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To arms, Men’s Rights Redditors! Evil feminists are running riot on Wikipedia, deleting pages devoted to books by MRA hero Warren Farrell!

 

Oops. False alarm! Turns out WillToHave doesn’t quite understand how Wikipedia works. As one commenter pointed out several hours after the post went up, no pages about Farrell’s books have actually been deleted. The reason there are no pages about most of his books is … that no one has bothered to put any up yet.

D’oh! MRAs aren’t being oppressed by feminists; they’re being oppressed by their own laziness.

Of course, the only ones who know this are those who’ve bothered to actually read the comments. 15 hours after being totally debunked, the post, with its misleading headline, remains near the top of the Men’s Rights subreddit, with 142 net upvotes.

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Amused
8 years ago

Paul, if we call, and your wife picks up, maybe we’ll just talk to her instead?

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

That’s goddamn horrible. Although I wonder what he thinks would happen if we talked to his “target.” I mean, we’re not going to OPEN with the false rape accusation, y’know? We’re going to have a conversation where it instantly becomes clear we’ve got the wrong guy and he’s never heard of this blog.

Maybe he did it because he figured feminists really would open with a false rape accusation and/or terrorist act? That’s my only guess.

pecunium
pecunium
8 years ago

Snowy: Paul was saying.. nothing much, and all of that was unrelated to anything in the post… well no: he is, as stated, fighting an imaginary enemy: The Pussy Pass.

You know, the one that had a woman sentenced, yesterday, to 13 years for killing her child here in Canada.

lowquacks
8 years ago

I just wonder what happens in Paul’s plan if he answers the phone.

MBZ: “Hello, I’m an internet feminist, is Patricia here?”

PH: “Don’t want to talk to a MAN, ey? Too used to talking to THE SCUM MANIFESTO while DIVORCING your CATS? Sounds a little MISANDRIST to me.”

MBZ: “No, you asked me to ask her for her.”

PH: “That’s because you have a MANGINA. Are you MARRIED, perchance?”

MBZ: “That’s none of your business.”

PH: “It became my business when you DELETED my WIKIPEDIA PAGE.”

MBZ: “What?”

PH: “Patricia, there’s a FEMINAZI on the phone who wants to talk to you.”

MBZ:”…Is Paul there?”

Patricia: “You were just speaking to him. He left just then to go to the police station. Y’know, just to meet up with some friends.”

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

In what world do police stations host Internet meetups, anyway? They’re not going to just give you a conference room.

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

I wonder, did Paul imagine any of were weak-willed enough that his childish posturing would lead us to give out our personal info, or was he just trying to fuck with his neighbor?

lowquacks
8 years ago

Oops, just read Bee’s bit on the actual PH situation. That’s really awful. Is this someone trying to weaponise those hostile feminists who false-accuse everybody then? I can’t believe someone can manage to be both that willfully detached from reality and that vindictive. One would be bad enough.

lowquacks
8 years ago

I know I have all my social functions at the local cop shop.

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

Lowquacks – The scary part is that it suggests they actually believe this “false accusation any time you make a woman angry” stuff. I thought they just used that line to abuse rape survivors. Freaks me out that this guy apparently takes it literally.

Amused
8 years ago

Cliff Pervocarcy:

That’s goddamn horrible. Although I wonder what he thinks would happen if we talked to his “target.” I mean, we’re not going to OPEN with the false rape accusation, y’know? We’re going to have a conversation where it instantly becomes clear we’ve got the wrong guy and he’s never heard of this blog.

Maybe he did it because he figured feminists really would open with a false rape accusation and/or terrorist act? That’s my only guess.

I think the basic idea is, we call this man, who is probably a neighbor or an acquaintance, and regardless of what we say, “Paul” here will have a story of how deranged feminists called and harassed some random guy just because he is male.

Polliwog
Polliwog
8 years ago

Man, I missed some complete bizarreness while I was away from the computer baking a pie for my dad. (I do these sorts of things because I hate all men, obviously. The pie tasted of misandry. Also key limes. But mostly misandry.)

Kirby and Lowquacks, your summations of what an in-person or phone conversation with our little troll here would sound like totally cracked me up. Well done!

cloudiah
8 years ago

The librarian revolution will be a democratic revolution. The people will rule; the librarians will simply make sure the five laws of S. R. Ranganathan are respected:

Books are for use.
Every reader his [or her] book.
Every book its reader.
Save the time of the reader.
The library is a growing organism.

(Just substitute whatever thing you’re into — comics, movies, photos, datasets, maps, posters, recordings of “Cielito Lindo” — for books, and you get the idea. Well, I guess sometimes you’ll have to change reader into something else. You get the idea.)

lowquacks
8 years ago

The librarian revolution will be a democratic revolution. The people will rule;

That’s only until the Dewey/Library-of-Congress factional violence breaks out.

cloudiah
8 years ago

Oh and I’m not afraid of this dude. Here’s who I am:

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

cloudiah, if you don’t know about this already, I think it may be of interest to you: http://www.amazon.com/Rex-Libris-Volume-One-Librarian/dp/1593620624/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340510487&sr=8-1&keywords=rex+libris

cloudiah
8 years ago

@lowquacks, So true, so sadly true.
@Dracula OMG, that makes me want to GO THE FUCK TO THE LIBRARY!

