Today I’d like to present to you a really ranty old post from Masculist Man on his unimaginatively named Men’s Rights Blog.
But let’s do this a little differently this time. Let’s make it a little contest.
I want you to take a deep breath, loosen up your tongue, and see how much of his rant you can read, out loud, in one breath. (Just don’t kill yourself in the process, please.)
Why the militancy
That question has been asked by many MRA’s and the answer should be obvious: what has moderation accomplished for us? What has “niceness” done for us? Besides getting us deeper into this mess. Why be nice to an enemy that not only wants to take everything from you but would like to see you DEAD on top of it. Not only that but if you are a father with sons the average feminist would like to see your young sons dead too …
Oh, crap, that’s as far as I got. Deep, deep breath. Here’s the rest. It took me five breaths to get through it. See if you can beat me.
just because they are male. These Neville Chamberlains would have you believe they can accomplish peace in our time by making deals with these devils and just like any deal with the devil they get burned. Not only them but the rest of us as well. Then the moderates have the nerve to tell us to shut up or we’ll play into the feminist hands. The one thing that I think of is that if we stay silent we definitely will play into the feminists hands,the same if we play “nice”. If we play nice,just as we have for the last 160 years (if you include feminism as a whole) or for 40 years (if you are focusing on 2nd wave feminism) then we will continue to get fucked. Why the militancy? Because it is hard to be nice when you are getting assfucked in court (family to criminal to civil) and it’s really hard to be nice when society blames YOU for what happens in a “he said/she said” situation even though SHE IS THE ONE AT FAULT and it’s really hard to be nice and pleasant when you try to illustrate what is happening to you and/or other men in society when everybody wants to play the ostrich and would rather not know,that is until another “he said/she said” situation arises again and then it’s boom,they back off to the races to repeat the same mistakes as last time and when they do they are applauded by the lemmings that make up society lest they are labelled “politically incorrect”. It seems they would rather kill their own families to avoid being labelled “politically incorrect”. A big problem with moderates is that they are usually staffed by older manginas or young men from single mother homes that don’t want to upset women and that there defeats the purpose of being an MRA because if you don’t upset women then you will stay silent concerning mens’ issues and the women win by your silence. TO ERODE WOMEN’S POWER OVER MEN ONE MUST SPEAK UP AND DESTROY THE FEMINSIT MONSTER THAT WANTS TO DESTROY YOU AND YOUR BROTHERS.
Instead of asking why the militancy one should ask is the militancy legitimate? and the answer is “yes”.
Post your results below!
I lost it after “the moderates.” Where are the moderate MRAs again?
Who gets custody of children is always determined on a case by case basis, and it’s usually the parent who is the main caregiver who gets primary custody. I guess MRA’s want to go back to the days when men owned the children? Dolly Madison had to hurry up and marry, after her first husband died, in order to keep her son. MRA’s should be happy they never had it so bad. Nowadays it’s what’s best for the children that is the most important thing in custody battles, and rightly so. My husband’s best friend has primary custody of his kids for that very reason.
Feminists want men and their sons to die?! Really, this guy is nuts.
If he’s talking about rape trials in that bit (which I assume he is, at least in part, because he mentions criminal court), he basically just answered his own whinge there. Rapists (statistically, usually men) are rarely “assfucked” (oh hai homophobia!) by courts because in rape cases victims (statistically, usually women) are seen as suspects. For fuck’s sake, a woman can’t even get her rapist convicted if she’s got a recording of him admitting he raped her. It doesn’t really get much more the opposite of being fucked by courts than that (well, from the accused’s perspective. From the victim’s perspective, it’s pretty fucking terrible, but who cares about that, amirite? It’s just a “he said/she said” thing where she was drunk/had a slutty reputation/wearing a short skirt or low-cut top/a woman of color/out at 3am, so she’s probably the one at fault right?)
I know these guys are clueless, odious cretins, but sometimes following their logic really sickens me. Need to go chew on some ginger gum now.
Except not exactly, because then they’d have to care for the children, and precious few MRAs seem to express any understanding what’s involved in that.
I think these are the desired outcomes:
1) Mothers simply aren’t allowed to divorce men. They have to stay around and raise the children for him in his house.
2) Fathers are granted full custody, and the children raise themselves for free, never impairing their father’s ability to work full time, go on dates, hang out with friends, and spend his money only on himself.
3) Fathers are granted full custody, and expedited Mate Preference in securing a second wife to raise the kids for him.
4) Fathers are never granted custody, which means men (even one who aren’t fathers themselves, by the Coal Miner Principle of gender-shared suffering) get to tell everyone how miserable they are and how unfair everything is, and this gives them the right to be as misogynist and entitled as they want.
Am I the only one who’s laughing?
