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The cold hard truth about loose vaginas

Over on Reddit, an MRA named AryoBarzan sets the feminist slut ladies straight on the BIOTRUTH about their ever-growing and FAR less pleasurable vaginas. (Ignore the rude person replying to his message; clearly Aryo is the real penis and vagina expert here.)

 

 

Wait, you say to yourself, how is it that this bold truth-teller is being downvoted, on Reddit? He posted in the antimensrights subreddit, that’s why. In the Men’s Rights subreddit he normally gets the upvotes he so richly deserves.

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Manjaw the Mighty
12 years ago

All those years of sending food down my esophagus have loosened it to the point where I can now swallow whole chickens! SCIENCE.

Non-Amazons CAN’T swallow whole chickens…? Not even dead ones?

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
12 years ago

the standard and ideal vagina for these men is not the one that is actually prepared for sexual activity & that a woman whose body shows signs of sexual arousal can’t possibly be anything but a used up whore

O_o What a very unpleasant worldview. Bleh.

True story: my mom had a uterine prolapse, which is essentially the vaginal walls collapsing under the weight of the uterus, when I was around 20. To avoid ever going through that myself, I’ve been doing kegels pretty much non-stop ever since. Vag of STEEL, I tell you.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
12 years ago

Ah, good old EvoPsych Biotruth.

I read some comment of hers in which she begins, without a hint of sarcasm or irony, “If we look at this from an Evo-Psych perspective…”

Fembot
Fembot
12 years ago

GWW is a total hypocrite, condeming the very same social forces that have given her the freedom to be a single mother with a nontraditional appearance. She reaps the rewards of feminism while badmouthing the movement without even a hint of self-awareness.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

@Seraph

Only one was noticeably tighter than the others, and that was not a good thing. She was so tense that we needed several attempts and lots of lube to achieve PIV without some major discomfort. Anyone who considers that a plus is not interested in their partner’s pleasure.

Yeah, you’ve described probably the majority of my PIV experiences >.> and it is really fucking annoying to have a boyfriend(!!) say to you, as a compliment, “oh baby, you know I like how tight you are.” Oh yeah, me too! All the chronic pain and missed classes and work and constant doctor’s appointments and invasive physiotherapy are totally worth it if it makes sex more fun for you! e_e

CassandraSays
12 years ago

@ Viscaria

Ugh. That level of insensitivity is grounds to dump someone imo.

indifferentsky
12 years ago

Men (people I guess) talking about loose vaginas = me no likey.

GirlWritesWhat. What is her deal?

So one of these days I’m going to wake up, sit in my chair, log on to manboobz and fall out of my chair because David has posted a gilrwritescrap entry. 🙂

I get waaay too excited about posts on my faves.
Now off to chat with my bff.

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

I’d read girlwriteswhat if she wrote, but I have a rule about not watching MRA videos and I don’t break it for no one.

Fembot
Fembot
12 years ago

@Cliff

That is a very smart rule. I wish I could stop, but it’s like crack. My husband may have to stage an intervention soon : D

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

@Cassandra, that was actually pretty low on the “Reasons Why You Should Leave This Person Immediately” list. Luckily, current boyfriend is much more understanding. 🙂

Fembot
Fembot
12 years ago

“Why are so many MRAs and Fem-RAs so in love with the sound of their own voice?”

Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

*I am not attempting to diagnose any one particular individual via teh internets.

cloudiah
12 years ago

@Fembot 🙂

Seraph
Seraph
12 years ago

Ugh. That level of insensitivity is grounds to dump someone imo.

I don’t want to give Viscaria any advice without more information, but on a more general level, I can’t help but wonder something.

I’m reminded of a post Cliff made on hir blog, about how in hir youth zie thought that “harder” was just a general word of encouragement for a male sex partner. That lasted until the encounter where zie kept telling hir partner “Harder, harder!” until he finally said “I can’t do it any harder!”

I wonder how many guys out there, soaked in the same porn culture as the rest of us, just think that some variation of “Oh, baby, you’re so tight, you feel so good” is just a standard compliment you should pay to a female partner (flip side of the coin of “too much sex = dirty = loose”, I suppose).

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

Wow.

http://owningyourshit.blogspot.com/2012/03/transcript-of-men-not-marrying-how-deep.html

Laugh a minute (I assume—I’ve only read part of the transcript, and it doesn’t have time markers).

And oddly enough, no one, least of all women, seem to really give a shit what MEN desire in a partner. Why can’t men just be happy with what’s available? Well, let’s look at what’s available to the *average* man in his 30s: a 35 year old woman who hollers yes over the jangling of her biological clock while unable to keep the grimace from her face because he’s a bigger loser than the 5 guys she dumped in her 20s and now she has to settle, a divorcee who’s already financially annihilated and emotionally crippled at least one man, and a single mother who’s collecting reams of child support from one poor schmuck while her other baby daddy manages to duck his obligations because he’s a drug dealer and his income’s off the books.

And yes, I’m exaggerating, but you see my point.

No shit, and I don’t!

And when I consider how vulnerable so many men were to those kinds of shaming tactics, vulnerable enough to enlist in a war that killed 10 million to preserve their manhood in the eyes of women they’d never met, I simply can’t believe that it’s only the risks of marriage, as onerous as they are, that have rendered men impervious to the kinds of shaming tactics employed by traditionalists and feminists who seem increasingly desperate to strong-arm men into their old roles.