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

Okay, if I failed to notice you referencing the thing I just linked to, I’m going to be very embarrassed.

cloudiah
8 years ago

No, no, I am literally linking to a site called GO THE FUCK TO THE LIBRARY (so I can check that out).

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

Yeah, I got that. What I meant was I think that thing you quoted a few posts back is also quoted in Rex Libris, so that’s where my worry came from. Forgive my neurosis.

cloudiah
8 years ago

I’ve never read Rex Libris, and it looks cool. (Ranganathan and Panizzi are my heroes.)

I will forgive your neurosis, if you forgive mine. 🙂

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

Consider it done. 🙂

katz
8 years ago

I’m imagining all the police stations in Massachusetts being full of random MRAs talking to people.

Shadow
8 years ago

I don’t know how to react to what I’m seeing!

WOW, I guess I won!!!

What a debater!!!

@katz

Wasn’t there some MRA exhorting his comrades to introduce themselves and the MRM to the cops around them in an effort to protect themselves from false accusations from feminists? No matter how hard you try, you can’t out-ridiculous these dudes!

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

Wow, that was weird. What was Paul trying to prove, that he’s an actual human (with a wife) and not a spambot?

pecunium
pecunium
8 years ago

Paul: I have to ask, how many of you are married??

No, you don’t have to. You choose to. I, for one, don’t credit you with any good intention to the question.

pecunium
pecunium
8 years ago

What’s with the, “prove you mean it”? Really, what is the difference between you shouting incoherently here, and shouting incoherently at a police station in Edmonton?

Why would I want to spend money to hear you blither? It’s not as if I’m actually hiding who I am. It’s not as if I’ve not crossed the country to talk about things I believe; but when I have the people who wanted to hear me paid me for coming.

So, round trip tickets, hotel, food, and an honorarium. You’ll need to rent a hall, and advertise the event. Those are the minimum requirements for my appearance.

pecunium
pecunium
8 years ago

WTF was that? Who is Paul? Why should I care? Why in the world would I want to call him? Why is he so unclear on just where he lives?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
8 years ago

Ahh, I see. In Paul’s mind, if you rant and rave on random topics in a forum, and you get moderated or banned, that means you’ve won! You’ve shown how your enemy silences opinions, and is generally evil and slimey and icky!

Kind of weird that getting banned would be a badge of honor… Though Paul really could have just said from the beginning “I want you to ban me.” I’m sure Futrelle could have happily obliged.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Worcester is just about an hour from the center of Boston guys… (got lost there once leading to a wonderful conversation with my mother about how to get out of worcester sauce, was much funnier than fighting about how to pronounce Worcester)

Don’t worry kirbywarp, it isn’t the water, my ex-fiance’s brother lives in MA, and he’s nothing like an MRA.

“WOW, I’m calling you out with my personal information and you wont stand up to me by providing the same!”

*shudder* or maybe we have reasons that have nothing to do with you? Like, idk, a stalker ex I don’t want finding me? Do you get that this is indexed and google searchable?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

“Really, what is the difference between you shouting incoherently here, and shouting incoherently at a police station in Edmonton?”

Oh there’s a difference alright, one of those might get him arrested, which is probably the goal because then he can claim he was arrested just because he disagreed with women.

Hint Paul — yelling in front of cops is a bad idea (actually, questioning them at all is, but this is neither the time nor the place for that story).

pecunium
pecunium
8 years ago

Worcester also has the Higgins Armory Museum, and a pretty nice Fechtschule.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Well, I’m bored, so I went digging, and it looks like our Paul could actually be who he claims (either that or they have remarkably similar views) — an example or two. And it would be against charter’s acceptable use policy to be impersonating someone…doesn’t mean he isn’t, but I think he’s legit (of course, great, now we know for sure who this asshole is, that matters in what manner exactly?)

Pecunium — I’m sure Worcester is lovely if it isn’t where you happened to screw up the Mass turnpike. As it was I needed to be an hour away and this was before cell phones to explain that I’d be late, and before GPS, google maps, etc. And of-fucking-course my map didn’t have the directions back to the highway in any comprehensible fashion. This is basically the case every time my mother goes anywhere, she got lost in Hartford last time I was up there (twice, the second time nearly ending up in MA before she’d believe me that she was too far north and heading north >.< )

Jessay (@jessay)
8 years ago

There are a lot of sexists in MA, but I mean, there are a lot of sexists everywhere. I’m glad I’ve yet to meet someone who actually claims to be an MRA though. There are a bunch of libertarians around here too who all conveniently oppose programs which help women, POC, people with disabilities, etc, because they’re white, straight, cis, able-bodied men who don’t benefit from such programs therefore it’s easy to pretend they don’t matter.

