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Redditor: Do Your Bit for Gender Equality by Telling Women They’re Terrible

Hey fellas, do you ever find yourself wondering: why are women so terrible? Well, over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, a fella named osaap has a partial answer: because dudes don’t criticize them enough!

So, fellas, the next time you see a woman, tell her she’s a mean, thoughtless, selfish, lazy little bitch, and that you won’t be giving her a “pussy pass” any longer. You’ll be doing your part for real gender equality. Pay it forward, by putting her down.

Judging from the dozens of upvotes osaap’s post got, and the almost-100% positive response it received from commenters there, it sounds like a lot of Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers are on board with this ingenious new form of activism.

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Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Huh. I guess the real explanation couldn’t possibly be that I judge people by what they think and say and do, regardless of gender, and that Andie is someone with terrible ideas who was acting like an asshole in a somewhat comical manner?

But David, if they were to come to that conclusion, they would have to evaluate their prejudices against the evidence. And evidence is misandry.

speedlines
speedlines
8 years ago

Look at how women dress as oppossed to men. Men wear loose fitting T-shirts with sleeves. Women’s shirts are sleeveless, super tight, lotsa cleavage. Pants; mens are again loose fitting, women’s are painted on. Short’s; mens usually go down to the knees or more and are loose fitting. Women’s are way shorter and way tighter. Women’s dresses would make a prostitute from the 60s blush. Make-up, perfume, jewelry, high heels clakity clacking away. Look at me! Look at me!

And silky underthings. Don’t forget the silky underthings.

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

What? You think when a man pays for a womans rent it’s cause they’re buddies? How often do ya think men pay for other men’s rent?

I am such a sucker.

Oh my God. I feel like such a fool. I’ve been going to work and collecting paychecks and using those paychecks to pay my landlord.

Wow have I been doing things the hard way.

Man = bad. Woman = perfect.

And that’s absurd because obviously it’s the other way around!

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

I think we need to add NWO’s fashion sense to the Book O’ Larnin’.

Fashion
Women never wear loose t-shirts or jeans.

Women’s clothing is all skin-tight and all their shirts are sleeveless and cleavage-baring.

Women wear this clothing because they love attention, not because of dress codes or because they’re attacked for being unsexy and possibly lesbians if they don’t.

All this is terrible for heterosexual men because seeing a sexually attractive person is the worst.

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

(As I type this, I’m wearing a long-sleeved t-shirt, sweatpants, and a big foofy sweater.

Wait, no, sorry, I meant silky underthings. I mistyped.)

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

And try to keep their dumbass opinions to themselves, as well as being less shitty and obnoxious.

NWO, it certainly would be a good start if you’d try that. They say the first step is admitting you have a problem.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
8 years ago

Certainly it is true that MRAs need to work on paying attention to more than simply how people look. That has been made obvious in the things they say. There is another problem though when dealing with abusers, and it is obvious that most MRAs are abusers. They always hold others to a much higher standard of behavior than they hold themselves. There isn’t enough nice, kind, courteous, generous, giving to satisfy an abuser. The standard is: meeting each and every one of their wants needs and desires and having none of your own. Since it is humanly impossible to meet that standard they live in a tragic state of disappointment with everyone on the planet who is not a co sufferer. And they prolly don’t like them much either.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Shorter Owly: TL;DR

Jayem Griffin
8 years ago

Men wear loose fitting T-shirts with sleeves. Women’s shirts are sleeveless, super tight, lotsa cleavage. Pants; mens are again loose fitting, women’s are painted on. Short’s; mens usually go down to the knees or more and are loose fitting. Women’s are way shorter and way tighter. Women’s dresses would make a prostitute from the 60s blush. Make-up, perfume, jewelry, high heels clakity clacking away.

Dude, where do you live that all women dress like this all the time? We get pretty hot summers where I am, which means everybody’s not wearing too much of anything, but in winter (and much of fall, and quite a bit of spring)? Puffy, unsexy winter coats everywhere, pretty much always over sweaters, sweatshirts, and nice, thick jeans. Often with boots or any other shoe that will keep out the snow and slush.

