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You Gotta Keep ‘Em Separated

So I wasn’t planning on commenting on this mysterious little Men’s Rights protest that managed to draw a meager seven protestors, with only two signs amongst them, one of them impossible to read at a distance. I mean, despite the poor turnout, they’re actually making an effort to do something in the real world, right? And that’s something, even if the person posting this picture didn’t bother to tell us when this happened or who organized it or even what the protest was about. (Circumcision? Or Men’s Rights generally?) But, hey, baby steps, right?

But then I saw this little exchange in the Men’s Rights subreddit about it:

 

 

Feminists: Everything everywhere is always their fault.

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jumbofish
9 years ago

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHA

I’m gonna die early from all this laughing. XD

Bostonian
9 years ago

None of these people have cell phones? Private emails? Could post a general meeting location?

Shadow
9 years ago

Are we sure the MRM isn’t just a vast, dedicated group of performance artists?

Snowy
Snowy
9 years ago

What is going on with the dinosaur?

Need to know
9 years ago

How can you laugh about this? If their mommies had arranged their protest-playdate like they were supposed to it would have been super-gigantic-huge! They could have all met up by the sandbox, had some art time to make signs then marched all the way to the swing set before having juice boxes and cookies.

Mean old feminist conspiracy always spoils everything.

Sharculese
9 years ago

are we certain notc isnt joking? that cant possibly not be a joke.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Are we sure NotC wasn’t trolling? Having a hard time processing the idea that that comment could have been serious.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Dammit, sharculese, you type faster than me.

Fembot
Fembot
9 years ago

“What is going on with the dinosaur?”

Did they hunt the dinosaur for the wimminz one hundred million years ago?

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

Yeah, I legitimately think NotC is pulling their legs… XD XD XD

But no, please, keep thinking we focus all our energy on you. That’s totally the high point of my day, yepperoni XD

lauralot89
9 years ago

lolwhut

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

HAHAHAHA. Sure, we’re what’s keeping them disconnected. It’s not the fact that that they could fuck up a one car parade, nope, not that at all.

Sharculese
9 years ago

nevermind, i just googled ‘notc mens rights’ and he’s been featured here before:

http://manboobz.com/2012/04/03/mens-rights-redditors-defend-a-guy-who-says-he-punched-his-sperm-stealing-girlfriend/

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
9 years ago

hahaha

Dear MRM,

The femigynoconspiracy is just our way of saying “We Care”

Sincerely,

The Mgt.

Also, I don’t think NotC being an actual r/mr denizen precludes zir being sarcastic here.

scarlettpipistrelle
9 years ago

Oh THAT guy? The sperm-thief puncher story-teller? Wow.

abeille
9 years ago

@scarlettpipistrelle,
he responds to the sperm-thief puncher story-teller, telling him that he “got a freebie” because sperm-thief-girlfriend threatened him.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
9 years ago

That sperm-jacking reddit thread is something else, did they seriously suggest he plead temporary insanity? That’s spectacularly bad advice even by MRA standards, take your <5 years for simple assault and make it "until you're not insane anymore" level bad advice. I am actually awestruck by the stupid, that's almost impressive.

On-topic — one guy missed the memo so it must be a conspiracy? I'll remember that excuse the next time I oversleep…

valerienorth
valerienorth
9 years ago

Yeah, Pal, the government is stopping you from facebooking each other. Idiots.
Oh, and he’s got nothing to do, and he’s some how soooo oppressed with all the work that females are making him do.

cloudiah
9 years ago

Seriously? I mean activists in South Africa* under an overtly oppressive regime managed to figure out ways to organize to END FUCKING APARTHEID, but the “Fem Lobby” keeps them from telling Falsfield and others on r/mr about their little event until after it’s over? The best thing about MRAs is that they cannot organize their way out of a wet paper bag.

*As just one example out of many.