You know what oppresses men other than feminists? Paragraph breaks!
And punctuation! Punctuation oppresses men!! And grammar!!! AND NOT LETTING THEM TYPE THEIR ENTIRE SCREED IN ALL CAPS!!!! AND NOT LETTING THEM TYPE THEIR ENTIRE SCREED IN BOLD ALL CAPS!!!!! In fact they should be allowed to express themselves entirely with exclamation marks!!!!!! !!!!!!! !!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
1972 was the year the US Congress sent the ERA to the states for ratification. MRAs consider rights a zero sum game, I think, so giving women rights assumes they are people rather than property at great loss of rights to men.
Also the first Atari video game came out!!
Five breaths with a goodly bit of whooshing and gasping.
Presumably, if an MRA had custody of his own kids for a month, with the same resources a woman would have, he’d find a way to say it’s not a fair comparison. Like, either he’d come out and say “well, parenting comes naturally to women, I’m a man, so it’s hard for me” or he’d claim that the kid requires more effort from him than from the mother … erm, somehow.
I got to “these devils” before I started taking tiny breaths again. It’s fun to read this tripe in one long, unceasing monotone. It’s how I hear MRAs in my head.
@Hershele, don’t they usually say it’s actually very little work? I think so, but maybe I’m generalizing based off of Owly.
Yep, pretty much. This is why MRAs go on about how women shouldn’t be allowed to vote and should be legal slaves. It’s why they think women who legally couldn’t vote or hold property or a lot of public and private offices (many states 160 years ago would not allow women to be executors of estates either, so even women who inherited risked it being taken by male relatives, and married women often couldn’t own property) could possibly be oppressing men.
he’s talking abut roe (which was ’73). roe is like anti-feminist pearl harbor.
1972 also gave us digital watches and ABBA. The world just…hasn’t been the same since.
Sharculese — well that at least explains how he’s managing to ignore all the hippies for 5+ years before that, thank you. And of course it was, can’t force her to either stay pregnant or have a dangerous illegal abortion and risk dying? That’s just letting women off too easy! /sarcasm
thebewilderness — maybe it is ERA instead, or in addition to Roe, but that’d require them to know something that isn’t a commonly known fact, and that seems beyond them. Then again, only thing I can figure out for 160 years ago is women wearing pants, so maybe I just shouldn’t try making sense of their arguments at all >.<
There was so much that changed during that period of time that it may not be any one thing that outrages MRAs. The California no fault divorce law in 1970 probably is a source of outrage. Prior to that women had to prove that they were suffering more abuse than the law allowed in order to divorce their abuser.
0_o Than the law ALLOWED? Jesus Jones.
I was ejected of MGTOWforum to suggest that when a women is hitting a wall with knife with hysteria a bitch slap is the appropriate thing to do to protect the women, men and house. This site is managed by young kids that know shit about life and think that are better then older men. Watch my thread there http://www.mgtowforums.com/forums/new-members-introduction/9439-45-year-old-loner-happy.html. The guy nacho vidal cannot make coherent sense and he think he know better. What a joke
I needed 6 breaths, but I have a cold.
Honestly, I’ve had more coherent conversations with the guy in my neighbourhood who will buttonhole you at the bus stop and tell you about all the celebrities he’s related to and how much they dislike him.
Y’know, if ‘buttonhole’ thinks what I think it means (traps you in an awkward, dull social interaction), I don’t blame those celebrity relatives for disliking him.
Hahaha, you’re too terrible for the MGTOWs, welcome to being like the worst person ever.
And of course that’s not appropriate and you damn well know it, you just want to hit women.
The appropriate thing to do is to leave the situation and take the kids with you if you are able, to call the police if you are not able, and if she is imminently about to attack you or a kid, to disarm her.
Sorry those solutions aren’t as hot and sexy as “oh yes, you just have to find the right circumstances, then you can do anything you want to a woman with no consequences.”
—
Anyway you’re a liar. This is what you really said:
Self-defense, uh huh. You were in imminent danger of being disrespected.
(And for fuck’s sake: three-year-olds can slap. Monkeys can slap. That doesn’t prove you have “leadership quality.” It proves you have hands and terrible self-control.)
I am sure you been there Cliff, Thank you for your comments I am a better personnel for it.
cliff, why did you leave off the lead in. that’s the best part.
I CAN ONLY FIX ONE COLOR OF DISHWASHER, CLAIMING OTHERWISE IS A CHALLENGE TO MY AUTHORITY
Oh man. I didn’t give enough of a shit to read the whole thing, but now I’m really regretting that.
Of course you cannot read past the color analogy. if i I Know mechanics its normal that I call this shot. Of course it does not apply to you because you master mechanics such air jet fixing and the art of choosing colour. Sorry I am a man with small brain and I bow in front you.