Men’s Rights Activists and manosphere misogynists love to complain that I “cherry pick” quotes in an attempt to make them look bad. Which makes it especially ironic that all too often when I call them out on some particular bit of bullshit, they more or less double down on that bullshit, reiterating and in many cases amplifying the terrible things they originally said.
Several days ago, I wrote about a Spearhead post from W.F. Price with the priceless title “After 25, Women Are Just Wasting Time.” It was appalling even by Spearhead standards. Price used the untimely death of a talented young writer named Marina Keegan as an opportunity to rehash the belief, widely held in the manosphere, that women over the age of 25 who haven’t managed to snag themselves a “good husband” are “just wasting time,” growing older and uglier and less appealing to men. (Evidently, women’s appeal to men is the only thing that really matters about them.)
Price’s article inspired numerous comments from Spearheaders that were even more grotesquely misogynistic and cruel than his own post; Price at least pretended to care about the dead girl, even though his post was a crass and opportunistic insult to her memory.
And it inspired one regular Man Boobz commenter, a 26-year-old woman, to wade into the muck that is the Spearhead’s comments section to point out that Price’s grand narrative of female decline after age 25 has no relation whatsoever to her own life story:
I’m 26 years old. 27 terrifyingly soon. I am nothing like the person I was when I graduated college.
After originally getting a film degree, I’ve just started nursing school.
I’m living on the other side of the country and loving the different culture here.
I’m dating a wonderful guy who mysteriously didn’t dump me on my 25th birthday.
I’m doing difficult, not always fun, but ultimately socially useful work, work I couldn’t imagine myself doing when I graduated college.Since I graduated college, I’ve read more books, worked on more movies, learned more skills, lifted more weight, traveled more places, marched in more protests, gotten published more times, saved more lives than I thought I ever would.
And I’m still only 26.
You think I’m going to stop protesting and writing and working the wild Saturday midnight shift in the ER before I’m 30? Before I’m 60?
Or do you think it doesn’t matter because I might not be as fuckable then?
Well then fuck you. I’m 26 and I got miles to go.
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(Oh, and I’m way better at sex now. Guys who thought I hit my “expiration date” just around the time I was first learning what a Kegel was, you are missing out.)
The Spearheaders responded, predictably enough, with downvotes and insults and a lot of mainsplainy comments suggesting that she’s regret it forever if she doesn’t get married ASAP and start popping out children.
The strangest comment of the bunch came from a Spearhead “Shieldmaiden” (that’s what they call female commenters on The Spearhead, for reals) by the name of Andie, who launched into a barely coherent tirade that somehow revolved around, er, SCENTED CANDLES!
Price, after seeing Andie’s rant mocked by the commenters here, decided to feature it today as the Spearhead “Comment of the Week.” So without further ado, here is what Price considers to be the Spearhead community at its best:
@26 year old woman
Let’s see how you feel when you’re 29 and the end of everything possible is right at your doorstep. Hell, lots of women are infertile at 26. Done. You won’t do everything. You won’t be a mother.
And if that doesn’t bother you, darlin’, you ain’t a woman.
And if your plans are to actually BE a mother (as in do the damn work), you are already in very deep water.
Your resume will never put his chubby little arms around you and tell you he loves you, like a child will. Your resume will never give you grandchildren, like your children might. Your resume will never share in all your joys, all your sorrows, all your triumphs, all your tragedies, like your husband will.
But you WILL be able to rape that resume of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS over your lifetime. Yay!
The fastest growing consumer product category: scented candles. SCENTED FUCKING CANDLES.
Yes, 26 year old woman, all your education and opportunity and rights have resulted in millions of children raised without fathers, the total destruction of the family, the rise of GIANT ASS government to give all those wymyns a place to work (doing utterly useless shit) and what was it for? What did we gain?
SCENTED FUCKING CANDLES!!
Nicely done, ladies. Really good job.
Fuck you, bitch. My daughters are coming for you. And millions of daughters just like mine. We see you, you superficial piece of trash. You have cost us our lives. For patchouli candles.
You will pay.
Go back and read @26 year old woman’s comment, then read Andie’s again. Quite a contrast, wouldn’t you say?
I should note that when Price first posted the quote, he evidently left out the last few paragraphs; perhaps even he realized they were a tad over the line as a response to a woman whose only real “crime” was telling the Spearheaders that her life was interesting and fulfilling to her, and that she wasn’t planning on having any babies in the foreseeable future. (And if they didn’t approve of her life, too fucking bad for them.)
In the comments to Price’s “Comment of the Week” post, HL offers this thought:
Every time something like this comes up, it becomes ever more apparent that the ignorance, hate mongering, bigotry and fallacies rests so much more heavily on the side of the feminists.
To paraphrase Rick James, lack of self-awareness is a hell of a drug.
So many capital letters!
yes peter-andrew: nolan(c), how is your plot to poison school-age girls going?
ALL CAPS MAKE ME SOUND REASONABLE! FUCK THE NONBELIEVERS!