Also, you have clearly not seen any men wearing skinny jeans, nor have you heard of the clothing item called the “capri”. What the hell planet do you live on? And why the hell won’t you stay there?

AlexB
AlexB
8 years ago

Huh, engaging with nwo’s reading comprehension is a surreal sort of experience. His comments manage to layer the wrongness of his interpretation of what was said, on top of the wrongness of everything he believes about how the world works, which is layered on top of the wrongness of everything he believes about how the world should work.

And I want to correct his understanding of the sentences he misunderstood, but actually what’s the point? Because even if he could understand the correction, he’s still going to be wrong in every other way imaginable. It feels really weird. I’ve never tried to communicate with anyone who was this wrong about everything before. I guess I won’t try.

scarlettpipistrelle
8 years ago

“Men wear loose fitting T-shirts with sleeves. Women’s shirts are sleeveless, super tight, lotsa cleavage. Pants; mens are again loose fitting, women’s are painted on. Short’s; mens usually go down to the knees or more and are loose fitting. Women’s are way shorter and way tighter. Women’s dresses would make a prostitute from the 60s blush. Make-up, perfume, jewelry, high heels clakity clacking away.”

Wow, I’m no lesbian, but according to NWO I dress more like a man. In fact, most women I know do. High heels? I turn my ankle in flats, so I don’t dare. Pants are loose. No shorts, just maybe capris. I have never shown cleavage, even though I am a double D.I can’t remember the last time I wore a dress. I wore a skirt and sweather to a Christmas party, but the sweater was loose, black and opaque, and the skirt was pleated and came down to my calves. No slit either. Most women I see dress more like me than what he describes. I live in a major metropolitan area, in America, on planet earth. What world do these guys live in?

red_locker
8 years ago

Shorter NWO: I hate everything and everyone. Plus, I’m spectacularly wrong AT BEST.

katz
8 years ago

I spend like two hours every morning painting on my pants. It’s really awkward when I miss a spot on the back :/

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

Clearly Owly has as much knowledge about men as he does women or he’d know that tight jeans have been a mainstay of many sub cultures in the US since, what, the 70s or so.

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

Also,

Men wear loose fitting T-shirts with sleeves

muscle shirts, sleeveless shirts, wife beaters etc etc. Have we established conclusively that Owly is a living, breathing, sentient human being?

Sharculese
8 years ago

what, shadow, you mean like this?

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

So, in addition to all the other kinds of wrong NWO is, now he thinks men never wear tight pants?

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

@Sharculese

I do now

BigKitty
BigKitty
8 years ago

Just a quick question for NWOSlave – You commented on why a man might pay a woman’s rent. But that wasn’t the question.

You were asked, How do women pay their own rent? And the answer is, By working and earning their own living. For example, I am a woman who works for a living and pays her own rent. And I’m over 50 years old, probably old enough to be your mom.

Why do you have to be so dishonest, when there isn’t even a chance of covering up your lies? Is it compulsive?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Big Kitty, I just cry in the street, and rent is paid!

scarlettpipistrelle
8 years ago

I don’t have a man to pay my rent either. No pension, savings, assets, royalties, or investments. Yet the rent gets paid. Guess how.

Polliwog
Polliwog
8 years ago

On top of all of NWO’s neverending weirdness about women’s clothing, I’m always a bit amused by the fact that, in his head, every individual woman has the power to find clothing that fits her and fulfills every function she needs it to fulfill (e.g. “is appropriate for her job,” “keeps her warm/cool,” “will be considered proper attire for whatever she’s wearing it to”) without any of it EVER appearing sexy to him.

NWO, I can’t sew. I’d like to learn someday, as it seems like a useful skill, but I don’t have the money to afford a sewing machine and lessons at present and, while I’ve tried to learn to sew by hand, I am frankly pretty terrible at it. This means that the clothes I can wear are limited to the clothes I can find in stores within my price range that fit me.

I am not a clothing designer. I am not a business mogul. I do not have a personal stylist. I am a lower-middle-class woman who generally shops at places like Kohl’s and TJ Maxx. Out of every, oh, 20 garments I try on, maybe one of them actually fits me tolerably well. If I even like it, I count myself lucky.

