Sorry to return so quickly to the fetid mind of MRA blabologist JohnTheOther, but, well, you’ll see why I have.
Here is Mr. TheOther in AskReddit, responding to the question “Women of Reddit, how do you feel about cumshots?” (No, he is not strictly speaking a “woman of Reddit,” not like that’s going to stop him.) Enjoy the irony of the A Voice for Men second banana rehashing, apparently with utter sincerity, an argument once set forth, rather infamously, by a feminist fellow named Hugo Schwyzer. And enjoy the also-very-special response from fellow MRA SuicideBanana, whom we met earlier in the week.
I know Mr. TheOther is concerned about people “quote mining” comments, and presenting them out of context, but in this case, there is no further context. His comment, which I have presented unedited in screenshot form, isn’t in response to any other comment; it’s simply an answer to the question I alluded to above. Mr. TheOther does respond to SuicideBanana’s remarks about him being an advocate and facilitator of violence, as you can see if you clicky click here, but sheds no more light on the issue of porno cumshots as a “pseudo-mystical representation of the sexuality of the viewer.”
So now women in porn are stealing sperm? This fear is becoming pathological…
LOLLL! NO SPERM IS SAFE!!!
MRAs, taking the “What about the men?” to new ridiculous levels, one subject at a time.
There’s just so much fail in those two posts that I really don’t know where to start.
This made me laugh out loud:
Sometimes “cum” is just cum, ya know?
TMI TMI TMI AND ALSO MAYBE TRIGGER WARNING:
I once had a guy talk me into letting him come on my face. (I’ve had other guys “talk me into it” just by asking, and honestly, that’s always gone much better.) He gave me this whole spiel about how he’d totally respect me, and it was something very important to him and would be very hot for both of us, because it meant I really accepted him and his pleasure and BLAH BLAH.
So I said yes.
He came on my face and then immediately started laughing at what a stupid slut I was and how dumb I looked with come all over my face, ha ha ha I had totally fallen for it, I looked just like those dumb whores in porn.
This is how grouchy, cynical feminists are made.
(This is also something you can only do once. Most sex is repeat business, dudes. Make your partners feel like suckers for fucking you, and you’re going to get awfully tired out having to find a new bridge to burn every time you want to get laid.)
That’s such a non sequitur: his proof of women’s liberty is their salary?
Were a normal person would think “people in porn who are penetrated are paid more than people who penetrate” (Maybe because less people want this job? Maybe because because it’s physically more demanding and dangerous?), MRAs jump to “cis men should get paid more without having to do womanly shit like being penetrated!”. Just because. No justification. The worth of their mighty penis needs to be recognized.
Why am I not surprised that male MRAs burst onto the scene to argue with each other on threads asking for opinions from women on reddit?
so is JtO saying that a stock hand animation from a ten year old video game is a ‘pseudo-mystical representation of sexuality’ or did he just forget how metaphors work?
They also flood all the women-centric and feminist subreddits and have basically ruined most of them.
he wants so badly to be an intellectual but he sucks so fucking much at it
That was my favorite bit, too, although it’s going to kind of ruin Half-Life for me now.
He does know there are people who like doing that, right? For free and everything. It’s not The Ultimate Humiliation for everyone.
Because porn is pretty much the one industry anywhere where women are customarily paid more than men, and that can’t stand.
(Actually, only “porn acting” is. Porn producers are heavily male and make way more than any of the actors.)
…I got stuck on the concept of someone “philosophising” about porn.
(Also, that penis picture looks somewhat like an elephant wearing a beret, just putting that out there).
there’s nothing wrong with thinking about porn, and especially about what the type of porn people consume says about how our society looks at sex, it’s just that jto is a ginormous hack
So true, so true.
SuicideBanana also calls JtO out for advocating violence on the r/mr thread about the quote mining article: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/vzozu/and_nobody_likes_nazis_anymore_either/c592rsi
If you scroll up on that thread, it appears Grapeban thinks HE prompted that quote mining article from JtO. But if that were true, wouldn’t JtO have derided “snarky feats of grapebanian deceit?”
That is true, it was just the idea that someone would take the time to look for hidden meanings in it.
Characterizing semen as a “mythical representation of sexuality” is possibly one of the most narcissistic things I’ve ever heard. Also suggests JtO has a fetish that may not be easy to accommodate.
Could someone more fluent in MRA bs explain what JtO’s point is? Is he whining that cum shots are misandry for having actresses “steal” the actors’ cum, or is he saying that the only way to accept cis men’s sexuality is to agree to do facials? Either way, though, he’s full of crap.
As bad as Schwyzer’s argument was, at least I could understand it. I can’t make heads or tails of what JtO says.
I believe it’s the latter, but with bonus “also, porn actresses might spermjack you.”
So I guess what women are supposed to do is let guys come on their faces, but then immediately wash their face in front of the guy to prove they’re not stealing any sperm.
Cloudiah, JtO’s article seems to have been inspired by a recent run-in with Grapeban, as well as by his fond if mostly false memories of my piece from last year.
Sing it with me folks!
Every sperm is sacred! Every sperm is good!
And, gay sex does not equal violence. And women get paid more in het male geared porn because they are the stars. Het men are never going to admit to wanting to watch other men getting off, ergo male actors are secondary.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised is various forms of cum shots in porn had an interesting/visual storytelling/deconstructive background to them. Sure today it is almost an obligatory trope, but it had to start somewhere. It could just be a sort of male-centric natural “endpoint” to porn, as in “Well, the male shot his load, we’ll get the woman to coo and sound like she did too, let’s go get some lunch and finish editing this evening.”
Does johntheother do a good job teasing it out or contemplating the ramifications of such a notion? No he doesn’t, and given the rest of his thought process I feel like I need a long, cleansing shower even admitting that his starting notion/thought might have some merit.
I can’t read anything by JtO without getting a headache. There’s unclear writing, there’s deliberate obfuscation, there’s just plain bad, and then there’s JtO’s wannabe pomposity. “…symbolic acceptance of the viewer’s sexuality”? It isn’t jizz, even if it is? I need an aspirin.
OT, Anti-Man Boobz appears to have thrown in the towel with a delightfully self-aggrandizing flounce out the door.
Oh, Varpole is HI-larious. That was a wonderful flounce.