Manosphere doofuses have a wide assortment of excuses for dismissing this blog without actually having to deal with anything I’ve ever actually said. There’s the old “you’re a misandrist bigot so I don’t have to read anything of yours to know what you think” argument; no evidence of the alleged misandry is ever given. There’s the old “you call yourself Man Boobz and that’s a silly name so I can pretend that nothing you say counts” excuse; actually, I call you guys the “man boobz,” but never mind. Then there’s the old “he’s fat” chestnut. (See the next-to-last pic here.)
My favorite excuse, though, is a little logical fallacy you might call “argumentum ad kittypicturem.” That is, the claim that I can’t be taken seriously because sometimes I post pictures of adorable kitties. I’m not sure why these pictures confuse and infuriate misogynists to the extent that they do, but I’m sort of happy this is the case, because every time I run across it, it gives me an excuse to POST MORE KITTY PICTURES.
This time the kitty picture hater is the lying liar Dalrock, whom we’ve met several times before—most recently when he complained about women taking jobs from men by “playing career woman much the way that Marie Antoinette played peasant and Zoolander’s character played coal miner.”
In a post with the ponderous yet somehow also very silly title “We need worthy adversaries,” Dalrock dismisses my blog as one of the unworthy ones, the only example of said unworthiness being this post I made featuring pictures of several adorable kittens.
Here is my rebuttal:
Yes, that’s a hedgehog. Let’s see how they deal with THAT!
@Nanasha
Yes, MRAs immediately assume you are ugly or fat when you disagree with them. A commenter on The Spearhead said I had grey hairs on my saggy tits, and that I couldn’t find a man, etc. Actually, I’m pretty good looking, not fat, with spectacular breasts, but then they want a picture, and I’m not that fucking stupid. I’m married, too, but that must be a lie since all feminists are lonely cat ladies.
That tiger looks like it just ate a baby. I’m one of those misogynists who don’t like cats. I do have one, but he acts like a dog, so it’s cool.
Jesus man you are huge. Try fasting. It is more effective than exercising and still eating like a whale.
That tiger looks like it just ate a baby.
The fact is, much as you’d like to obscure the FACTS, people who like cats are statistically more likely to be alone. Is it a stereotype if it’s true?
A commenter on The Spearhead said I had grey hairs on my saggy tits, and that I couldn’t find a man, etc
Remember, MRAS totally don`t shame people! That`s what the evil feminists do!
Oops, meant to quote Rage there.
Best rebuttal ever!!!
On another note… wherever did you find the pic of the adorable black and white cutie pie?
Oh God Dalrock…where practically every post of his is summed up as “SLUT SLUTS SLUTTY SLUTS SLUT SHAME WHORES MARRIAGE DOOM SLUTTY SLUTS OH THE HUUUUUMAAAAAANITY!!!!1”
Clearly a bastion of intelligence he is *eyeroll*
These lions (lionesses?) are using a man for… um… cuddles? Climbing? I don’t know, but it is obviously misandry.
oh and you guys have to check out the spearhead article on gender neutral bathrooms…its comedy fucking gold! basically he says “THERE WILL BE LESS TOILETS FOR TEH STRAIGHT MENZ!!!!1”
are toilets not even sacred anymore u gaiz??!?!?!1
@Quackers
I was just over there. Too much homophobic commentary on that post.
misogynist, homophobic, transphobic…I know its pretty shitty (and I didn’t even read many of the comments) Sadly I’ve become so used to it from MRAs that it almost doesn’t even register anymore…all I know is these dudes are ranting about toilets and I’m amused by it. Oh the great oppression they face!
You’re all ignoring the non-mammalian cuties! Clown loaches for example (and yes, they always do that, when they’re happy fish anyways)
I wonder if this will work. I tried posting it to another thread a while back but I was very late: [flickr video=7266481240 secret=ee408fd9f5 w=400 h=300]
(If that doesn’t work, it’s here. Super noisy kittens from my favorite rescue fosterer, kitten-sweetener to two of my three beasts.)
@Sheila
What monsters! 🙂
Dave wrote
“There’s the old “you’re a misandrist bigot so I don’t have to read anything of yours to know what you think” argument; no evidence of the alleged misandry is ever given.”
No shit. Apparently not going out to march in the streets declaring feminism a vile hate cult is misandry.
Regarding that third kitten, if we have the mirror universe duplicate, where’s the original?
@kirby: That was so clueless I had to actually check to see if it was a thing. And yep, there it was, actually written by Dalrock. Who we’ve had offered to us as a ‘reasonable MRA’, I might add XD XD XD
I mean, not with the frequency of Elam (XD!!!) but still!
A recent post of Dalrock’s was titled “The ubiquitous frame of hypergamy”. Babble, babble, babble. Pretend to be smart & intellectualize “Game”. Pathetic. They actually take this seriously. And make the most evil, hateful, disrespectful comments. What drove this “happily married father” (initially I thought that was just a fantasy) to this fixation? How on earth can his wife stand it?
I am sorry to be a bummer on this thread: tonight on MSNBC there was an article that an estranged PA husband killed his two children, their pets and his wife, who he had invited out to dinner that evening and she refused. Some MRAs were making comments, saying it was understandable, the divorce courts, blah, blah, blah, ownership, mostly collapsed.
When I first scanned – it’s unreadable – Dalrock and saw how fixated he is with what he calls “frivolous divorce” (he calls it exiting a marriage with “cash & prizes”)…..I was actually fearful that he seemed like the kind of scary, psychotic person who would commit murder suicide if his wife ever tried to divorce him.
