The sexy robot ladies are back! Not so much in real life, where they are still more scary than sexy, but in the fervid imagination of dudes who hate real ladies. Like Eric here, on The Spearhead:
When I first came to the MRM, there was a story in the news about a Japanese robotics engineer who had made a female android. It really wasn’t much more than a fairly realistic-looking doll; although there was quite a bit of discussion at the time for the potential to improve on the design. The main thing was that it’s invention caused a fury from the feminists. Even at that early stage in my MRA days, I could see the reason: for the first time women were looking the very real possibility that they could become expendable.
Well, “expendable” only if you view women as little more than support systems for their vaginas.
Personally, I’m more into foreign girls than virtual sex. But the same principle applies: as long as there are alternatives to feminists, the feminists are expendable. They don’t have the power to convert every woman on the planet; and even if they could they can’t stop men from building robots.
Please, build those robots, and lock yourselves away with them forever, and leave the rest of us alone.
Elsewhere in the same thread on The Spearhead we get some examples of why it’s a problem when Men Who Really Should Be Going Their Own way … don’t. A fellow calling himself Rmaxd apparently suggested that men who feel themselves to have been mistreated by the courts should: “Lynch a judge as you would any traitor or dictator.”
His comment was deleted, and heavily criticized — apparently for not being circumspect enough in his threatening language. After all, our dear friend JeremiahMRA got mostly upvotes on The Spearhead for a similarly threatening remark just the other day. And elsewhere in the very same thread as Rmaxd’s now-deleted comment we find a fellow called freebird suggesting that men who have allegedly suffered because of women should
share this pain with those inflicting it.
cue up “blood on the plow”
Meanwhile, again in the same thread, a commenter called walking in hell brings up the example of Thomas Ball, the MRA who self-immolated on the steps of a Keene, New Hampshire courthouse a year ago in hopes that his dramatic death would inspire other men to (quite literally) burn down police stations and courthouses using Molotov cocktails. (You can read Ball’s manifesto, complete with its call for MRA terrorism though without the specific instructions on how to make effective Molotov cocktails, on A Voice for Men, in its “activism” section; search the page for “burn” to go directly to his advocacy of terrorism.) Walking in hell also thinks family court judges should be “punished” for their alleged “crimes,” by which he means denying some fathers visitation.
[R]esponsibility for such heinous crimes against children can behold an individual to a special kind of punishment.
We see the nervous squirming by judges in the Australia case marked by the judge issuing an apology. We also see nervous squirming in the UK with the evildoers trying to issue fake political gestures to angry people.
The evildoers must smell something besides fire and brimstone. The sooner they get to the fire and brimstone, the better off children and fathers will be.
Apparently this vaguely threatening language was vague enough to pass muster on The Spearhead; this comment got more than a dozen upvotes.
The sooner you fuckers build those sexbots you like to talk about so much, the better for all of us.
I’m about halfway through Season 4 and the show is shedding regulars left and right, yet somehow I keep hoping that Baltar will survive long enough to do something selfless for once and/or not go along with “God’s plan” and do whatever the Six in his head prompts him to do because so far it’s kept a bullet out of his brainpan.
By the way, what’s involved in having a PayPal donate button on your website?
I am Hatching A Scheme.
No spoilers, Falconer!
For the newbies: Gaius was a ghost the whole time, and the village was actually just an isolated town in modern America.
Returning to the topic, I think maybe I just figured out that Ruby is the feminist all those MRAs are complaining about. Garvan, on the other hand, confirms what we already knew: fools can’t distinguish between a few Dworkinites and the totality of feminism because it confirms their victim identity to fail at doing so.
@pillowinhell Is this the book?
http://www.amazon.com/The-Companions-Sheri-S-Tepper/dp/006053821X
Ack, I did not know an Amazon link would take up so much real estate… That is kind of bizarre. The companions, by Sheri S. Tepper.
Cloudiah, that sounds about right! Especially if it contains genetically engineer hyper intelligent dogs.
Thank you!
I’d have a robo or VR boyfriend if the technology was perfected, I’m already kind of a robosexual XD (not really, but I do love to collect robot figures, watch movies with robots etc..)
I dunno, dating and finding compatible non-douchey people is really hard and takes lots of effort and a positive attitude which is the opposite of who I am right now. I really don’t think we’re going to see that technology in our lifetime though. My brother is into all this techy engineering stuff and I actually asked him lol, its gonna take awhile but I dont even think MGTOWs care about realism, they just want a hole to use.
Little, as usual. Frankly, if it has an AI, it is indeed slavery to create an AI that explicitly exists only to serve you, and rape to have sex with that slave.
@Ozymandias42
I think that if VR sex became a thing, women* (in particular) would be all over it as an alternative to casual sex with real people, since you don’t have to worry about your virtual partner getting you pregnant, giving you stds, raping you, or being bad in bed. I think a lot of women don’t do casual sex not because they don’t want sex but because the dangers outweigh the benefit. VR eliminates the dangers of sex (which fall primarily on women–while cis men can and do get STDs, they aren’t likely to be raped during a casual encounter and can’t get pregnant, and are much more likely to have an orgasm during sex**) and increases the benefit.
Of course, there are people who aren’t into casual sex period, and I don’t think VR would ever replace real people for relationships, but just sex? I think they’d be so popular.
*Frankly, men and non-binary people are also likely to be all over it too, but nobody is surprised about that with men. Also, trans and non-binary people also might take to VR sex for similar reasons to women–i.e., a lack of physical danger.