The funny thing is, I’m actually pretty into covering a lot of skin. I prefer comfortable clothes whenever possible. If you gave me the choice between a pair of skinny jeans and a pair of baggy jeans, I’d go for the baggy jeans without a moment’s hesitation.

The last time I went shopping for jeans, I tried on every single distinct pair within two sizes of what I generally wear in two different stores. Every. Single. One. I tried on ones with stupid impractical holes cut in them and ones with ugly pink sequins on the pockets. I tried on light blue ones and dark grey ones and freaking acid-washed ones, because that’s apparently still a thing. I had exactly one criterion: would they fit on my somewhat-unusually-shaped body without either being so tight they hurt or so loose that I would be genuinely afraid of them falling off.

I found one pair. One.

I did not LIKE those jeans. They were kind of an ugly color, and they had a big label on the back, which I dislike. They did not even fit terribly well; I still got that stupid gap in the back of the waistband that drives me crazy, and they fell lower on my torso than I’d really like, so I have to wear them with long shirts if I don’t want to flash my underwear at people.

I bought them anyway, because my last pair of jeans had just gotten a big rip in the crotch and I needed at least one pair of jeans to wear while running errands and such.

I tell you this because, based on everything you have said, I’m pretty sure you would be convinced that the reason I bought these jeans was because I wanted to wear them at men and “flaunt” the shape of my body. You would believe, strongly, that I somehow could have gotten jeans in any shape I wanted, and the only reason these jeans are relatively snug around my bottom is that I really, really wanted them to be, solely for the supposed effect that might have on men looking at me.

I know you won’t listen to me when I tell you that I just wanted some goddamn reasonably comfortable, practical pants I could wear to places like Wal-Mart, and those were the pair that were available. I know you will continue to shriek about evil slutty women in their evil slutty pants. I just want you to answer me one simple question:

Where, exactly, do you imagine I will find these perfectly customizable, well-fitting, affordable pants that will go around my hourglass-shaped body and make it look un-hourglassy? Because I fucking well want to shop there.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

Maybe this will scare NWO off for a while

karalora
8 years ago

Wouldn’t the solution be to teach women/girls not to act like animals in heat.

I can safely say that I have never seen an animal in heat wearing jewelry or clakity high heels. Not even this really slutty cat my former roommates owned.

In order to find out wouldn’t women need to be all those fine qualities? Or is it assumed they already are? Why would you doubt it? How have you already reached that conclusion?

I assume that some women are. Certainly not all women. Because, you know, people* vary in personality and behavior. I’ve known women (and men!) who were wonderful people, and I’ve known women (and men!) who were horrible, and I’ve known lots and lots of men and women who were somewhere in the middle.

* This category includes women.

Am I moving too fast for you here, Owly? I can always backtrack.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

@karalora

I think you`re going to have to explain this concept of women possessing individuality to NWO in much greater detail.

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Yes I will be so happy when they actually start designing clothing for women and not pixies.
That gap at the back of the jeans happens to me too. I take a two inch long piece of elastic, stretch it on the back of the waist band and sew it on. It gathers the waistband in a bit. Otherwise, you have to take the waistband off and sew in a dart and reattach the waistband.

Polliwog
Polliwog
8 years ago

Yes I will be so happy when they actually start designing clothing for women and not pixies.
That gap at the back of the jeans happens to me too. I take a two inch long piece of elastic, stretch it on the back of the waist band and sew it on. It gathers the waistband in a bit. Otherwise, you have to take the waistband off and sew in a dart and reattach the waistband.

Clever! My pathetic sewing skills might even be up to that, so I’ll have to try that sometime. 🙂

(Also, honestly, I think even pixies would generally be screwed over by most clothing design, because the way the fashion industry interprets “person-shaped” is often completely bizarre. I have joked before that I believe women’s clothing must be manufactured in Plato’s cave.)

karalora
8 years ago

@Crumbelievable

To be fair, I don’t think he’s really aware that men possess individuality either.

@pillowinhell

I shall have to try that waistband trick!

ragefromthebasement
8 years ago

@NWO

I wear high heels because RooshV and Roussy told me to. Now you say I shouldn’t wear them? Which misogynist am I supposed to obey?

pillowinhell
8 years ago

THAT’S. IT!!