Well, duh, it’s a binding contract.
david, quick put the fringed flag back up. if he posts again afterwards you can cast a binding spell on him and steal all his troy gold
PETER-ANDREW: NOLAN(c)
If I understand correctly, now I have a binding contract with him. I must rush down to the county recorder’s office to file this legally effective document of LAW.
For some reason, this is my favorite part (p. 6):
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT GERMANS HERE OBVIOUSLY, GERMANS WHO HAPPEN TO BE GERMANS IN GERMANY. I DON’T EVEN READ GERMAN, OKAY?
The ebook’s (*snort*) links to the crimesagainstfathers forum don’t seem to go to specific pages (I only tried one), but it sure is quite the cesspit of totally not hatred of women. Here’s one thread in which a woman who says wife abusers should go to jail is accused of misandry:
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums2/tabid/369/forumid/232/threadid/1775/scope/posts/Default.aspx
It’s nice to know what passes for a man-hating screed these days.
yeah, no the county record’s office is an artifact of the illegal corporate government and has no effect on a sovereign citizen like p-a: n(c). you need convene a common law court to consider the validity of the contract.
I wish every book started out by pointing out what language it’s in and why there are books, and what advantages books have over video.
It’s important not to assume any premise at all. What if someone got something wrong? Like, what if a mangina read my book and then was like “right on!” but then I pointed out “no, this book is not for manginas, manginas are attacked within its pages, I find manginas disgusting as I pointed out on pages 1-85 and 97, please see the index for more”?
It would just be a waste of my time!
Which is why we have writing like P___don(c)’s.
Oops, I started reading the free e-book but soon found this:
I had to stop reading because I don’t have 1000 troy ounces of gold to pay the legal fees that I might incur from reading while being a woman.
ahahahahahahahaha
in appendix 7 he claims this cost him 300,000 euro to make
It cost him that much to make? Even though its free I wouldn’t read it.
Too bad its not considered a public service to pour that much dribble over the internet eh?
I need to see the “man-hating womens forum” for Canada. I would love to make some new friends.
He recommends young men talk to their fathers and get them to send their money to p-a:n(c), p. 27.
I hope someone videotaped those conversations.
I love how he uses his copyright acronym, TBT, in sentences. Also:
Are we sure P___don(c) isn’t Dwight Schrute?
i love how he talks about legalese but then he pulls this shit where he just throws a bunch of legal terms together in a sentence as if it means something
Oh the wild dogs thing has come up before, but I can’t remember the thread. He also gave a speech once when he was a child, that was so eloquent that they created a holiday in his honor or something.
I’m listening to one of his videos, and here are more TRUE FACTS from p-a:n(c):
“When you’re born a berth certificate is created, that’s b-e-r-t-h because they treat you like a ship, a vessel.”
He’s quite the etymologist.
LAWyers “practice” law, and Family LAW is actually Family Legislation!
This guy’s a troy ounce of gold a minute, I tell ya.
Peter-Andrew Nolan (copyrighted fool).
How about you debate the FACTS presented in The Truth Be Told openly in public. Or are you too gutless to do that?
Ooh…the dreaded “double-dog dare”. If he doesn’t pipe to your tune, and immediately jump to do your bidding he’s a gutless coward.
Let me guess, there haven’t been too many downloads of the free book (must suck to discover you can’t even give it away), and you want to drum up business.
Good luck with that.
So much legally binding truth-knowledge being dropped on us!!!
@Sharculese – I’m not sure I understand why you think the man’s post is “hilarious”. It sounds like someone caught in a legal system he doesn’t understand, and that isn’t designed for him to understand.
The MRA has a really good point to make when critiquing family law. Too often, in a divorce, children are alienated from their fathers. Dads are important, and most kids love their fathers. It’s hard for kids to only see Daddy on the weekends and for alternate holidays. Very heartbreaking for every one involved.
I would guess that Peter went through something similar. He is probably in a lot of pain if he is being denied daily access to his children.
Isn’t it a kind of reverse sexism to think that men should just be able to deal with separation from their children? Why can’t we conceive of men as creatures who are every bit as invested in their children as women are? Whose hearts break when they look into the bedroom and see an empty bed, the Snoopy jammies neatly folded waiting for the weekend?
I have to say, I have enormous sympathy for men who are separated from their children through divorce. I think of my husband and his love for our children and I can literally NOT imagine what he would have to do before I would take our children from him. He loves them more than his life. Thank god I adore my husband and this is not an issue I anticipate facing.
Seriously, though. I know this website loves to mock the things men say in anger, but sometimes that anger comes from a place of deep and abiding despair. There is nothing worse than losing your children.
It’s not different for men. They love the same.
@charlottecollins
See you only guess that he has been through that you don’t actually know.
“Seriously, though. I know this website loves to mock the things men say in anger, but sometimes that anger comes from a place of deep and abiding despair. There is nothing worse than losing your children.”
I refuse to entertain that lie. MRAs are not put upon innocents. They are abusers who lost complete control of some of their victims. Fathers who are not abusers get shared and joint custody most of the time. Even abusers frequently get shared and joint custody too frequently, because the courts are happy to demonize women at all times. To lose access to your kids invariably means that the man in question did something horrible. The men on MRA forums confess to abuse of women and children all the time.