Sorry I haven’t been around much in the last couple of days. Sometimes I just need to clear my head of all this manosphere nonsense. Regular posts will resume shortly. In the meantime, some pictures to amuse you, and a new video from Azealia Banks.
We Hunted The MammothBucking the Backlash
The continued financial success of Victoria’s Secret is very confusing to him given the no-panties issue.
I’m sure sexy panties are OK. It’s just granny panties that he can’t explain.
Sharculese wrote: “my sister is the same way. in her case it’s a symptom of borderline personality disorder.”
I’m sorry to hear about your sister. My brother-in-law sounds a lot like her, the way he tells a lie and then convinces himself it’s the truth.
The worst example of this was when my sister died and we were planning her funeral. Everything my mother suggested (minister, organist, flowers, etc.) was rejected by him. He claimed that two days before my sister died, they had a long conversation where she told him how she wanted her funeral. No one believed him, because she was receiving massive doses of morphine to control the pain. The times I saw her, she would surface for a minute or so at most, barely conscious. There is simply no way they could have had a conversation at that point. But he convinced himself they did and he went against my mother’s wishes, saying he hated to do so, but had to honor my sister’s last wishes.
And reading all the cute comments about conehead cats made me think about what a cat-hater he is. When he was younger, he said that he tried to run over every cat he saw out in the road when he was driving. Maybe there is something about cats’ independent natures that infuriate certain men.
Slavey, the minute you figure how to grow a baby in your abdomen, you can decide whether or not to let it stay there. Until then, boo-fuckin’-hoo. You have the right your body, women have the right to theirs. Deal with it.
Ithilana – his hair gets longer every time he tells a lie? So, how many times has it wrapped the globe by now?
One of my dogs had to wear a cone for several weeks after abdominal surgery, mostly because she popped all her stitches the first day and rather upset the vet. (“All of MY stitches? No dog’s done that before . . .”) She was very good at using it as a weapon by the time we took it off her. We all had bruises.
No, reproductive rights does not mean having the right to reproduce. It means the right to have control over your own reproductive organs that are inside your own body. You do not have the right to control other people’s bodies. It’s not that complicated.
Wait, why am I trying to explain anything to Mr Slave again?
@Dracula
“You have the right your body, women have the right to theirs. Deal with it.”
If it was the womans body that died that’d be suicide. It’s a body that she chose to kill that died. Women just want happy words like pro choice instead of truthful words like premeditated murder. Kinda hard to spin that one into a righteous cause, or relieve women of accountability. “Big Daddy, make it all better!” The patriarchy is there to serve your whims.
I was issued with a womb at birth, and I’m pretty sure it only gives me the right to reproduce if I do it by parthenogenesis. I don’t get to demand that anyone provides me with sperm: not a random person off the street, not a friend, not a partner, not a spouse. We might decide to reproduce together, but it can only be by mutual agreement.
Sure, I could go to a sperm bank, if I like the “random person” option best. But I don’t have a right to the existence of sperm banks. And if I hadn’t been issued with a womb, I’d have exactly the same rights: I can find someone to reproduce with by mutual agreement, or I can not reproduce.
The asymmetry comes in when fertilisation occurs and a mutual agreement does not exist. Preference in decision-making regarding gestation and birth is then given to the person whose body is required for gestation and birth, because forcing someone to spend months with another lifeform growing inside their body without their consent is sick and wrong, and forcing someone to take drugs or undergo surgery against their will is also sick and wrong. After conception, bodily autonomy trumps the desire to not be a parent.
In summary:
Everyone has the right not to be pregnant if they don’t want to be. Everyone has the right, if they are pregnant, to remain pregnant if they want to be. Nobody has the right to become pregnant without the consent of the other person involved. Nobody has the right to force someone else to become pregnant without their consent. Nobody has the right to force someone else to stop being pregnant without their consent.
Slavey, even if I accept your premise (I don’t), don’t insult me by pretending you’re morally opposed to murder.
@NWO: When is this magic time? Not when fathers were routinely given custody.
You also probably don’t know how impossible it was to get divorces–esp. for women in the US in the past.
Because you’re a delusional shit-faced troll.
NWO — I see Ithiliana has already tackled the “fathers never got custody” lie. So I’ll take on some of the others.
“There’s no place a man or woman who kidnapped children could go for refuge. Even their own relatives would shun them.”
This is also bullshit — perhaps most relatives would shun them, but enough don’t that this is actually a common problem in cases involving international relatives — one parent will flee the country and move in with *gasp* relatives in their home country. Oh and these cases are actually called parental kidnapping, because a court order was violated. Getting a fucking court order isn’t kidnapping.
“Using a condom is to not reproduce, which is the opposite of reproducing.”
Which is exercising his reproductive rights — if he had none sperm-jacking would both be a thing in the real world, and legal (do you try to be obtuse or does it just come naturally?)
“If anyone here had been successfully aborted as a fetus you would be dead. That’s a fact.”
Nope, you’d have never existed, just like if your father had worn a rubber. Or if your parents had married different people. Or if your mother had miscarried. Etc.
