just go dead behind the eyes. There is a complete switch off when talking about male victims. Their consciences appear to leave their bodies. It’s like a vacuum. Nothing. It is totally fascistic. And this is when the cameras are on their faces (so imagine what these fems are like in their sex segregated cabals).

The expressions they pull, are exactly the same as when a guy goes up to an attractive girl and hits on her and she’s not interested. A kind of rolling eyes to the sky non-plussedness.

It looks like feminists cannot distinguish between a man asking for a date, and a man asking for feminism to take men’s issues seriously. It looks like these fems are using the same parts of their brain to dismiss the notion of enfranchising men in whatever political regard, as they would to Darwinianly dismiss the approaches of a man not up to their genetic standard. That is the level of it, and I am not talking about idiot feminists. I’m talking about elite students, in the top universities.

Once you’ve seen it, clumps of feminists all doing the same eye-rolling, despite the most compelling arguments by the MRAs there, then you know that the women attracted to feminism are the enemies of equality. They’re too young to even be able to remember when feminism was even allegedly about equality anyway.

Women’s groups today are doing their best to roadblock equality.

Quite why Douchetrelle plays along, I don’t know.

Perhaps he’s well read (like me), and thinks that he gets that feminism is all a strategically framed piece of reverse psychology towards nevertheless, achieving equality – and if so, I’m thinking he hasn’t got out there and met many feminists, because when that happens, reality hits home, and anyone who has witnessed it will realize that its not that deep for the fem drones – They’re just *****s.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
12 years ago

a burgeoning human rights movement

mangina

a burgeoning human rights movement

mangina

a burgeoning human rights movement

mangina

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

I’ll bet this conspiracy goes to the very top of the feminist politburo. There’s no way Futrelle could have sponsored Martin without help from higher up. But how high up does it go? Amanda Marcotte? Gloria Steinem? The cryogenically preserved brain of Andrea Dworkin? We are through the looking glass, people!

themisanthropicmuse
themisanthropicmuse
12 years ago

@Tom Martin:
versus liberal feminism (“teenage girls like sex just as much as teenage boys”)
Sure they do, I don’t think anyone said teenage girls hate sex. However, 10 year olds, not so much. It’s the fact that you see children that young as predatory creatures out to take advantage of pedophiles rather than the other way around that makes me think you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic. How anyone can think a parent or other figure of authority in a child’s life is incapable of manipulating them into prostitution for their own selfish ends (and why that is considered taking advantage of someone who doesn’t share the same mental capacity of an adult) is utterly mind boggling. I’ve never heard *anyone* say pimps are just brokers before. How does one get this out of touch with reality?

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@Cassandra

As with antimanboobz, his melodramatic take on everything makes his piddling views so much funnier!! The whole “must be a feminist mole” thing has shown up so many times, but I unequivocally declare Mikey’s to be the greatest iteration yet

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Steele hasn’t just jumped the shark, he’s done pirouettes around it.

Bostonian
12 years ago

Tom, the only one dead behind the eyes about men and boys is you. You are the one who argued that the boy who started being exploited by grown men at 7 was choosing that life.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@CB

I’ll bet this conspiracy goes to the very top of the feminist politburo. There’s no way Futrelle could have sponsored Martin without help from higher up. But how high up does it go? Amanda Marcotte? Gloria Steinem? The cryogenically preserved brain of Andrea Dworkin? We are through the looking glass, people!

All tools to the shadow network of lizard people, who put up the 37 large for this elaborate take down of this fledgling human rights movement

cloudiah
12 years ago

I have looked feminists in the eyes

Steele, I am pretty sure he’s calling you a coward. What do you have to say to that?

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

The expressions they pull, are exactly the same as when a guy goes up to an attractive girl and hits on her and she’s not interested. A kind of rolling eyes to the sky non-plussedness.

Does this tend to happen more when you are talking about hard chairs, child prostitution, or bald rights?

Steele
Steele
12 years ago

Martin:

I agree with much of what you say.

It looks like feminists cannot distinguish between a man asking for a date, and a man asking for feminism to take men’s issues seriously. It looks like these fems are using the same parts of their brain to dismiss the notion of enfranchising men in whatever political regard, as they would to Darwinianly dismiss the approaches of a man not up to their genetic standard. That is the level of it, and I am not talking about idiot feminists. I’m talking about elite students, in the top universities.

If you’re sincere- spot on, and a very interesting way to look at it.

But Martin- I don’t think you’re sincere, is the thing. You’ve spent the past week here at Boobzland publicly and loudly condoning child rape, child prostitution and other grossly immoral and criminal behavior. What you’ve said is some of the most vile crap I’ve ever read, and I’ve read Andrea Dworkin. You attempt to placate me now with righteous MRA rhetoric- and it is righteous- but I can’t believe it’s anything but a smokescreen for your sabotage. All all the weasel words in the word can’t distract me now, mangina.

Did feminists email you that response you just putted out? Or have you been trained? Chickenshit feminist.

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

All tools to the shadow network of lizard people, who put up the 37 large for this elaborate take down of this fledgling human rights movement

Of course! It’s the lizard people! Where’s NWOslave when you need him? He’d know about this stuff!

Bostonian
12 years ago

Steele, Tom is a true blue MRA, who took some of the MRA talking points to a extreme conclusion. He is just willing to throw more men and boys under the bus than you are.

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

Who trained you, Tom? Who? We have ways of finding out, you know.

Pam
Pam
12 years ago

(Guys, gentle reminder that sex work is not a bad thing, and if we keep using “prostitute” the way we were previously using “w**re, we’re buying into the same attitudes.)

You’re absolutely right, and I did not think of how it may have come across that way. Thank you for the gentle reminder.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Some call Eurosabra, international man of mystery! He must know some spies.

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