Here in a nutshell is my biggest problem with the MRM and everyone associated with it: They bring up legitimate issues (toxic portrayals of masculinity, lack of awareness of prostate cancer etc) and then cloud them with their claims of misandry. This then messes up the entire debate, and turns people who want to help away.
Also, DOOD PROBLEMS MYSANDRY RARARARAR
Amnesia
12 years ago
I like how both girls just happen to be wearing green, as green is my OTC (One True Color). Also, great comic.
Amnesia – both girls are employees at “Shortpacked”, the titular toystore. The green is their work uniform.
ostara321
12 years ago
LOL, Ithilianna. TRUFAX! But you know, it’s not even MRAs who engage in that kind of thing. Pretty much everywhere on the internet where there is a conversation about issues that are generally more lady-specific and it isn’t a place that has no qualms about banning them (places like Shakesville come to mind) there will be an army of dudes wailing about how much more horrible shit is for dudes. Or at the very least, there’s shit dudes have to put up with too and SEEE that means your shit doesn’t matter.
I mean, heck, that’s Elevatorgate in a nutshell right there.
The third panel is what happens in the comment section literally every time the creator talks about misogyny/gender in the comic.
Besides being a little silly at parts, it’s a pretty good comic.
Shadow
12 years ago
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Oh damn… I done died
Amnesia
12 years ago
@Seraph
Oh. I knew that. (Obviously not)
Myoo
12 years ago
So, I was reading the comments on this comic and someone linked to a discussion on the Penny Arcade forums where a user called LadyM posted a great analogy for how society and issues of sexism, racism, etc. are related. Here’s the link to the comment if you want to check it out: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/23297174#Comment_23297174
So, this week the DOJ published a new set of standards set to reduce the incidence of prison rape. Guess who’s firmly against the new regulations, claiming they will “cost too much?” Here’s a hint: it’s not liberals and feminists.
MRAs don’t want special protections for men, that costs way too much money. They just want all protections or even acknowledgement of women’s issues abolished because, you know, that’s only fair. The shittiest possible protection for all!
I read some internet discussion on female genital mutilation and some guy jumps in and goes “MALES GET CIRCUMCISED!”. Er, yes, and it’s a problem that this is done to babies without their consent. But seriously… Female genital mutilation is rather comparable to cutting off the head of the dick, or the entire dick, depending on which kind we’re discussing. It’s NOT comparable to male circumcision. If somebody had her outer genitals CUT OFF it’s bloody insensitive to cry out “but look at me, I was circumcised!”.
EVERY internet discussion of FGM turns into a discussion of male circumcision. It’s the perfect example of what this comic is talking about.
ShadetheDruid
12 years ago
It’s even worse than that, in that when feminists get annoyed at manjackings (man hijackings) of non-man-related topics, they then run back to whatever hole they came from and everyone else ends up with this impression that feminists don’t care about men’s issues.
ShadetheDruid
12 years ago
Gah, the “they” after the comma referring to the mans. Clarity fail.
EVERY internet discussion of FGM turns into a discussion of male circumcision. It’s the perfect example of what this comic is talking about.
THIS.
Isn’t this one of the reasons they started No, Seriously, What About the Men? So men could have some place to go and talk about men’s issues and leave Pandagon, Shakesville and everyone else alone?
Yeah, even having to explain why FGM and circumcision are different is already adding to the problem, because you’ve already let them change the conversation so it’s about men and how they have problems too.
So I guess the only “correct” reply to “what about circumcision?” is “We’ll talk about that another time. Right now we’re talking about FGM.”
We Hunted The Mammoth
LOL 🙂
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!
Dood problems!
Here in a nutshell is my biggest problem with the MRM and everyone associated with it: They bring up legitimate issues (toxic portrayals of masculinity, lack of awareness of prostate cancer etc) and then cloud them with their claims of misandry. This then messes up the entire debate, and turns people who want to help away.
Also, DOOD PROBLEMS MYSANDRY RARARARAR
I like how both girls just happen to be wearing green, as green is my OTC (One True Color). Also, great comic.
Now where are they that there are so many MRA’s?
@Ruby: ON THE INTERNET!
Amnesia – both girls are employees at “Shortpacked”, the titular toystore. The green is their work uniform.
LOL, Ithilianna. TRUFAX! But you know, it’s not even MRAs who engage in that kind of thing. Pretty much everywhere on the internet where there is a conversation about issues that are generally more lady-specific and it isn’t a place that has no qualms about banning them (places like Shakesville come to mind) there will be an army of dudes wailing about how much more horrible shit is for dudes. Or at the very least, there’s shit dudes have to put up with too and SEEE that means your shit doesn’t matter.
I mean, heck, that’s Elevatorgate in a nutshell right there.
It’s
funnydisheartening because it’s true.The third panel is what happens in the comment section literally every time the creator talks about misogyny/gender in the comic.
Besides being a little silly at parts, it’s a pretty good comic.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Oh damn… I done died
@Seraph
Oh. I knew that. (Obviously not)
So, I was reading the comments on this comic and someone linked to a discussion on the Penny Arcade forums where a user called LadyM posted a great analogy for how society and issues of sexism, racism, etc. are related. Here’s the link to the comment if you want to check it out:
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/23297174#Comment_23297174
Haha, so true!
So, this week the DOJ published a new set of standards set to reduce the incidence of prison rape. Guess who’s firmly against the new regulations, claiming they will “cost too much?” Here’s a hint: it’s not liberals and feminists.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/20/503226/american-action-forum-prison-rape/
@Blitzgal
MRAs don’t want special protections for men, that costs way too much money. They just want all protections or even acknowledgement of women’s issues abolished because, you know, that’s only fair. The shittiest possible protection for all!
I read some internet discussion on female genital mutilation and some guy jumps in and goes “MALES GET CIRCUMCISED!”. Er, yes, and it’s a problem that this is done to babies without their consent. But seriously… Female genital mutilation is rather comparable to cutting off the head of the dick, or the entire dick, depending on which kind we’re discussing. It’s NOT comparable to male circumcision. If somebody had her outer genitals CUT OFF it’s bloody insensitive to cry out “but look at me, I was circumcised!”.
EVERY internet discussion of FGM turns into a discussion of male circumcision. It’s the perfect example of what this comic is talking about.
It’s even worse than that, in that when feminists get annoyed at manjackings (man hijackings) of non-man-related topics, they then run back to whatever hole they came from and everyone else ends up with this impression that feminists don’t care about men’s issues.
Gah, the “they” after the comma referring to the mans. Clarity fail.
THIS.
Isn’t this one of the reasons they started No, Seriously, What About the Men? So men could have some place to go and talk about men’s issues and leave Pandagon, Shakesville and everyone else alone?
Is circumcision still routinely done on the majority of babies with penises in the US?
Misandry!
Yeah, even having to explain why FGM and circumcision are different is already adding to the problem, because you’ve already let them change the conversation so it’s about men and how they have problems too.
So I guess the only “correct” reply to “what about circumcision?” is “We’ll talk about that another time. Right now we’re talking about FGM.”