The sexy robot ladies are back! Not so much in real life, where they are still more scary than sexy, but in the fervid imagination of dudes who hate real ladies. Like Eric here, on The Spearhead:
When I first came to the MRM, there was a story in the news about a Japanese robotics engineer who had made a female android. It really wasn’t much more than a fairly realistic-looking doll; although there was quite a bit of discussion at the time for the potential to improve on the design. The main thing was that it’s invention caused a fury from the feminists. Even at that early stage in my MRA days, I could see the reason: for the first time women were looking the very real possibility that they could become expendable.
Well, “expendable” only if you view women as little more than support systems for their vaginas.
Personally, I’m more into foreign girls than virtual sex. But the same principle applies: as long as there are alternatives to feminists, the feminists are expendable. They don’t have the power to convert every woman on the planet; and even if they could they can’t stop men from building robots.
Please, build those robots, and lock yourselves away with them forever, and leave the rest of us alone.
Elsewhere in the same thread on The Spearhead we get some examples of why it’s a problem when Men Who Really Should Be Going Their Own way … don’t. A fellow calling himself Rmaxd apparently suggested that men who feel themselves to have been mistreated by the courts should: “Lynch a judge as you would any traitor or dictator.”
His comment was deleted, and heavily criticized — apparently for not being circumspect enough in his threatening language. After all, our dear friend JeremiahMRA got mostly upvotes on The Spearhead for a similarly threatening remark just the other day. And elsewhere in the very same thread as Rmaxd’s now-deleted comment we find a fellow called freebird suggesting that men who have allegedly suffered because of women should
share this pain with those inflicting it.
cue up “blood on the plow”
Meanwhile, again in the same thread, a commenter called walking in hell brings up the example of Thomas Ball, the MRA who self-immolated on the steps of a Keene, New Hampshire courthouse a year ago in hopes that his dramatic death would inspire other men to (quite literally) burn down police stations and courthouses using Molotov cocktails. (You can read Ball’s manifesto, complete with its call for MRA terrorism though without the specific instructions on how to make effective Molotov cocktails, on A Voice for Men, in its “activism” section; search the page for “burn” to go directly to his advocacy of terrorism.) Walking in hell also thinks family court judges should be “punished” for their alleged “crimes,” by which he means denying some fathers visitation.
[R]esponsibility for such heinous crimes against children can behold an individual to a special kind of punishment.
We see the nervous squirming by judges in the Australia case marked by the judge issuing an apology. We also see nervous squirming in the UK with the evildoers trying to issue fake political gestures to angry people.
The evildoers must smell something besides fire and brimstone. The sooner they get to the fire and brimstone, the better off children and fathers will be.
Apparently this vaguely threatening language was vague enough to pass muster on The Spearhead; this comment got more than a dozen upvotes.
The sooner you fuckers build those sexbots you like to talk about so much, the better for all of us.
Well, a quick search revealed that Fah Lo Suee is apparently a Marvel character, though a kind-of villain, not a hero. And daughter of the ever-tasteful villain Fu Manchu.
FallalalalaTroll I do care about idiots who are constantly trying to redefine what normality and abnormality really is.
Normal is basically the majority, the default.
A huge majority of blog and blog comments I read do not rant about men with sex dolls in public in great detail.
Therefore, I have determined that you, FalalalalalalaTroll, are ABBY NORMAL!
“I think he has a real problem that actually needs to be acknowledged as such.”
Psych major here — it’s only a disorder if it either causes distress, or harms someone — fetishes are only a disorder if they cause distress, or are acted on with an unwilling partner (or acted on at all in the case of pedophilia, since there’s no possibility of a consenting partner there). In other words, if they’re not distressed by liking dolls, and not forcing unwilling people to watch their doll sex, then it isn’t a disorder.
If merely being abnormal made one mentally ill, MENSA would be in serious trouble since they’re de facto smarter than normal, by a lot.
Re: “who is Catherine Tate?” — she played Donna on Doctor Who is where I know her from, though I’m sure she’s had other parts. (Try IMDB)
Dear Abby Normal Troll: on the other hand, nothing you are doing here is illegal.
