The sexy robot ladies are back! Not so much in real life, where they are still more scary than sexy, but in the fervid imagination of dudes who hate real ladies. Like Eric here, on The Spearhead:
When I first came to the MRM, there was a story in the news about a Japanese robotics engineer who had made a female android. It really wasn’t much more than a fairly realistic-looking doll; although there was quite a bit of discussion at the time for the potential to improve on the design. The main thing was that it’s invention caused a fury from the feminists. Even at that early stage in my MRA days, I could see the reason: for the first time women were looking the very real possibility that they could become expendable.
Well, “expendable” only if you view women as little more than support systems for their vaginas.
Personally, I’m more into foreign girls than virtual sex. But the same principle applies: as long as there are alternatives to feminists, the feminists are expendable. They don’t have the power to convert every woman on the planet; and even if they could they can’t stop men from building robots.
Please, build those robots, and lock yourselves away with them forever, and leave the rest of us alone.
Elsewhere in the same thread on The Spearhead we get some examples of why it’s a problem when Men Who Really Should Be Going Their Own way … don’t. A fellow calling himself Rmaxd apparently suggested that men who feel themselves to have been mistreated by the courts should: “Lynch a judge as you would any traitor or dictator.”
His comment was deleted, and heavily criticized — apparently for not being circumspect enough in his threatening language. After all, our dear friend JeremiahMRA got mostly upvotes on The Spearhead for a similarly threatening remark just the other day. And elsewhere in the very same thread as Rmaxd’s now-deleted comment we find a fellow called freebird suggesting that men who have allegedly suffered because of women should
share this pain with those inflicting it.
cue up “blood on the plow”
Meanwhile, again in the same thread, a commenter called walking in hell brings up the example of Thomas Ball, the MRA who self-immolated on the steps of a Keene, New Hampshire courthouse a year ago in hopes that his dramatic death would inspire other men to (quite literally) burn down police stations and courthouses using Molotov cocktails. (You can read Ball’s manifesto, complete with its call for MRA terrorism though without the specific instructions on how to make effective Molotov cocktails, on A Voice for Men, in its “activism” section; search the page for “burn” to go directly to his advocacy of terrorism.) Walking in hell also thinks family court judges should be “punished” for their alleged “crimes,” by which he means denying some fathers visitation.
[R]esponsibility for such heinous crimes against children can behold an individual to a special kind of punishment.
We see the nervous squirming by judges in the Australia case marked by the judge issuing an apology. We also see nervous squirming in the UK with the evildoers trying to issue fake political gestures to angry people.
The evildoers must smell something besides fire and brimstone. The sooner they get to the fire and brimstone, the better off children and fathers will be.
Apparently this vaguely threatening language was vague enough to pass muster on The Spearhead; this comment got more than a dozen upvotes.
The sooner you fuckers build those sexbots you like to talk about so much, the better for all of us.
WTF? Who cares? I’ve seen worse things in public than someone kissing a sex doll.
I totally judge people. For instance, I’m judging you HARD right now.
I’m a little too tired to play “follow the dancing goalposts” today, Fallacy. How’s about you help us out. What are you against?
1. “Perverts” (aka people having not your favourite kind of sex)?
2. People who aren’t perverted enough, and should therefore get over themselves?
3. People who have sex with dolls, because they’re going to fuck corpses later?
4. Naw, actually people who fuck dolls are actually cool, but not if they’re emotionally attached to them, because eww weird gross?
5. Actually being emotionally attached to dolls is okay, but it’s not okay if teh childrennz see?
I’m totally down with judgement. It’s a hobby.
But no, I don’t judge people for having a sex life that makes everyone involved happy, even if that involves kissing sex dolls or roleplaying that the doll is alive.
You shouldn’t take the doll outside because that’s nonconsensually involving *other people* in your sex life, people who might prefer not to be involved. I mean, it shouldn’t be illegal or anything, but it is certainly impolite.
Here’s a really shocking idea (feel free to sit down, wouldn’t want you to fall and hurt yourself). It’s quite possible to judge someone for doing something in the sense that you look at them and think “wow, you look kind of ridiculous doing that” and at the same time be entirely in favor of said person being allowed to do whatever ridiculous thing it is that they wish to do, as long as it’s not illegal or unethical. Do I think people look kind of idiotic making out with sex dolls? Yep. Does that mean that we should ban sex dolls, or arrest people who take them out in public? Nope. People are free to take their Real Doll to the movies with them if they wish (as long as they buy it a ticket, so the theater doesn’t lose money on the seat), and everyone else is free to think that they look like fools when doing so.
“You shouldn’t take the doll outside because that’s nonconsensually involving *other people* in your sex life, people who might prefer not to be involved. I mean, it shouldn’t be illegal or anything, but it is certainly impolite.”
well then I guess it’s impolite for you to be getting your straight vanilla kissing on in public then too. Why are so insensitive to the sex doll fuckers preferences? That’s not normal for him and he thinks you are perverted. Can’t you get that normal but abnormal to him shit in your own house?