*pillowinhell stes off for Platos cave to draw better patterns for womens clothing on the cave walls*

Hey with luck, it will be as beautiful as the ancient bull paintings!!

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

I wear high heels because RooshV and Roussy told me to. Now you say I shouldn’t wear them? Which misogynist am I supposed to obey?

A few weeks ago, NWO told us that women should wear whatever it is that men tell them to. Of course he never provides a solution to the problem of exactly which men those women should listen to (I`m guessing it`s NWO though)

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

@katz

What a slut!

I bet she gets a Pussy Pass on all sorts of bad behavior—scratching people, pooping in places that aren’t the toilet, throwing up on other people’s carpets and just walking away as if it’s no big deal!

I bet she can even get high off of “completely legal” “marijuana related product” and not even go to jail like all MEN would.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Ooh… I got a callout at Anti-manboobz. I am a religious fundamentalist (along with Ruttee, we, according to M. Varpole, see eye to eye on everything).

Magpie
Magpie
8 years ago

@ katz – that kitty is looking for a tom kitty wearing tight pants!

Shaenon
8 years ago

Dude, where do you live that all women dress like this all the time?

NWO basically lives in the awesomest place on earth.

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

Am I the only who found himself suddenly humming Tom Jones after seeing Katz’ picture?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

I feel like tackling NWO’s fractal wrongness, I’m picking the bit addressed to Pecunium as NWO’s almost got a bit of prose going with it, thus making the “as opposed to…” easy to fix.

“never have sex with anyone but, “The Right Man”
As oppossed to fuck lotsa men and leave them?

No, as in have sex as you like, regardless whether it’s a serious thing, or whether he leaves you; which may include leaving lots of men, or women, or being left by lots of men, or women, or some combination thereof.
“don’t tease men by being hot in public”
As oppossed to being loyal and hot for one man?

No, as in never going out in public because you might be seen as teasing men; which may apply to women “loyal and hot for one man” or women with many men, or no men!
“take care of the kids, the house”
As oppossed to not doing either?

No, as in doing one, or both, with help from the father of the kids; which is not when the MRM wants.
“be self-supporting”
As oppossed to using sex/gender to skate thru life?

No, as in admitting that “no man is an island”; which is the opposite of “self-supporting” and has nothing to do with gender.
“be able to maintain a decent conversation”
As oppossed to yesterdays thread of saying fuckity, fuck, fuck, fuck?

No, as in discussing things that may or may not be being discussed just to please a man; which may fucking involve liberal fucking use of the fucking word fuck, got a fucking problem?
“never divorce”
As oppossed to getting divorced if you’re bored? Women #1 excuse.

No, as in being able to divorce abusive partners, partners who’ve deserted the marriage; which both apply to men and women (and others!) and do actually happen.
“never complain”
As oppossed to always bitching and being a drama queen?

No, as in complain instead of festering in hatred; which is really much healthier and something we all wish you’d learn how to do NWO.

What are men thinking?
As opposed to what are people thinking about you?

Pecunium, my apologizes if I missed your original points, but I really want to tear that entire post apart and am restraining myself to the prose form (that was kind of harder than I expected actually, he’s so wrong). And apologizes to everyone for bending “which” (and the rest of English) to make that work.

Nanasha
Nanasha
8 years ago

How amazing that these men don’t find it insulting AT ALL that they expect all women everywhere to CONTROL ALL MEN’S BEHAVIOR by acting in ways specifically laid out by said men through, I dunno, magical ESP!

I mean, because obviously it’s TOTALLY NOT SEXIST for MRAs to go on about how all men are controlled by their cocks and can’t seem to spend one second making a rational or intelligent decision without letting “Mr. Hyde” out of his pants because an attractive woman walked by. *rolls eyes sarcastically*

Except that this is BULLSHIT. Men, women, everyone- all of us must take responsibility for OUR OWN BEHAVIOR. When you were 5 and you put glue in Cindy Butkis’s pigtails, you tried to blame the closet monster, but no one believed your shit and you had to fess up. You’re not 5 years old anymore- you’re a FUCKING ADULT. Therefore, take responsibility for your actions- don’t go around raping people, don’t go around assaulting people or stalking/harassing them and if you DO engage in these heinous and terrible crimes, for Pete’s sake, STOP making half-assed “well I wasn’t in control of myself” excuses for your behavior.