So if you wish to continue to make a display of yourself in front of a lot of strangers, feel free.
I shall politely ignore you because I think you’re getting a bit more aroused by it all than is good for you.
We went to AVENGERS for the fourth time.
Even MORE in love with it — god, Whedon does some brilliant cuts/shifts from scene to scene–damn near poetry!
Our plans for this weekend: see one new movie a day, probably in this order:
FRIDAY: ABRAHAM LINCOLN, VAMPIRE HUNTER!
SATURDAY: BRAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SUNDAY: MADAGASCAR (for the penguins. I am in total lust/love with those penguins! PENGUINS).
What are you all doing this weekend?
@ PsychoDan: She’s also from Sax Rohmer’s original Fu Manchu novels. IIRC, she was torn between her father’s arch-enemy, Sir Dennis Nayland-Smith, and her father himself, who subjected her to various abuses in order to retain her loyalty. So, yeah, weird person to name yourself after.
Also, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought the doll looked like Catherine Tate.
Freemage: It’s pretty clear that in “Rain on the Scarecrow” the farmer killed the banker.
Ithiliana: don’t know yet, probably staying inside as much as possible since it’s going to be 100 this weekend through… oh, October or so.
I love those penguins too. Especially when they get to Antarticia and are all, “This sucks.”
Muzolf: What a lying twit you are.
That was someone who felt his life was effectively over and decided to end it himself (instead of letting the state do it)
The State was going to kill him? No.
As to the issue of his encouraging bombings… he did. I read his manifesto.
Why do you want to cover that up?
Ithiliana has a point. Dear angry exciteable trolls – wanking in public isn’t necessarily disordered, but it is highly impolite. If we’re going to talk about people imposing their unusual fetishes on the general public, what about guys who troll feminist blogs because yelling abuse at women gives them an erection? That’s not what I’d call keeping your fetish discretely to yourself.
zOMG is that what time it is?! It snuck up on me!
Jebus H. Crispy on a cracker. This is possibly the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. Ever. And I’ve read WorldNetDaily. You realise “Lars and the Real Girl” was not a documentary, right? I could, of course, respond with something sensible, but that would dignify this argument beyond its worth. Suffice to say, when has this ever happened?
First sex-dolls. Then what’s next? People will be marrying cows and dogs and beluga whales, and strapping hamburgers to their feet! Won’t somebody think of the of the children
Ithiliana: I’m attending another wedding in Canada. I’m irked that the bride is being a bit of an idiot, but I’ll cope.
“the doll takes up the last seat … on public transport”
She can stand, her feet won’t get tired XD
She can stand…..
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Where’s B_____n?
Guys? I missed the entirely of page 3 somehow… *feels silly*
“So in other words you’d personally love to see the perverts out in public on dates with their fuck dolls. I’m gonna have to ascribe a completely selfish motivation to your support for this kind of behaviour. It would make people watching oh so much entertaining, wouldn’t it?”
Actually, I really just don’t care any.
“…I would love to be seating nearby watchng this play out.”
Oh, you were projecting, got it.
“1 +1 = 2 not fucking 5.”
No, but it is 3, for sufficiently large values of 1. (That’s math joke about rounding errors, if that wasn’t clear.)
“In case my position isn’t clear enough yet for you seriously dumb asshats, I have an issue with people who redefine reality, saying what is not real, is. Which they do because they either (a) can’t accept reality or (b) can’t cope with it. You lost all have problem (a); sex doll fuckers have problem (b).”
You’re the one having an issue with a changing reality, AI is a new concept, of course sexbots weren’t a concept of 50s morality, no one then could’ve predicted they’d exist. Now we can, and are thus forming opinions on the morality of it. You may disagree, but your reasoning as to why you disagree at least needs to catch up with post-90s morality (eg kissing in public is fine, masturbating in public is not, and fucking everyone knows that)
“I’m tired of debating morons. When you all figure out the differences between reality v’s non reality and mental health vs mental illness maybe I’ll come back. Until then, try and keep this oh my gosh novel consideration in mind: just because you label or define something as normal, doesn’t mean it is.”