Worcester… ehh, the Palladium was really fun when I was younger. I saw a lot of bands there. But there isn’t a chance in hell I’m driving there to meet a 52 year old man to have a conversation when he can’t even seem to type a coherent thought.

As for the actual points he was pasting from other websites, I think he’s confusing PMS with PMDD. Also, depression is a real thing. Sometimes men kill because of depression and other mental illness too. Using depression in court is not a gender exclusive phenomenon. A lot of people plead insanity.

He also wants to pretend that men don’t get beaten into submission or beaten down until they do unthinkable things. I guess he’s never heard of women whose abusive s.o.’s track them down and drag them back home. Nope, never happens in Paul’s world.

I’m sure if I had the patience and desire I could come up with at least 12 men who have beat murder charges and create similar reasons why as if there was some sexist conspiracy.

Western women have no idea how rude they are because most of them have never lived in another country to see how other women act, and never been on the receiving end in the same way men have. Instead they say that men have an entitlement complex and just can’t handle not being worshipped. No, many of us are tired of women that act superior and assume right of way.

You’re telling me a man has never been rude to me? Men have never called me fat or ugly? Men have never called me a slut or a bitch? Men have never laughed at me? Men have never use me, left me hanging, purposely hurt me? Dude you are living in a fantasy world if you think that men can’t/don’t dish out the same rudeness that women can/do.

I get the feeling that this guy chooses to date women who are only concerned about their looks and holds women up to ridiculously high physical standards, and is then perplexed that they have nothing to say. Durrr, if you teach someone that their worth is in applying makeup, doing their hair, and going to the gym, they’re less likely to value their intelligence. But I also get the feeling that what he really wants is a submissive women who lets him do all the talking while she smiles and nods. He doesn’t actually want an intelligent woman, just someone who makes him feel intelligent.

Regardless, any time I hear someone talk like this on a blog like he did about his wealth and looks and whatnot I always assume they’re referring to their Sim.

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
8 years ago

You know, I don’t give out my personal information on the internet for the same reason I don’t give strangers my wallet. I think it’s prudent,and it’s common sense. The fact the Paul has neither prudence nor common sense is nobody’s fault but his own. David is being kinder than Paul can imagine by deleting his information.

I think his reason for demanding a meet-up is probably 1) he knows no one will take him up on it and 2) he imagines that, as unfuckable cat-women or effeminate men, we would undoubtedly present as such in a meet-up, thereby proving…whatever point he’s trying to make. Either way, boo-yah, he wins–which is really what it’s all about, amirite?

Meanwhile, life goes on as before. Another day, another troll spouting the same tired old bullshit.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

“The fact the Paul has neither prudence nor common sense is nobody’s fault but his own. David is being kinder than Paul can imagine by deleting his information.”

Just for the record here, I had no trouble finding his address while trying to find other comments by him — I don’t think he understands internet security at all. As every geek knows, it isn’t the computer part of security that fails, it’s the human part — Paul is a PICNIC (problem in chair, not in computer)

paulhurteau@charter.net
paulhurteau@charter.net
8 years ago

Oh, I understand internet security, I just have no fear of any of you.

By the way,,, You should watch this:

A woman exposes the entitlement mentality of feminists,,

paulhurteau@charter.net
paulhurteau@charter.net
8 years ago

I LOVE THIS WOMAN!!!!

paulhurteau@charter.net
paulhurteau@charter.net
8 years ago

More of “I LOVE THIS WOMAN”!!!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

“Oh, I understand internet security, I just have no fear of any of you.”

Oh look who’s back, thanks for proving your a PICNIC…let me guess, you’re running vista? Or better yet, XP still?

pecunium
pecunium
8 years ago

He doesn’t fear any of us. Nor anyone else who might read this.

More proof the “fears” of the MRM are baseless.

That, and more proof they don’t know what to be afraid of.

If someone really wants to harm me, they can. All they need is enough information to find me. That’s why, when someone looks at my flicker stream, none of the photos I’ve ever taken within 200 metres of where I live, are located where I live.

It’s why the most granular comments I make about location are the city I live in. The weakest link in that is my place of work, but if they have my name, there are ways to find that; and the only people really likely to want to harm me, are going to be able to find it.

Then again, I don’t have a regular work schedule, so it’s back to professionals, and a pro is going to find me in any case; because there are public records, they know how to access.

But he’s not afraid of us, because none of us are known professional killers.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

I didn’t post the half of what was easily findable, since I was only looking for other comments to confirm/deny the consistency of his idiocy. He doesn’t need to fear us, but he should still probably fear the internets in general, who the fuck knows what kind of sick people are out there? (And Paul, if I’ve found the right Paul, your job will attract that type)

pecunium
pecunium
8 years ago

To be fair Argenti… It looks as if that career is a bit moribund. He’s certainly got less than stellar taste (or perhaps skill) in poetry.

But hey, he knows how to be rude on the internet, that’s gotta be worth something.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
8 years ago

The commentariat here are probably not a problem.

You may wanna worry about fraudsters trying to pull some sort of identity theft scam, however, before you spew personal details all over the webotubes.

Stay safe!

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