Sharculese
9 years ago

that picture really is fucking amazing

debbaasseerr
9 years ago

Yep – evidence against the conspiracy is proof of the conspiracy. You think the lack of evidence is just because there isn’t any? They got it all piled up in area 51 where the secret alien feminist mind control spaceships are at, man.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

So civil rights protestors in the 60”s managed to show up in the thousands despite the constant threat of violence from white supremacists and barrage of high-pressured hoses and attack dogs from racist police forces, but now organizing a casual get-together through Reddit is too hard? Good to know.

Sharculese
9 years ago

is notc supposed to be a pun on ‘nazi’ because that is… super stupid

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Didn’t you know? Zuckerberg is a part of the secret feminist conspiracy – if you try to send MRA related messages via Facebook he has them deleted.

I’ve said too much.

pangea
9 years ago

Hey, at least they’re doing some actual activism, and anti-circumcision is a respectable cause. I don’t see a problem here.

cloudiah
9 years ago

Read Red Summer by Cameron McWhirter for some USian context on people organizing in dangerous contexts. (1919 was called “red summer” because it was the year that the highest number of incidents of racial violence against African Americans occurred. They did not take it passively, but organized at great risk against lynchings and race riots.)

Look also at how people have organized to fight repressive militarized regimes in S. America, Europe, etc. Talk about courage!

Fucking MRAs have no idea. Pisses me off.

cloudiah
9 years ago

@pangea Absolutely, doing things is good, better than just complaining on the internet. (In support of what cause is important also, though.)

But I think the mockery here is mostly about how they think there’s some oppression going on against them, and so a number of us have been providing examples of what real oppression looks like (and how people have fought it with more courage than MRAs have ever demonstrated).

Paul Elam =/= Nelson Mandela, for example. Or Gandhi, as much as they like to appropriate his words.

Sharculese
9 years ago

they really aren’t tho. seven people standing around with two incomprehensible signs is about as lazy as activism gets. if it were part of a broader campaign to put anti-circumcision (anti-foreskin snipping, mind you, they don’t care about girls) in the public eye and get local measures considered, that would be one thing, but they aren’t, they’re just posting on the internet and organizing half-assed meet-ups they forget to tell anyone about, and then they blame everyone else when they’re not treated seriously.

no, they don’t get a cookie for trying.

speedlines
speedlines
9 years ago

Tomala
9 years ago

lmao… I wonder what they think of the scented candles for men?

ragefromthebasement
9 years ago

This is OT, but anyone interested in some crazy MRA posts, including the one about removing infant girls’ voice boxes, check this out. Sorry if you’ve seen it before, but maybe some haven’t.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/spearhead-forum-misandry.php?page=8

Nanasha
Nanasha
9 years ago

There’s this website called “Meetup” where you can create groups and events for those groups. I’m a brony so I subscribe to a brony group and get all kinds of emailed events right to my inbox. Plus there’s also this website named “Facebook” where you can create “groups” in which you can also create events for said groups.

There is really no reason why MRAs can’t get organized other than the fact that they either do NOT want to get organized, or they’re so fragmented full of “in-DUH-vidualz” that they just can’t agree on any one person to listen to about anything.

*shrug*

Or maybe they’re just idiots.

Nanasha
Nanasha
9 years ago

PS: Pretty much every feminist I’ve ever read or spoken with is outspoken against male genital mutilation AS WELL AS female genital mutilation.

Feminism has always been about bodily integrity and personal choice in life as well as breaking down illogical gender and sexual roles in society- it would be incredibly hypocritical to ignore the injustice of male circumcision and violation of male infants’ bodily integrity.

Jessay (@jessay)
9 years ago

Yay Father Ted!

Wow, the fact that people organized massive protests decades before the internet whereas these guys who have specific internet forums dedicated to their cause can’t get even a dozen dudes to stand outside and rage says a lot about just how huge of a failure their movement is and how much they’re really just looking for an excuse to bitch about women and not to actually do anything.