Seriously. Her skirt didn’t make you do it. YOU made you do it.

I find it kind of horrifying that most of us feminists think far better of men and expect much more human and intelligent behavior than the bulk of the MRAs who go on about how they support men’s rights. Yeah. They only support [certain, white, heterosexual, monotheistic, upper-middle class] men’s rights to do whatever the fuck they want without repercussions.

Nanasha
Nanasha
8 years ago

Additionally, “rights” does not mean “rights to do whatever the fuck you want while everyone else has to abide by the rules and/or be victimized by you without any recourse.”

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

I find it kind of horrifying that most of us feminists think far better of men and expect much more human and intelligent behavior than the bulk of the MRAs who go on about how they support men’s rights.

Yeah, I get a kick out of that too.

They complain about stereotypes of men as thuggish and violent, and then say that they`ll prove people wrong by…by making thuggish and violent threats.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

One of the best (worst) examples came from the ever-awful Girlwriteswhat, who compared dressing sluttily to covering yourself in honey and taunting hungry bears. Thanks for reducing men to ravenous animals, GWW.

Pecunium
8 years ago

NWO: That litany of yours, of course, ignored the context. You hold women to impossible standards, while holding men to none.

No men, ever, walk around in tight sleeveless shirts? Right… to the park in the summer. Tight muscle shirts, and guys playing B-ball with no shirts.

No guy ever says fuck, or cunt, or whore: they are all paragons of clean language.

Women are supposed to be 1: self-supporting, and 2: Stay at home moms. If they are divorced (for whatever reason) they are to rear the kids; without help, and let the father have a full say in every aspect of their lives.

And so on.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Polliwog: (Also, honestly, I think even pixies would generally be screwed over by most clothing design, because the way the fashion industry interprets “person-shaped” is often completely bizarre. I have joked before that I believe women’s clothing must be manufactured in Plato’s cave.)

I have the same problem. I am not shaped like the “average” man. I am small waisted, average height, and possessed of just a bit less than average arms; while being long in the torso.

Nothing quite fits. The worst of it is the jeans. I wear 501s, because they shrink, and I can buy the smallest size they make. I recently discovered Blackhawk tactical pants, which have both an elasticised waistband AND a silicone strip, which keeps my shirts in.

They aren’t cheap, but they wear well and LA Police Gear had them on sale, so I could afford to buy several pair.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Argenti: Pecunium, my apologizes if I missed your original points, but I really want to tear that entire post apart and am restraining myself to the prose form (that was kind of harder than I expected actually, he’s so wrong).

No worries, you seem to get my meaning pretty well.

Dvärghundspossen
8 years ago

I have a pretty androgynous body shape. I can easily find jeans that fit (no, really!), so apparently my lower body approaches some kind of ideal female shape. My upper body however, does not. I have pretty wide shoulders, pretty muscular arms, and no boobs to speak of. Therefore I usually combine jeans with men’s shirts, which fit me well. Do I get a medal for not wearing slutty female upper body clothing?

Magpie
Magpie
8 years ago

For Dvärghundspossen 🙂

Kakanian
Kakanian
8 years ago

>Wouldn’t the solution be to teach women/girls not to act like animals in heat.

You heard it, girls, stop maiming the men who fail to sexually please you (like cats), stop biting the men whom you don’t want to have sex with (like dogs) and stop eating the men who just had sex with you (like some insects).

Seriously, every woman complaining that she does not get enough love should simply stop biting off men’s heads in mid-coitus.

I am one hundred percent serious.

darksidecat
8 years ago

The tight “skinny jeans” were quite the thing with the hipsters fairly recently, or so I had observed. Hipster slut boys.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I’m wondering where NWO lives that he’s managed not to see any men in tight pants, or anything sleeveless.

(In terms of the idea that women never wear anything that isn’t short, sleeveless, and cleavage-baring, all at the same time, I assume that’s just his feverish imagination at work as usual.)