Hey fellas, do you ever find yourself wondering: why are women so terrible? Well, over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, a fella named osaap has a partial answer: because dudes don’t criticize them enough!
So, fellas, the next time you see a woman, tell her she’s a mean, thoughtless, selfish, lazy little bitch, and that you won’t be giving her a “pussy pass” any longer. You’ll be doing your part for real gender equality. Pay it forward, by putting her down.
Judging from the dozens of upvotes osaap’s post got, and the almost-100% positive response it received from commenters there, it sounds like a lot of Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers are on board with this ingenious new form of activism.
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But David, if they were to come to that conclusion, they would have to evaluate their prejudices against the evidence. And evidence is misandry.
And silky underthings. Don’t forget the silky underthings.
I am such a sucker.
Oh my God. I feel like such a fool. I’ve been going to work and collecting paychecks and using those paychecks to pay my landlord.
Wow have I been doing things the hard way.
And that’s absurd because obviously it’s the other way around!
I think we need to add NWO’s fashion sense to the Book O’ Larnin’.
Fashion
Women never wear loose t-shirts or jeans.
Women’s clothing is all skin-tight and all their shirts are sleeveless and cleavage-baring.
Women wear this clothing because they love attention, not because of dress codes or because they’re attacked for being unsexy and possibly lesbians if they don’t.
All this is terrible for heterosexual men because seeing a sexually attractive person is the worst.
(As I type this, I’m wearing a long-sleeved t-shirt, sweatpants, and a big foofy sweater.
Wait, no, sorry, I meant silky underthings. I mistyped.)
NWO, it certainly would be a good start if you’d try that. They say the first step is admitting you have a problem.
Certainly it is true that MRAs need to work on paying attention to more than simply how people look. That has been made obvious in the things they say. There is another problem though when dealing with abusers, and it is obvious that most MRAs are abusers. They always hold others to a much higher standard of behavior than they hold themselves. There isn’t enough nice, kind, courteous, generous, giving to satisfy an abuser. The standard is: meeting each and every one of their wants needs and desires and having none of your own. Since it is humanly impossible to meet that standard they live in a tragic state of disappointment with everyone on the planet who is not a co sufferer. And they prolly don’t like them much either.
Shorter Owly: TL;DR
Dude, where do you live that all women dress like this all the time? We get pretty hot summers where I am, which means everybody’s not wearing too much of anything, but in winter (and much of fall, and quite a bit of spring)? Puffy, unsexy winter coats everywhere, pretty much always over sweaters, sweatshirts, and nice, thick jeans. Often with boots or any other shoe that will keep out the snow and slush.
Also, you have clearly not seen any men wearing skinny jeans, nor have you heard of the clothing item called the “capri”. What the hell planet do you live on? And why the hell won’t you stay there?
Huh, engaging with nwo’s reading comprehension is a surreal sort of experience. His comments manage to layer the wrongness of his interpretation of what was said, on top of the wrongness of everything he believes about how the world works, which is layered on top of the wrongness of everything he believes about how the world should work.
And I want to correct his understanding of the sentences he misunderstood, but actually what’s the point? Because even if he could understand the correction, he’s still going to be wrong in every other way imaginable. It feels really weird. I’ve never tried to communicate with anyone who was this wrong about everything before. I guess I won’t try.
“Men wear loose fitting T-shirts with sleeves. Women’s shirts are sleeveless, super tight, lotsa cleavage. Pants; mens are again loose fitting, women’s are painted on. Short’s; mens usually go down to the knees or more and are loose fitting. Women’s are way shorter and way tighter. Women’s dresses would make a prostitute from the 60s blush. Make-up, perfume, jewelry, high heels clakity clacking away.”
Wow, I’m no lesbian, but according to NWO I dress more like a man. In fact, most women I know do. High heels? I turn my ankle in flats, so I don’t dare. Pants are loose. No shorts, just maybe capris. I have never shown cleavage, even though I am a double D.I can’t remember the last time I wore a dress. I wore a skirt and sweather to a Christmas party, but the sweater was loose, black and opaque, and the skirt was pleated and came down to my calves. No slit either. Most women I see dress more like me than what he describes. I live in a major metropolitan area, in America, on planet earth. What world do these guys live in?
Shorter NWO: I hate everything and everyone. Plus, I’m spectacularly wrong AT BEST.
I spend like two hours every morning painting on my pants. It’s really awkward when I miss a spot on the back :/
Clearly Owly has as much knowledge about men as he does women or he’d know that tight jeans have been a mainstay of many sub cultures in the US since, what, the 70s or so.
