The sexy robot ladies are back! Not so much in real life, where they are still more scary than sexy, but in the fervid imagination of dudes who hate real ladies. Like Eric here, on The Spearhead:
When I first came to the MRM, there was a story in the news about a Japanese robotics engineer who had made a female android. It really wasn’t much more than a fairly realistic-looking doll; although there was quite a bit of discussion at the time for the potential to improve on the design. The main thing was that it’s invention caused a fury from the feminists. Even at that early stage in my MRA days, I could see the reason: for the first time women were looking the very real possibility that they could become expendable.
Well, “expendable” only if you view women as little more than support systems for their vaginas.
Personally, I’m more into foreign girls than virtual sex. But the same principle applies: as long as there are alternatives to feminists, the feminists are expendable. They don’t have the power to convert every woman on the planet; and even if they could they can’t stop men from building robots.
Please, build those robots, and lock yourselves away with them forever, and leave the rest of us alone.
Elsewhere in the same thread on The Spearhead we get some examples of why it’s a problem when Men Who Really Should Be Going Their Own way … don’t. A fellow calling himself Rmaxd apparently suggested that men who feel themselves to have been mistreated by the courts should: “Lynch a judge as you would any traitor or dictator.”
His comment was deleted, and heavily criticized — apparently for not being circumspect enough in his threatening language. After all, our dear friend JeremiahMRA got mostly upvotes on The Spearhead for a similarly threatening remark just the other day. And elsewhere in the very same thread as Rmaxd’s now-deleted comment we find a fellow called freebird suggesting that men who have allegedly suffered because of women should
share this pain with those inflicting it.
cue up “blood on the plow”
Meanwhile, again in the same thread, a commenter called walking in hell brings up the example of Thomas Ball, the MRA who self-immolated on the steps of a Keene, New Hampshire courthouse a year ago in hopes that his dramatic death would inspire other men to (quite literally) burn down police stations and courthouses using Molotov cocktails. (You can read Ball’s manifesto, complete with its call for MRA terrorism though without the specific instructions on how to make effective Molotov cocktails, on A Voice for Men, in its “activism” section; search the page for “burn” to go directly to his advocacy of terrorism.) Walking in hell also thinks family court judges should be “punished” for their alleged “crimes,” by which he means denying some fathers visitation.
[R]esponsibility for such heinous crimes against children can behold an individual to a special kind of punishment.
We see the nervous squirming by judges in the Australia case marked by the judge issuing an apology. We also see nervous squirming in the UK with the evildoers trying to issue fake political gestures to angry people.
The evildoers must smell something besides fire and brimstone. The sooner they get to the fire and brimstone, the better off children and fathers will be.
Apparently this vaguely threatening language was vague enough to pass muster on The Spearhead; this comment got more than a dozen upvotes.
The sooner you fuckers build those sexbots you like to talk about so much, the better for all of us.
You know those teens are going to scream and complain loudly and then he’ll get hauled off by the police and thrown into lock-up. Is that what you want for him? Maybe it is, under the guise of tolerance, of course.
Fallacy, if I were you, I’d be more concerned about when he takes his lady to you for couples conselling.
Dude, if the teens are in the backrow having sex just like sex obssessed people like you tend to think, I doubt they’ll even notice. Kinda hard to see anything when you’re going down on someone ya know?
I am concerned about that because I’ve never liked puppet shows and ventriloquists freak me out. And it’s much the muchness. Just with added sexual molestation and bad hygiene. Gross.
I’m not getting this slippery slope from “someone masturbates with a doll,” to “someone engages in hilariously inappropriate public behavior with a doll.”
I have a vibrator and I have yet to get in the habit of buying it a seat on the bus or dressing it up and taking it to the movies.
Fallacy
Then what you’re saying is that a problem that YOU have (an anxiety about dolls or a possible phobia) you’ve chosen to dwell on to the point of making extremely improbable scenarios and then foisting it off as being a sickness of people who enjoy the dolls but aren’t likely to do what you’re worried about.
PIH you just don’t get it. Do you think these guys want to stay locked up in a house or unit with their dolls all the time? No, they don’t. They want to take them out. They don’t take them out because they know they are going to come into CONFLICT with teens, with soccer mums, with police, with the bus driver, basically with EVERYONE. Because unlike you, most everyone doesn’t want to see a person living like that and having it shoved in their face. You on the other hand want him to go and shove his perversion in everyone’s face and you also don’t care if he gets bashed for it, just so long as you come off as tolerant and ‘all accepting’. The only person you care about looking good is yourself. Nice.
