Many of those in the manosphere wear their misogyny like a badge of honor. Others like to present themselves as fierce opponents of bigotry, and angrily deny the charges of misogyny thrown their way. When the Southern Poverty Law Center ran an article noting the misogyny often found on A Voice for Men, for example, site founder Paul Elam responded with great indignation in an open letter to the group:
Yesterday I received the unfortunate news that your organization … listed my website, avoiceformen.com, among others, as misogynistic, or “woman-hating. … Contrary to what readers of your site may be led to believe, the goals of SPLC and AVfM are quite similar: We both work to identify groups who seek to oppress others, and inform the public of the inequities they would perpetuate.
This seems a strange argument for the man whose handle on YouTube is “The Happy Misogynist,” and who regularly writes posts filled with hair-curling hatred of women. It seems even stranger when you consider AVFM’s support of a site that frankly peddles hate – against women, “manginas,” gay men, lesbian, and trans folk.
I’m talking about the misleadingly named Artistry Against Misandry site. AAM and AVFM seem almost joined at the hip. AAM’s founder, musician Jade Michael, wrote and performed the theme song currently used on AVFM’s internet “radio show.” AVFM has returned the favor, promoting the site and helping raise money for it. Indeed, several days ago Elam himself proudly announced that he’d sent along $100 of his own money to help Michael fund an upcoming event.
The site describes itself as follows:
Welcome to the first pro-male artist activist network. Within these pages you will find music, poetry, prose, graphics, cartoons and additional links, all of which are here to bring attention to and counter misandry in Western society.
In practice, this means saying the worst shit about women you can possibly imagine. Oh, the “artists” also say terrible things about men who don’t hate women with fervor — you may recall the ridiculous caricature of me as a self-flagellating, woman-worshipping “mangina” at the end of this post from a couple of days ago.
But the “artists” whose work is featured on the site focus most of their venom on women. Let’s take a look at several graphics from Reality, one of the site’s most prolific contributors.
Yep, that’s right: “western women” are “the new tapeworm parasites.” Here are a couple more.
There are (literally) forty more where those came from, and they’re pretty much all as nasty and hateful as the ones I’ve featured here. I suggest you visit AAM’s graphic art page and scroll through the rest of Reality’s wares.
If you don’t have the patience for that, and since the app they use on AAM to display Reality’s artwork is a piece of crap, I’m just going to highlight some more of his clever anti-misandry slogans here in text form:
Women actually expect you to act like a traditional male. While they live like psychotic whores. Keep dreaming, bitch!
Guys, do you really want to know what she’s thinking? 100% pure shit.
[Picture of women pointing at the camera.] We get everything and do nothing for it. Now get back to work slave.. we can put you in jail or bankrupt you with just a pointed finger.
Remember, when a woman tells you she’s tired it’s the only time she’s actually telling you the truth because…being a raging petty psychotic bitch…while being virtually retarded…while having endless banal thoughts she considers “genius…” while making insane and constant ultimatums…IS absolutely EXHAUSTING!!
Meanwhile, an artist calling himself “Andy Man” declares in a graphic of his own:
This is the sort of “artistry” that A Voice for Men is actively supporting.
And they wonder why some might consider them part of a hate movement?
Artistry Against Misandry also features music, videos, and even poetry, all of it awful, in every sense of the word. I will take a look at some of this in future posts.
EDIT: I added one more Reality graphic and a bunch of his slogans in text form.
Who btw I can’t scroll past without hearing Monster Mash in my head. Damn you, earworms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada_during_the_First_World_War
Yes that was Atlas, and it was more like 50.
What I mean is that it was under no danger of being invaded. When someone says people died defending their homeland, I tend to assume that they mean from an invading army.
Argenti Aertheri, you are most welcome to use my logic. It would be wonderful if it would help someone be at peace with this very difficult issue.
Dunno. I suspect it has to do with loyalty to the British Empire, something like that.