“If it was the womans body that died that’d be suicide. It’s a body that she chose to kill that died.”
Legalese time! A quote from a case involving a fetus in a freezer (yeah I’m serious) — “But later, Lt. Daniel Herrmann said the abuse of a corpse charge applies only to human beings. Under the law, he said, a fetus is not considered a human being.” Wrong ethically, wrong legally, any other scale you’d like to be wrong on?
Oh and suicide isn’t a crime (in most places) btw. Further, what Dracula said — you’ve made it clear you’re okay with murdering born women, so why are unborn fetuses so special? Adult women have thoughts and, importantly, an ability to survive on their own. Fetuses have neither — they can neither survive without another person’s organs, nor are they capable of wanting not to be killed. Meanwhile you’re just dandy with the idea of killing adult women who would, presumably, be begging for their lives.
And you want to argue about moral superiority? That’s nearly funny.
I am fucking tired of anti-abortion people who don’t even NOTICE (or blatantly intentionally misunderstand) teh arguments that fetuses are not human, and I am also to a lesser degree fucking tired of pro-choicers who don’t even notice the anti-abortionists claim that killing fetuses is murder. It honestly sometimes looks like from their own point of view pro-choicers are advocating kiling for The Greater Good. Not that the greater good is a bad thing, but it still makes us look bad.
Where does he get off claiming that feminists are advocating sexualizing children? That’s pretty far out. Mostly they oppose that stuff, while advocating for the right of adults WHO WANT TO to sexualize themselves.
GUIZE GUIZE BOTH SIDES DO IT
We certainly notice when someone walks into a church and shoots an abortion provider in the face. We notice when someone firebombs or just regular-bombs a Planned Parenthood. We notice when Susan G. Komen Race for the Money severs all ties with Planned Parenthood because a small percentage of their clinics offer actual abortion services.
You seem to agree that killing fetuses is murder. Is chemotherapy murder? Are radiation treatments for cancer murder? For a lot of their development, fetuses are masses of cells and tissues. They generally can’t feel pain before 20 weeks, and their brains aren’t anywhere near fully developed even when they’re born. And yet, somehow, this clump of human cells is so important to some people that they kill other people in order to protect it. Nobody bats an eye when someone takes chemo for cancer and starts shooting oncologists.
See? We address the claims that abortion is murder. They’re generally highly exaggerated appeals to emotion, as are most of the claims of the forced-birthers.
Made a hash out of the grammar on that one, what?
“Nobody starts shooting oncologists because people take chemo for cancer.”
How’s that?
@Engineer Krause: It honestly sometimes looks like from their own point of view pro-choicers are advocating kiling for The Greater Good.
Citation totally fucking needed.
From my point of view, it looks like a fucking scary amount of conservative people are trying to control women’s access to health care and the ability to make choices about their own bodies.
I don’t ‘debate’ the claim that “abortion is murder’ because there’s no way to change the mind of anybody who is making that dribble of a claim (also, I don’t debate creationists).
I also think it’s fucking arrogant of you to claim some “Greater Good” crap–when in 40 plus years of tracking these debates, I’ve never seen a feminist make this claim.
Maybe you have, in which case, as I said, citation fucking needed.
Oh, we’re playing watch the troll fight the strawfeminist again?
Cassandra: Again? I think it’s a never-ending game, they just tag team in new players, while we have to make do with the same old string.
Which puts the ball in our court, because it’s really rare for them to actually have anything new, and we have veterans to their rookies.
I know this is super late but I’m slowly catching up on what I’ve missed.
Nature erves the female? Right, because bleeding from your vagina and being in extreme agony once a month is a real fucking cushy gig. Oh, and then having to squeeze a baby out of a hole ten times smaller than it is is wicked fun too. Oh and being built on the smaller side so that the opposite gender can more easily overpower you totally gives you a leg up in the world.
How many ways can I list which nature specifically screwed women over?
Oh I hope so. Woe is that guy for not being able to get the woman of his dreams. Watch what would happen if I went into a men’s rights forum and complained that I was incel. Instead of just being told “this is not an advice column” I would be blamed for it. They’d either say I was fat, ugly, a bitch, etc, and side with the guys who refuse to date me. Seriously, someone go test out this little experiment pleeeassee.
ANIMALS IN HEAT DO NOT DRESS UP!
According to NWO, this is what an animal in heat looks like
OBV a lot of people did seeing as she raised $150,000+.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/u-mad
Oh right. I forgot. The first rule of feminism is to dress your child like a porn star.
The day that elected officials try to ban condoms and visectomies, your health care doesn’t cover visectomies and people working at stores can refuse to sell you condoms for “moral reasons” you can complain to me about you lack of reproductive rights.
And if you’re really so eager for reproductive rights, put your time and money where your mouth is and start campaigning for a pill for men. Better yet, fund the research that will allow men to become pregnant. Then YOU can have all the fun worrying every month if you’re pregnant, facing the terrifying reality of a child you’re not ready for, and choosing whether or not to get an abortion. Please, take that burden off my hands.
And there is seriously no reasoning with someone who thinks that child support is extortion and being granted custody by the courts is kidnapping. I think we’re done here.