There is good news, and bad news, and completely predictable news in the fight against prison rape. The good news: the Justice Department last week announced a major new initiative designed to fight against prison rape. The bad news: it’s being opposed by right-wing ideologues. As Think Progress explains:
This week, the Department of Justice published new standards addressing the epidemic of rape and sexual abuse in our nation’s prisons. The guidelines, which apply immediately to federal prisons and give financial incentives for states to comply, are a laudable, widely praised, and long overdue step in combating rape in the United States.
The American Action Forum, a Wall Street-funded group whose C(4) runs millions of dollars in attack ads against Democrats, responded by lambasting the move as too “costly” and “complicated.” …
The Weekly Standard echoed AAF’s response, bemoaning the cost of preventing people from being raped in prison. The total expected cost is less than 1 percent of the overall cost of our prison system and ultimately “end up saving money — for example, by avoiding the medical costs of injuries suffered by rape victims,” according to the New York Times.
The completely predictable news? Men’s Rights Activists are completely oblivious to all this.
If the Men’s Rights movement were truly concerned with helping men, rather than playing “oppression Olympics” and complaining about feminists and women in general, they would be all over this issue. But I have seen nothing about this on any site in the manosphere, aside from one post on the Men’s Rights subreddit that drew all of six (mostly ignorant) comments. (Looking through one large thread on the subject of prison rape that was recently on r/mensrights’ front page, I found zero references to the Justice Department’s new initiative.)
What accounts for this obliviousness? It could be because MRAs tend to regard the Obama administration as a tool of our (imaginary) feminazi overlordsladies. Or because they would have to acknowledge that women are also raped in prison. But I think the real reason is that MRAs are so disconnected from real activists working in the real world to combat prison rape that they are completely unaware of any of this.
If you are interested in getting involved, or just learning more about the issue, I’d suggest checking out the website of the group Just Detention International, which campaigns against prison rape.
For more links, see this post of mine.
Consensual sex is when a woman wears clothing in public, thus showing her consent to literally everything.
Therefore, for gay men, consensual sex is when a man wears clothing in public! No wonder NWO’s terrified of them.
Ruby: I have to laugh at you, Kyrie. I’m a law abiding citizen who loves her family, gives to charity, and rescues homeless pets. But, because I don’t think just like Kyrie, I must be a terrible person. Unbelievable.
Nope. What makes you a terrible person is that you laugh at rape. That you think some people deserve to be raped.
That you claim to be a law abiding citizen, has nothing to do with it. That you love your family has nothing to do with it (I’m sure that lots of rapists love their families too, and car thieves, and ponzi-scheme operators, and torturers. Guess what, loving their families doesn’t stop them being shitty, even evil).
I don’t give a damn if you give all your money to charity, feed the homeless with bread you baked by grinding the wild wheat that grows in Salt Lake City between two pieces of concrete you salvaged from a demolished church, because you fucking defend the idea that some people deserve to be raped
Fuck You even think you can convince other people that the RUBY HYPATIA SENTENCE OF RAPE is Okey-Dokey, just so long as the crime they were convicted of was, “bad enough”.
It’s not. Supporting rape is Evil, with a Capital E, and that rhymes with Ruby.
The reason I’m calling you a bad person, isn’t because you disagree with me, it’s because you’re a bad person.
What… Andy Dufresne isn’t raped. He threatens to bite the rapist’s dick off, and gets away with it.
So what was it that gave you the sad?
He gets away that time (well, only gets beaten within an inch of his life, but he implicitly gets raped other times.
…Stupid close parenthesis.
So now I’m encouraging rape? No, I just think it’s funny when predators become prey.
katz: Yeah, I guess I forget that aspect of it. I’m not sure that it’s not a case of the book trumping the film, because I read it a long time before it got made into a film.
But why? What is funny about people being raped?
oh so you’re saying that sometimes rape is a positive thing that should happen?
that is the definition of encouraging, dummy.
ruby, y’know what’s a totally awesome website where people say shit like that all the time and you would definitely fit in.
the fucking spearhead. go there. stop bothering us.