Thank you for the translation, google wasn’t helping anymore than my Latin background did. (It says something like “died for the country to” per google translate)
I did find this — which might explain the illogical French.
CassandraSays — American’s like to think the USA was in danger, or more precisely, that any war American fight in is “defending the homeland” — this might be why the Korean War is also called the forgotten war though, we were clearly not at direct risk. Pearl Harbor is widely considered to have been a precursor to actual invasion, proof that Japan could invade, and would if we didn’t stop them (either that or it was allowed to happen as an excuse to get involved in the war, depends who you ask). The cold war? Defending against “the communist threat”! We always get bent out of shape that “our way of life” is under attack (ergo why we’re in the middle of … 3? wars in the middle east) — Vietnam is also considered to have been “defending the homeland” despite what nonsense that claim is. Sickeningly, it’s almost like the war had to be threatening “our way of life” for the deaths to “count” >.<
The twilight level light kind of makes sense, winter in the new england states looks like that for most of the day for fucking months (at least while it's snowing anyways) — I think it's meant to give the piece a sense of atmosphere, in the art sense that means emotion, not atmosphere. The outlining on the dog and the (I assume) veteran really don’t help it any though, but it’d get a decent grade for an introductory level course, and calling it a “piece” like it’s real art feels odd.
extraterrestrial biological entity princess — thank you, I think I’m just going to copy and paste your entire 3rd point then.
It does indeed, and it’s used as such in the opening line of the Marseillaise: “Allons, enfants de la patrie/Le jour de gloire est arrivé” (“Forward, children of the fatherland/The day of glory has arrived”).
What confuses me about it is the fact that women in the Canadian Forces have had full access to combat roles since 1989, and Canada doesn’t have enforced conscription.
nwoslave gives us his best thoughts: “I mean for real equality, shouldn’t there be equal propaganda going both ways? Maybe a little erection monologues?”
Another piece of the puzzle! On NWO’s planet, there are no books/plays/movies/TV shows/etc. where men talk about their sex lives. I’m almost tempted to move there, so I’d never have to read Portnoy’s Complaint.
…though “homeland” is probably a better translation now, given the Third Reich associations that “Fatherland” brings now. Although ‘patrie’ obviously adds a paternal dimension.
Well we do have this kind of monument (monument aux morts) in every village and city (it says “for those who died for the motherland”). Do they have the same in Canada?
Anyway it makes no sense since the man is way too young to have fought in any world war. And it he fought another war, why not symbolize this one. It looks like the ‘artist’ googled something like “war monument”.
Homeland/fatherland/motherland, is there a difference in meaning?
The phrase “Aux morts de la patrie” literally means “For those who died for the fatherland” – it’s a war memorial to all the French people who died in WWI and WWII. It’s a completely unexceptional phrase that I imagine was copied word for word from an actual French war memorial. Here’s a real-life example.
The cartoon is actually making a perfectly valid point about the way people who fight for a country are often the most seriously neglected in peacetime (similar points are made regularly about the treatment of Vietnam and Iraq vets) – but it’s a point that applies to anyone in that position: pretending that this is an exclusively male thing is simply wrongheaded. For starters, while far fewer women died in combat in WWI, hundreds of thousands if not millions involuntarily became single mothers as a direct result, and I doubt their lives were much easier.
Not really, and I suspect it may well derive from the fact that a lot of European languages are explicitly gendered in a way that English isn’t. The French and Germans prefer “fatherland”, while Russians prefer “motherland”.
How many times can they claim they’re just against feminists when almost all these graphics are specifically directed at women in general?
Also, my ex tells me that the way I set up the apartment we shared makes him feel incredibly comfortable, like home. I believe that’s the opposite of cold buddy.
And I don’t understand how they can make that one about a woman getting an abortion to be able to bar hop with a straight face while simultaneously trying to alevieate men of all parental responsibility of a living child if they don’t want to be a dad.
http://qkme.me/3ph8q8
Here’s another easy question, if your father just jerked off instead of having had sex with your mother, would you be dead? Or what if another sperm had won? What if they had used birth control? What if she had misscarried? OMG THERE ARE ENDLESS WHAT IFS AND NONE OF THEM CHANGE WHAT IS!