Sharculese
9 years ago

that picture really is fucking amazing

like if someone ever tells me they need a picture of the internet its all ready to go

Sharculese
9 years ago

@nanasha

idk like occasionally i wonder how it would be different if my pipe wasnt cut but on the whole it is pretty much a thing i do not care at all about

ragefromthebasement
9 years ago

@Sharculese

My husband and I are both anti circumcision. I think less people are doing it, and gradually it will fall out of practice. But people should be educated, so if MRAs want to do that, I’m fine with it. But knowing them, they’ll link circumcision to a feminist plot and make the anti circumcision movement look stupid.

Kakanian
Kakanian
9 years ago

I have to assume that they imagine that “the Feminist” is sort of brain-worm in the tap water that makes them forget about important stuff like that.

starterlifesydney
starterlifesydney
9 years ago

The drunk, geriatric priest from Father Ted reminds me of Uncle Elmer (he just needs to mention his FOREIGN BRIDE every 2nd sentence).

starterlifesydney
starterlifesydney
9 years ago
Christine Noble
9 years ago

For the life of me I don’t know why, but I look at that picture of those guys and the last line of the refrain from “Billy Jean” plays in my head.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

One commenter writes:

This is really quite telling. It seems like the biggest presence we have is online; we are but a shadow in the real world.

You don’t say…

Michael Lindsay
9 years ago

The crazy old Gandalf figure certainly completes the picture!

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
9 years ago

I dunno… I was against the MRM, but according to that picture, the movement consists of a wizard and his six companions. I can’t help wondering if there’s a treasure map on the other side of that sign.

Maybe, this is the problem – they’re just confused fantasy characters who don’t understand the difference between a ‘civil rights movement’ and an ‘expedition to the Barrier Peaks’. Instead of mocking them, we should chip in and get them some sort of magic wardrobe, and send them all head off to Narnia.

Or maybe Gor. I guess they’d prefer Gor.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
9 years ago

D’oh! Ninja’d.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
9 years ago

Could be that they had the organisation, but… and this is controversial… lacked the numbers to get a decent protest going. Maybe there just aren’t enough of them in that area to get more than seven people who can be arsed to make an effort.

Ruby Hypatia
Ruby Hypatia
9 years ago

Seven protestors? They’ve got a ways to go before they get their million man march.

BTW, I too am against circumcision. I won’t be surprised if they do try to link circumcision to feminism.

AbsintheDexterous
9 years ago

Don’t you realize? The proof is that there is no proof. That’s just how crafty the Government and Feminist Lobby is! They lurk everywhere. They might even be here right now!

Sometime I wonder about the Poor Put-Upon White Male, Conspiracy Theory Division. I mean, I have enough to do in my day that I don’t sit around and think these things up. But I suppose if I was, say, a milk machine technician, I might have enough time to contemplate conspiracies. Instead, I have to think about which street I should cry in so that I can get the best deals. I mean, couponing is better, but there’s no glory or thrill in cutting up and sorting little squares of paper.

Or maybe Gor. I guess they’d prefer Gor.

Somehow Sir Rugglesby, I think you’re right. *shudders*

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
9 years ago

There is really no reason why MRAs can’t get organized other than the fact that they either do NOT want to get organized, or they’re so fragmented full of “in-DUH-vidualz” that they just can’t agree on any one person to listen to about anything.

Of course not. Don’t you realize that managing one’s calendar is women’s work? Obviously, if their wives, girlfriends, mothers, daughters, sisters, and/or female co-workers didn’t a) notify them of the upcoming event, b) put it in their calendars, c) remind them the night before, d) make sure their clothes were clean and ready and that their signs and packed lunches/lunch money were all prepared, and e) wake them up on time (and remind them again), then IT’S A FEMALE CONSPIRACY!!!!

/sarcasm

(The huge core of truth in this is why I didn’t make it too far up the secretarial career ladder.)