Right.
Laughter is the best medicine, right?
It’s a good thing to laugh, right?
You think jokes about how stupid women are are bad, right?
But rape jokes, rape jokes are fine.
But you went futher than that. You said you find it amusing when someone becomes someone elses, “bitch”. That it pleases you.
Ergo, you think it good (like a steak, or a swell night on the town, or a smashingly good orgasm).
And we know that you think good things are praiseworthy (see above, about how you love your kids, give to charity, help animals; and laugh at rape victims). So you think it’s praiseworthy to laugh at rape victims. They, “deserve it”.
Well, if someone deserves something, they ought to get it, right? Someone who commits a crime ought to be punished. And it pleases you when that punishment gets rape added to the top (like the cherry on a sundae).
That means you like rape.
You are, by making it a joke, not a crime; but something to snicker at, something which is more acceptable. You are encouraging it. The same way Rush Limbaugh’s “jokes” encourage misogyny.
If you think it’s fitting that someone be raped, you are an evil person.
Live with it.
Ruby, the problem with rape is not that the wrong people are getting raped. No one should be raped. Think of the worst person you have ever heard of. The person that you are thinking of does not deserve to be raped. Rape is torturous, to allow rape in our prisons, to use the threat of rape in “Scared Straight’ programs, to make rape a de facto part of incarceration is a direct violation of the 6th amendment, and it needs to stop.
Making jokes about victims that we personally find distasteful and excusing the rapists if the victim fails to live up to our standards are what slut walks were fighting against, it is what feminists have been fighting against. Just because the victims of prison rape are people that you do not personally care about does not mean that they deserve to be raped.
They’re not getting raped by Karma Itself. They’re getting raped by a predator who isn’t likely to see any consequences at all. How is that funny?
And you do realize that prison rape is more likely to happen to people who appear physically vulnerable, unmasculine, and/or socially isolated, not to people who do the worst crimes?
And you do realize you’re a horrible piece of shit who thinks she’s a goddamn saint because she said “rape is funny sometimes” instead of “rape is funny always”?
OK, Ruby, so if one of your kids tried weed and got sent to jail, would it be funny then?
Rape is not part of the sentence, Ruby. Only evil, stupid people think that it is. Also, what happens to the prison rapists? Are they kept forever in prison? Punished by being raped? Chained in the basement?
Ooh, hey, I bet Ruby won’t answer this one:
HEY RUBY, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS AN APPROPRIATE/”FUNNY” PUNISHMENT FOR RAPISTS… WHO RAPE PRISONERS?
seriously I think that’d break her little brain
i know i said the other day that i was sick of the whole ‘get back to the spearhead’ thing, but i’m making an exception for ruby because she really does appear to have more in common with the spearheaders than with us
maybe she can break ground as the first pretend-feminist shieldmaiden
Seriously Ruby, just fuck off. You’ve flushed what remaining credibility you might have had down the fucking toilet. You’re a fucking troll.
didn’t she surrender her credibility with ‘we’ve eliminated patriarchy, therefore anything that’s left that looks like patriarchy must be Science’
Well, I did use the qualifier “might”. Besides, before today it could be said that that didn’t yet know if she’d laugh at rape.
*that we
I wrote a post here for GMP. I’m disheartened by the pushback. http://goodmenproject.com/good-feed-blog/american-action-forum-thinks-crackdown-on-prison-rape-is-too-costly/comment-page-1/#comment-222174
GTFO of my political movement, Ruby. There is something very wrong with you, and your lack of basic human compassion is giving me the creeps.
Ruby never had credibility. Now she’s just flaunting her evil stupidity.
HEY RUBY, WHAT IF YOUR KID WENT JAIL?
I know we’ve already asked, and she won’t answer because it could never happen to SUCH A GOOD PERSON, but it bears repeating.