Just because you label something abnormal (even if it actually is even!) doesn’t make it a mental illness, I already explained that though. Here, have an example — I was just scrolling with my toes, that’s abnormal right? Not the normal way to scroll that is, yes? Considering my hands were busy keeping my ice pop off my keyboard, is it a mental illness? Nope, just a bit odd. See how this works?
Argenti, you are in the throes of pedivolvism.
True. Some other things that are not normal include:
– Using a cane to walk
– Having a cane with racing flames on it
– Eating curry for breakfast and cereal for dinner
– Wearing a very geeky t-shirt (“+20 Shirt of Smiting”)
– Having a four-octave vocal range
– Improvising a song about robot weasels from the future
– Setting up a laptop and wireless mouse in the bathroom so that you can watch reruns of Mythbusters from the tub
– Trying to blow kisses through the phone because your partner is 1300 miles away
– Falling asleep hugging a pillow that has a heartbeat
…and yet, I’ve done all of those things in the last 24 hours. And, while I could be wrong, I don’t really think tolerating my continued cane-using, high-and-low-note-hitting, weasel-song-making, cereal-dinner-eating existence is some horrifying imposition on society. I like being moderately abnormal. Heck, I get paid to be abnormal – I included my unusually large vocal range specifically because it’s a major factor in getting me singing jobs. You can’t just say, “that’s not normal” and expect anyone with any sense to conclude “that means it’s BAD,” let alone “that means we must SHUN the abnormal people.” Being an Olympic-level athlete is not normal. Being a genius is not normal. Being a billionaire is not normal. Do you really want to argue that that makes those things terrible, horrible, shameful things to be?
So yeah, fucking dolls isn’t normal. No shit. And if you were to come up with a reason why it’s actually harmful to someone, then I might manage to care a little bit, but when all you’ve got is “you guys, some people are WEIRD,” I cannot fathom why that’s supposed to be upsetting. Fucking dolls isn’t my thing, but there’s millions and millions of things I don’t enjoy and other people do. I see no reason to get any more worked up over “some people have sex toys I find unappealing” than “some people eat foods I find unappealing” or “some people listen to music I find unappealing.”
katz — pedivolvism turns up an entire 0 google hits, your usage (invention?) of it isn’t spidered yet. So I have to guess, and my Latin is saying something about foot rolling?
Ah…scrolling is a sort of rolling I guess…
Lol, your joke, it was too witty not to get stuck in “wait that’s Latin!” mode, sorry.
Wow, I missed some interesting trolls!
Ithiliana, I will be spending my weekend with thousands of librarians. Here is a slightly dated documentary on the experience:
We are forgetting how many JOBS the sex robot industry will create for men! (We all know teh wimminz can’t build robots). Forget high speed railways, we need a sex robot stimulus!
You know, personally, when I’m enjoying something sexual, I rarely thinking to myself “oh god, I really really hope this is the way most people get off. I can’t enjoy it unless I know it’s normal.” I just enjoy the things I enjoy, who fucking cares if it’s “weird” or not?
Ooh and Fallacy, since we’re chatting: while yes, obviously fucking dolls doesn’t mean you’re mentally ill, dismissing people’s behaviours and experiences as inherently worthless because you’ve decided they’re mentally ill makes you a massive doucheface whether you’re right about your internet diagnosis or not. So, you know, enjoy. But hey, don’t worry, my opinion doesn’t matter! Everything I say is suspect, because I have the cray-cray!
Ithiliana:
OMIGOSH OMIGOSH OMIGOSH I’M SO EXCITED. I hope it’s actually good, I’ve built it up so much in my mind that I’ll be crushed if it’s only so-so XD.
1+1=10. Binary shatters Fah Lo Suee’s reality.
Did someone mention “Chobits”?
Yeah, that’s not how you “turn on” a gal….
hurr hurr hurr
stimulus