People who defend abnormal behaviour have no recourse to complain when the people who engage in that abnormal behaviour want to bring it out of the house and onto the streets. Hey, why shouldn’t they when after all youv’e all just told them they aren’t perverts and you’re cool with what they do.
However as soon as the fuck doll is on a “date” out of the house, I’m sure you’ll have a problem with it. Just like I’m sure most people with having a problem with women walking the streets with their dildoes in their hands. And considering the pervert is going to want to kiss his fuck doll at some point while out in public, because that’s like totally normal after all, because you told him so, women are also going to want to start masturbating themselves with their dildoes, also on the bus or at the library, supermarket queue, wherever children are. And you’d better be OK with that too otherwise you’re are of course, a misoygnist.
@fah lo suee
Them gays might want to kiss and fuck outside if we allow them to have relationships!!
Think of the children!
Ohhh, I know why Fallacy thinks my sex is tame. It’s because they though the examples in my question were meant as actual examples of my sex, rather than amusingly un-kinky practices meant to establish just how vanilla they might want me to be.
Hint: That was sarcasm. The actual kinky sex is documented at my own blog, not in the comments of manboobz, because that would be rude.
Fallacy says he isn’t religous buts wants to admonish us us for moral relativism?
Oh wait, he just wants to argue…
Since Ozy is neither straight, nor vanilla, I’ll field this by saying yes, I think kissing your doll in public is just as impolite as kissing a human in public. So if you want to give your doll a peck in public, go on with your bad self. If you wanna make out with your doll in public, I may or may not be squicked out by it, or feel awkward, just like with human couples.
Absolutely. The way to deal with that is to keep your opinion to yourself if that behaviour bugs you. Of course an alternate route is to ride in on your high horse and decide that the streets need to be squick-free for you, but you know, your gonna need another avenue to express that.
Either kissing must be forbidden, or random masturbation must be fine. Because people can’t handle complex rules like “A is okay and B is not”.
So in other words you’d personally love to see the perverts out in public on dates with their fuck dolls. I’m gonna have to ascribe a completely selfish motivation to your support for this kind of behaviour. It would make people watching oh so much entertaining, wouldn’t it?
Of course in reality you would have a massive problem with it as soon as the doll takes up the last seat at the theatre or on public transport (and he did have to buy her a ticket!!). You’d be having an argument, telling him to put it on the floor or the aisle. When he explains to you that it’s his wife and what you are suggesting is highly offensive and “inhumane” I would love to be seating nearby watchng this play out. There is a reason children prefer to play with dolls more than adults. Because adults are supposed to grow the fuck up.
I don’t care about his sexual kinks, or yours for the matter. I do care about idiots who are constantly trying to redefine what normality and abnormality really is. 1 +1 = 2 not fucking 5.
A man fucking a doll and thinking it’s real is not normal and anyone who encourages someone to continue in this kind of thinking or behaviour isn’t doing them any favours, even if you think you are, because you are being policitically correct and indiscriminatory.
This is why you see cis hetero people just out there having sex on the pavement all the time. Because they’re not perverts, so it’s okay.
seriously, why are we letting brandon rant and rave about how much he hates sex robots
I really don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone get so wound up about a DOLL.
And of course the world must be only black and white eh Fallacy. Otherwise, how would you feel so superior to the rest of us perverts?
@fah lo suee/brandon
you really need to calm the fuck down. you realize sex robots aren’t even real, right?
Far too many people think they can solve mental illness by simplying saying it doesn’t exist, which just adds unnecessary confusion to issues.
Oh Christ! Is it Brandon?
Seriously, this guy needs to get a new hobby.
(looks in DSM)
Man, I don’t see ANYTHING about doll-fucking in here at all.
@drst
i’m confused then, why were you bringing up pornography cases?
personally, i can’t see any reason why congress couldn’t ban sex robots, but i could be wrong, so im just trying to figure out where youre making the connection
In case my position isn’t clear enough yet for you seriously dumb asshats, I have an issue with people who redefine reality, saying what is not real, is. Which they do because they either (a) can’t accept reality or (b) can’t cope with it. You lost all have problem (a); sex doll fuckers have problem (b).
You do them no favours to be supporting their maladaptive strategy for connection and intimacy with others. You may think it’s OK for him to just hide himself away with his doll in the house, where it doesn’t bother others, I don’t. I think he has a real problem that actually needs to be acknowledged as such.
People with mental illness being allowed out in publc leads to masturbation in supermarkets.
How’s that slope doing, Fallacy?
Um dude…no one here has ever said that mental illnesses don’t exist.
People might want sex dolls or robots for a variety of reasons, many of them quite normal and healthy. Some people might want sex dolls because maybe they have difficulty dating, are shy, or want a very rare type of personality that’s hard to find (I’m thinking Meller here). And you know what? If they are happier and their needs as human beings are at least being marginally met then so be it. Its not harming anyone, not even children, who likely see and here a good deal more than the most cautious and conservative parents would wish