I lol’d.

A recent examination from Heartiste said a very great deal, and with some serious literary flair (pearls of wisdom from that pit of social nihilism that is the pick-up artist community).

A good indication that she doesn’t have much of value to say on this topic, or, rather, that she is determined to say non-valuable things, and that you can stop reading: that first clause.

Shame on you, GirlWritesWhat, you gave Jean-Luc Picard a death wish.

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

All three of those women who don’t give a shit what MEN want in a partner–sounds like their main sins were being involved with men before. That they hadn’t kept themselves pristine just to create a dating pool for 30something men.

But surely MRAs aren’t telling 20-year-olds not to date, because in MRAland that’s the only brief window between “illegal” and “wizened crone.”

I guess a certain proportion of 20-year-old women should be saving themselves for ten years just so 30-year-old men have a zero-baggage dating pool? Will we have to assign which 20-year-olds do that by lottery or something?

Man, this not oppressing men stuff is tough.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
12 years ago

Just in case anyone cares the loose women reference is from an era when upper class women wore corsets and prostituted women did not.
I was young the first time I read that reference and assumed they had escaped from confinement and were become roving marauders.

Cliff Pervocracy
12 years ago

All three of those women who don’t give a shit what MEN want in a partner–sounds like their main sins were being involved with men before. That they hadn’t kept themselves pristine just to create a dating pool for 30something men.

But surely MRAs aren’t telling 20-year-olds not to date, because in MRA-land that’s the only brief window between “illegal” and “wizened crone.”

I guess a certain proportion of 20-year-old women should be saving themselves for ten years just so 30-year-old men have a zero-baggage dating pool? Will we have to assign which 20-year-olds do that by lottery or something?

Man, this not oppressing men stuff is tough.

CassandraSays
12 years ago

“And yes, I’m exaggerating, but you see my point.”

OK, so, why are you exaggerating? Maybe because reality does not support the argument you’re making?

Reality has a feminist bias.

Jessay (@jessay)
12 years ago

They seem to find female arousal not just irrelevant but actively off-putting. Which is pretty upsetting in its implications.

Well, remember, women shouldn’t have the right to choose a partner they like, but pick partners based on their standards. People like this really don’t think women should be happy in any way. It’s all about pleasing their man who makes no effort to please them in return…. hrmm… wonder why these dudes are so desperate and lonely.

Jessay, the STD thing is even a myth, weirdly enough. Promiscuous people practice much safer sex, so much so that they are statistically less likely to have STDs. The people who are mostly likely to have and spread STDs are the people who are sure they don’t really need condoms because they and their partners aren’t promiscuous.

Oh, don’t get me wrong, I totally get that people who are promiscuous can wind up with no stds or babies, whereas a first timer can get them. I’m not positive about promiscuous people practicing safer sex, it’s definitely a case by case basis thing. I wouldn’t ever assume that anyone was ever safe to be with without condoms until the paperwork clearing them was in front of my face. But I understand the concern of std risk in general. But the worry can be easily cleared up with some testing and a little patience.

Oh my, gww is so annoying and completely offbase. She thinks that women are upset that men they aren’t attracted to find them attractive, and not that they treat the women like they OWE them sex for happening to be attractive. It’s not that this guy noticed me and thought I was hot, it’s actions such as:
Catcalling
Making raunchy statements before we’ve even exchanged names
Grabbing
Not taking, “sorry, not interested,” for an answer
Insulting the woman for not being interested
Completely ignoring body language and social cues in regards to how to interact with a person
And, ffs, rape and sexual assault, obviously.

Do I want to imagine a man I’m not interested in jerking off to me? Of course not, so I don’t. That’s not the fucking problem though, is it? When we talk about objectification we’re literally talking about men not caring how something they do makes a woman feel because they view them as nothing more than a glorified sex toy. And clearly that mentality runs rampant amongst these men based on all this talk that suggests they have never actually had sex with a woman who was ready.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
12 years ago

I especially like the “5 guys she dumped in her 20s” detail.

There’s so much wrapped up in that, I can’t even.

Jessay (@jessay)
12 years ago

All three of those women who don’t give a shit what MEN want in a partner–sounds like their main sins were being involved with men before. That they hadn’t kept themselves pristine just to create a dating pool for 30something men.

For real. And isn’t she a single mother with a boyfriend? What the hell does she have to get on her high horse about? Oh, because she believes in men’s rights all her other sins against manhood are to be forgiven?

Her hatred of herself and her own gender is so transparent, it’s depressing. I feel bad for her daughter and son who she uses gendered insults against to motivate, basically teaching both of them that women are horrible.

M Dubz
12 years ago

Re: Theory about misogynists preferring non-aroused women. I’m sorry, but I don’t see how that’s not just incredibly unpleasant for both parties. Isn’t there like, mad friction for the dude too? After all, this guy seems not to be so enamored of it:

M Dubz
12 years ago

Well, let’s look at what’s available to the *average* man in his 30s…

Bah. When I was 23, I was turned down by a guy who was 33 at the time, because he had just gotten involved with another 33 year old. They are currently awesome and happy together, despite her “advanced age” (No seriously, she is awesome and I am happy that they are a couple). There are more things in heaven and on earth than are dream’t of in MRA philosophy.