@Newbie
These men do not understand women. And they hate them. You really can’t talk to them. It’s like trying to tell a born again Christian that Jesus doesn’t exist. A waste of breath.
@Nanasha LOL, I actually recorded it but then lowered the pitch to sound more dramatic (my voice is kinda on the high side)
Yeah, I’ve gotten “I don’t even have to read/listen to your opinion because I know you’re an idiot after one minute” nonsense.
And Jesus about that murder. I can UNDERSTAND women who have been raped and victimized being weary of men, even hating men. What I can’t understand is murder. Nothing can justify that. This is what’s really frightening about these guys. They idolize murderers.
@Jessay- Yeah, my voice got deeper when my hormones went to hell and my testosterone levels skyrocketed (gotta love PCOS, eh?). Plus, my deeper voice is my authoritarian voice- it scares the hell out of people doing the wrong thing (I’m a mom, it comes with the territory that you have to be able to use a tone of voice that makes a little kid who is doing something she knows she’s not supposed to do jump at least a foot in the air when you catch them doing it! XD). I also use the Voice to scare zombie vagrants, deter the Creepy Guys who hang outside the construction yard near my apartment, and generally get people to listen to me when I do public speaking (I’m a freak who actually likes doing that).
And yeah, the whole murder thing squicks me the fuck out. In my city of residence, there was recently a murder of a local business owner who was just WALKING DOWN THE FUCKING STREET to an appointment IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, and she got STABBED TO DEATH by this transient guy who had just gotten out of prison and decided to pick her to murder because of “all the women who had wronged” him.
The even more sickening part? He was thinking of killing the two women with their babies in strollers who were walking down the street before the actual murder victim, but decided that it would be too hard to kill two women and two babies and still get away from the scene of the crime.
Who wanna bets that this murdering bastard gets out of prison early because he plays the “mental problems” card and then murders another woman? This is a man so fucked up that his own mother is scared to death of him and who has on multiple occasions threatened his mom’s life if he ever finds out where she lives.
It’s stuff like this that makes me honestly wish that there was an active God up in the sky ready to smite evildoers with lightning the second they even considered an evil act. Seriously. Because the rate at which these horrible individuals get away with MURDER, RAPE, ASSAULT and other HORRIBLE CRIMES is sickening to say the least.
And they HONESTLY keep trying to argue that the THREAT of being POSSIBLY accused of rape is worse than constantly, every single day, be conscious that at some point somewhere someone might decide to randomly rape and/or murder you EXPRESSLY because of your sex, sexuality or gender-expression?
Fuck that shit, man. Fuck that shit right there. The THREAT of possibly having to deal with law enforcement is far less frightening and outright nerve-wracking than the fact than facing the fact that every day, violence based off of gender, sexuality and sex is enacted by individuals with little to no recourse, ability to truly prevent it (beyond maybe locking yourself up in a fortress), or systematic response that supports the victim’s recovery and actually addresses and punishes criminals for it after the fact.
That MSNBC article and good luck if you read the comments, there are definitely MRAs in there, and victim blaming, and an entirely random racist rant, etc (caution is advised)
“Who wanna bets that this murdering bastard gets out of prison early because he plays the “mental problems” card and then murders another woman?”
I’d bet the opposite actually — he’ll get out faster if he doesn’t plead insanity. The decision not to attack the two women with babies probably negates an insanity plea though.
I know CT’s NGRI laws because my best-friend’s interning for a lawyer who works NGRI cases, short version is that if the crime is tied to the mental illness (which it must be for an insanity plea) then the mental illness is assumed tied to criminality — you’re staying in a locked psych ward until the state board declares you sane. In CT simple assault is a 5 year max term, if you plead insanity it’s more like a 20+ year sentence — because of exactly what you’re afraid of, that they’re still crazy enough to kill. It’s a whole lot of fucked up in other words, but there is no “get out of jail free” card because of “mental problems” (not in the US anyways).
And “mental problems”? Can we please not fall down the rabbithole of what mental illnesses are “real enough”? (I realize you’re pissed that he killed someone, but this mentally ill person resents the assumption ze’s ever a danger to anyone besides zirself — zirself, maybe/sometimes; anyone else, no)
@Argenti Aertheri-I would honestly love to be able to have the power to stop people like this before they strike. I can’t stand the fact that so many children are murdered by their own self-centered parents, and that so many control-freaks like this are allowed to murder and still be treated better than the people they killed when placed in custody.
If I had the power, with a thought, these dangerous criminals would just vaporize, just like that. Or maybe turn into cute little kittens or something….but then, they might just become evil kitties……
Nanasha — I’m glad you ended that with “turn into cute little kittens or something” — I usually hear more like how if you’re diagnosed with X “known dangerous mental illness” then “we” should be able to force you to take meds or be locked up before you can become dangerous. It all gets a bit Minority Report pre-crime about things.
The guy you were discussing though had just gotten out of prison, so better screening when leaving prison? I have no issue, it’s the people who end up saying all mentally ill people (with X conditions) must be medicated for the sake of society, when they’re not criminals, just mentally ill. The treating the mentally ill like pre-criminals irks me the same way pre-pregnancy does basically.
(For extra irony, my last attempt at medication made things worse and this round is a laughing joke of “wait this pill does something? no it doesn’t” — medicating the crazies isn’t really so simple in other words)