**And I have academic literature to back that up! Granted, its about undergrads… also, orgasms are not the end all and be all of sex, but it does indicate that casual sex is likely to be less fun for women. Of course, in the paper I read, the men didn’t orgasm all the time either–about 30% of the time men didn’t have an organism if there was just PIV intercourse. It is still much higher than the women’s number, but still.
(For those who want to know, it was “Hooking Up and Forming Romantic Relationships on Today’s College Campuses” by England and Fogarty.)
Well I don’t know but I’m sure there’s a youtube clip from a discovery science show that will tell us. Either that or a scholarly article from the daily mail. If only Ruby was here to explain her obviously very well thought out and based in fact comment!
which problems are these, exactly, champ?
y’know, it’s not just that a lot of the things you say reveal you to be a shallow, selfish, and generally not very good person, it’s that every day you stumble in here with your latest, consistently boring iteration on “BOY, MRAS SURE DO SUCK AMIRITE’ and then stumble away again without the slightest bit of insight into the topic and not contributing anything unless you manage to derail the thread while everyone points out how awful what you said was and your replies get increasingly self-righteous, inane, and non responsive, all while manifesting the above qualities of being an exceptionally shitty person
seriously ruby, just fuck off already. what is it youre even still doing here.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I seem to recall a number of our MGTOW pals described jerking off, using porn and the like using language like “treasonous”. Have I made this up after one too many white wine spritzers, or is this an actual thing in the bizarre MGTOW world.
If so, how do they reconcile their demand for sex-bots NOW DAMMIT NOW and the “if you touch it, you’ll go blind, grow hairy on your palms and are responsible for the continued slavery of all men, everywhere” attitude? Is there a schism in the MGTOW “movement”? Is the arrival of the “reformed MGTOW movement” imminent? Or is consistency, like women and rational argument, something these guys have no real need for?
And further, if not all MGTOWs say the same thing, how do they reconcile this view with their Borg-esq hive mind view of feminism?
Man, that picture is truly creepy. (Sorry to use robot shaming language.)
“When I first came to the MRM…”
“Even at that early stage of my MRA days…”
There sure do seem to be a lot of MRAs on The Spearhead. Hm. But I guess it`s totally not an MRA website because the Reddit MRAs said so.
It seriously freaks me out that one of the most infamous MRAs burned himself alive where I grew up. I’m afraid to find out how many other MRAs had been in my midst. Just like how apparently it’s a haven for juggalos which I never knew.
http://www.tresarah.com/portfolio/2011/11/gang-like-qualities.html
It’s like every time I go visit home there is a new story about some horrible thing a member of a group I despise has done. It’s such a nice little college town. What is going on?
Well, if you think a sufficiently advanced computing system can become a genuine artificial mind, you run into the issues of personhood again past a certain point.
Oh and I don’t think I could ever use a sexbot just because I’m already afraid of mannequins, having a sex bot in my bed would probably give me a heart attack. Not a virtual reality setup, that wouldn’t be too bad.
At the same time though, for me, sex is as much about energy a it is about orgasm. Half the reason I enjoy casual encounters is feeling the energy that comes from another person who i really excited and nervous and whatnot. That’s something that masturbation and sex bots could never recreate.
there’s an XKCD for every occasion…
http://xkcd.com/595/
Is it just me or does that sex doll in the picture look a lot like Catherine Tate?
Cat: In Mala Fide hates masturbation, yeah. The main blogger behind it wrote several books on the subject.
@Sharculese
Trolling would be my guess, it’s not the offensive things Ruby writes that make me think so, but the fact that the more offended responses she gets in a topic the less she actually replies.
About the robots… Nobody should feel threatened by the idea of “replacing” either gender, it’s like genetically engineering flying sharks: Anyone silly enough to want to do it is probably unable to meaningfully contribute to the project.
@DSC
While generally true, it’s clearly a feature, rather than a bug, in the MRM’s desire for them.
Okay, I know mocking the sexbot fetishists is fun (and really, it is), but I wanna focus, just for a second, on this bit:
****
:”share this pain with those inflicting it.
cue up “blood on the plow””
****
Now, I had to go digging up the lyrics to be sure–we’re talking about a song that peaked in the mid-80s, for pity’s sake–but “Rain on the Scarecrow” was actually a decent song… about banks foreclosing on small family farms… and those farms being bought up by corporate farmers at auction… and the families affected feeling helpless and, in many cases, a bit suicidal, simply because they’d lost everything that had been passed down to them (because it’s impossible to run a farm without being on perpetual loans, waiting for just one bad year to finish you off, these days). There’s two actual actions taken by the farmers in the song–the singer implies he’s cut ties with a former friend who took a job auctioning off the farm (but still promises to pray for his soul), and the farm families collectively stage a protest by putting crosses on the courthouse lawn, one for each farm lost to foreclosure.
So, just what the holy fuck does that have to do with the MRA cause? And if you cue it up during your effort to ‘share the pain’, are you imagining the women to be the banks? The judge who, in the song, is simply targeted with a quiet and dignified protest?
I’m not the best person to engage in written debate, in general I’m a woman of few words and have no idea about on-line politics.
Also I’m not offended by others opinions. Daily I deal with people who range politically from each extreme from far left to right and for the most part I find things I like about them as individuals.
I acknowledge that this is a blog designed to mock mra’s, hence mocking will happen but sometimes it reads as bullying back. It was nice to see today that behavior called out.