Cloudiah! Jesus’s Son!! Love that book!
I get erection monologues every time I go to the bar, or go out in general. I had a “southern gentlemen” insinuate that me, my three girlfriends, he, and his brother, were going to create our own skinemax movie two nights ago while we were just trying to indulge in some buffalo tenders at an all night diner after a night of being shamelessly creeped on (omfg misandry) by another guy there who jumped from woman to woman, trying to find anyone who would go home with him, and trying to impress us by telling us that this local band gets back to him on facebook after a day or so when he messages them. haha. Those, my friends, are erection monologues. They aren’t really optional like plays are, unless you consider never leaving your house as an option.
And NWO doesn’t even need to dress up as a woman to sample some erection monologues – all he has to do is post in an explicitly misogynist forum under a clearly female username. He won’t do it, of course, but I think we all know what the result would be.
Aw sweet, I got a hamster!
@ Kyrie
I was going to say, my granddad fought in WW2, and if he was alive today he’d be…85 or so? I think adding all the bits together we once again have “we hunted the mammoth for you”, ie. anything that a man ever did that was admirable means that any MRA now essentially did the same thing. Don’t think granddad would appreciate his sacrifice being appropriated in the service of a bunch of dudes who want to take away the right of women (including his wife and daughters) to vote.
I never paid attention in big cities, but in small villages like mine, you will have all the name of the dead soldiers written on the side of the monument.
And if you want an example of war where the women stay “comfortable” at home while the men bravely fight, there is no worse choice that WWII in France. There were more civilians than soldiers death, and women fought in the Resistance, and everybody suffered the German Occupation. So there were probably more dead men than women, but that’s far from WWI’s results.
And ffs, women didn’t chose not to go on the front line. They were prevented in doing so. By men.
“And I don’t understand how they can make that one about a woman getting an abortion to be able to bar hop” — which doesn’t exactly happen often, if at all — “with a straight face while simultaneously trying to alevieate men of all parental responsibility of a living child if they don’t want to be a dad.” — which does happen
It’s simpler than that even — if you’d been aborted you’d never have been born. Which does not equate with dead, as your examples show.
“all he has to do is post in an explicitly misogynist forum under a clearly female username.” — nawh, most any general forum will do, he could try a gaming forum for example
It’s also worth noting that women (or at least women over 30, initially) were given the vote in Britain for the first time in 1918, not because of the suffragette campaigns, but because they’d demonstrated beyond any possible doubt the value of their contribution at a time when the country faced an existential threat. Because of the unprecedented demands that WWI placed on manpower, the country had to be run in the men’s absence by women taking on traditional “male” roles – and of course proving that they were more than capable, to an extent that the government couldn’t ignore. (They also couldn’t ignore the fact that WWI left them with a severe and ongoing manpower shortage).
Come WWII, the British government openly exploited this by advertising for women to abandon their dull secretarial posts and enrol in factories making Spitfire components. Here’s an example from 1942:
Kyrie — I really don’t think they get that the reason women have traditionally been not on the front lines was because, if they could avoid such conflict, then they should be tending to the children to ensure the defending population actually survives — which is a great big patriarchal mess that feminists actually do not support. And that when staying home tending the children wasn’t safe, eg WWII in France, the women did fight. Then again, you usually don’t need a draft when your actual place of residence is actually under attack (versus going off to fight a war elsewhere).
Women weren’t drafted because someone needs to care for the children not because women aren’t willing to die for the countries — plenty have once the war comes to them >.<
CassandraSays — the youngest WWII veterans will be 83 this year, most are closer to 90. The ones turning 83 are the ones who turned 16 the last year of the war, so there are a lot less of them than veterans slightly older than them.
I can’t actually remember what year my granddad was born. I think my math may be off though, since he was older than granny and my mum was born in 44.