I’m really not suppressing any urges to take my vibrator to the park and push it on the tire swing, I promise.
I’d like to say you’re making leaps in logic, but really you’re just making mudane assumptions about someone you don’t know.
I have no particular wish to see someoe bashed, and would likely try to intervene if that was what was going down. As far as the dolls go, I’m not sure how many of the very few people who use them want to go. So unless you have a study about doll use, let it drop.
This right here? This is what’s called total fucking bullshit. Total fucking baseless bullshit.
Ugh.
In other words you admit you don’t know what you are talking about and you’re wrong.
Oh just in time, Viscaria must be here to tell us all about the outcomes from the study she did on the number of RealDoll fuckers who didn’t go postal after having their RealDoll stolen from outside a movie toilet.
Fallacy, you have no idea what YOU are going on about. If you live anywhere, there’s something of a kink community. In most cities there’s a fair sized kink community. How often do you see people wearing collars? Almost never? Yet subs sometimes want the humilliation of being seen in public wearing them. That’s part of the reason why there are play parties in safe, designated areas.
Swingers? Lotsa swinging going on in married couples, see a lot of open air random sex? No?
Even where dolls are a niche market companies provide safe environments where people can have their fantasies catered to without disturbing the larger community.
See how that works?
Fallacy, you don’t have anything proving that anyone has ever GONE postal after having their doll stolen.
Fallacy,
i have worked since 1996 with homeless people. i have come across my fair share of people with mental health issues and people trained to work with people with mental health issues. if i met someone like you, i would probably have the opinion that they were burned out.
i am not a counsellor, but i have received extensive training on counselling techniques, brief interventions, choice therapy and motivational interviewing.
my focus is client centred and with a view to ‘harm reduction’. in this situation, (i.e the desire to go out in public with a RealDoll) all you can do is discuss with the client the possible reactions of other people and coping strategies. you are not there to judge. What the client is doing is not illegal and if they wish to do so, Your job is to provide information and allow them to make an informed choice. People are allowed, gasp, to make decisions you don’t agree with.
i was at a training once on dealing with confronting behaviours and the trainer told us about a client who heard voices. She liked her voices, they were a comfort to her. She heard them when she walked home from work as it seemed that the noise of the traffic encouraged her voices to speak to her. So she would chat back. This led to people being upset and judgmental as she passed them by.
the trainer, instead of medicating her to pacify the reactions of the people around her, gave her a mobile phone (you can tell how long ago this training was since having a mobile was not as common). so she spoke to her voices with the mobile at her ear.
i loved this…she was able to hear her voices without a strenuous education session with every passerby. and no meds. of course we need to raise mental health awareness as a rule, i am not diminishing this i hope.
also in nigh on 16yrs of work, i never met a psychiatrist that has identified as a counsellor
There’s a whole lot of victim blaming going on here from Fallacy. “Don’t let them go outside or people will treat them like shit!” Well. Fucking. Duh.
Ahahah don’t let them kinksters be kinky otherwise they might take it out of the bedroom!! The horror!
“People who bring fuckdolls to movie theatres are mentally ill” is what’s called a positive claim, one that you have failed to support. “The mentally ill are likely to attack at any second” is also a positive claim, one that you have also failed to support, as well as one that has been repeatedly debunked. That’s not a primary source, it’s a CMHA article, because why the fuck would I bother looking for your sources for you first thing in the morning on my phone?
Plus, I couldn’t do a study anyway, I’d just end up having sex with the chairs and murdering the participants! You know, because I’m crazy!
The irony!
Yeah you know how those kinsters are! They get out in public and have the doms force! Force I say! People to stare at them!!!
Fallacy, don’t go to restaurants or bars…there might be kinky people there having a munch and meeting other kinky people…..
I think Fallacy assumes all kinksters act like this in public, only with sex toys:
They don’t, dude. I mean, just so you know.
Fallacy you do realize thats the exact same argument people make about kinksters and the lgtb right?
can i quickly clarify that, in my imaginary session with the client with the doll, i’m not really sure why they have come to see me.i’m just listening to what they are telling me and trying to help them identify issues. bit worried i came over all DOLL OWNER MENTAL HEALTH ALERT PERVERT which was not at all meant.
You know, I’m pretty sure one of those TLC shows featured a man in a relationship with his doll, and he wasnt making out with it in front of the children or running around on a rampage. Then again, it was TLC, so who knows how accurate it was?