Also,
muscle shirts, sleeveless shirts, wife beaters etc etc. Have we established conclusively that Owly is a living, breathing, sentient human being?
what, shadow, you mean like this?
So, in addition to all the other kinds of wrong NWO is, now he thinks men never wear tight pants?
@Sharculese
I do now
Just a quick question for NWOSlave – You commented on why a man might pay a woman’s rent. But that wasn’t the question.
You were asked, How do women pay their own rent? And the answer is, By working and earning their own living. For example, I am a woman who works for a living and pays her own rent. And I’m over 50 years old, probably old enough to be your mom.
Why do you have to be so dishonest, when there isn’t even a chance of covering up your lies? Is it compulsive?
Big Kitty, I just cry in the street, and rent is paid!
I don’t have a man to pay my rent either. No pension, savings, assets, royalties, or investments. Yet the rent gets paid. Guess how.
On top of all of NWO’s neverending weirdness about women’s clothing, I’m always a bit amused by the fact that, in his head, every individual woman has the power to find clothing that fits her and fulfills every function she needs it to fulfill (e.g. “is appropriate for her job,” “keeps her warm/cool,” “will be considered proper attire for whatever she’s wearing it to”) without any of it EVER appearing sexy to him.
NWO, I can’t sew. I’d like to learn someday, as it seems like a useful skill, but I don’t have the money to afford a sewing machine and lessons at present and, while I’ve tried to learn to sew by hand, I am frankly pretty terrible at it. This means that the clothes I can wear are limited to the clothes I can find in stores within my price range that fit me.
I am not a clothing designer. I am not a business mogul. I do not have a personal stylist. I am a lower-middle-class woman who generally shops at places like Kohl’s and TJ Maxx. Out of every, oh, 20 garments I try on, maybe one of them actually fits me tolerably well. If I even like it, I count myself lucky.
The funny thing is, I’m actually pretty into covering a lot of skin. I prefer comfortable clothes whenever possible. If you gave me the choice between a pair of skinny jeans and a pair of baggy jeans, I’d go for the baggy jeans without a moment’s hesitation.
The last time I went shopping for jeans, I tried on every single distinct pair within two sizes of what I generally wear in two different stores. Every. Single. One. I tried on ones with stupid impractical holes cut in them and ones with ugly pink sequins on the pockets. I tried on light blue ones and dark grey ones and freaking acid-washed ones, because that’s apparently still a thing. I had exactly one criterion: would they fit on my somewhat-unusually-shaped body without either being so tight they hurt or so loose that I would be genuinely afraid of them falling off.
I found one pair. One.
I did not LIKE those jeans. They were kind of an ugly color, and they had a big label on the back, which I dislike. They did not even fit terribly well; I still got that stupid gap in the back of the waistband that drives me crazy, and they fell lower on my torso than I’d really like, so I have to wear them with long shirts if I don’t want to flash my underwear at people.
I bought them anyway, because my last pair of jeans had just gotten a big rip in the crotch and I needed at least one pair of jeans to wear while running errands and such.
I tell you this because, based on everything you have said, I’m pretty sure you would be convinced that the reason I bought these jeans was because I wanted to wear them at men and “flaunt” the shape of my body. You would believe, strongly, that I somehow could have gotten jeans in any shape I wanted, and the only reason these jeans are relatively snug around my bottom is that I really, really wanted them to be, solely for the supposed effect that might have on men looking at me.
I know you won’t listen to me when I tell you that I just wanted some goddamn reasonably comfortable, practical pants I could wear to places like Wal-Mart, and those were the pair that were available. I know you will continue to shriek about evil slutty women in their evil slutty pants. I just want you to answer me one simple question:
Where, exactly, do you imagine I will find these perfectly customizable, well-fitting, affordable pants that will go around my hourglass-shaped body and make it look un-hourglassy? Because I fucking well want to shop there.
Maybe this will scare NWO off for a while
I can safely say that I have never seen an animal in heat wearing jewelry or clakity high heels. Not even this really slutty cat my former roommates owned.
I assume that some women are. Certainly not all women. Because, you know, people* vary in personality and behavior. I’ve known women (and men!) who were wonderful people, and I’ve known women (and men!) who were horrible, and I’ve known lots and lots of men and women who were somewhere in the middle.
* This category includes women.
Am I moving too fast for you here, Owly? I can always backtrack.
@karalora
I think you`re going to have to explain this concept of women possessing individuality to NWO in much greater detail.